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    I am sure a lot of us have met fans like that; I personally have met a few. Like everything that gets stereotyped, it gives "normal ish" fans a bad image. People tend to perceive every anime fan the same, as cosplaying pokemon ( whatever your generic choice of anime) watching anime nuts (Generally anyways)

    I dont go to anime conventions. I think 98% of cosplay is terrible (Only if the chick is hot, or if they can pull off the character) I don't use Japanese words in my sentences. I don't hang out with others to watch anime. I just like watching anime.

    If you do stuff like that then, good for you. I don't like being grouped together as a single entity. Most times I mention anime here, I get the same retarded look from people.

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    Japanese getting the last laugh

    Of course Sushi's not a bad word. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
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    Haha nice. It's cool how they were making fun of their own culture a little to make fun of us. XD
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    Only time I ever use another language in my speech is when I don't know what it would translate to in english or its a curse. I curse in so many languages all day and people don't know what the hell I am saying.

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    That is so damn true. One already crosses the line by randomly throwing japanese words in their sentences but when one really goes overboard is when they start calling each other -Kun or -San and all that other suffix shit japanese use.

    I enjoy watching anime like the rest of you but there's no way I'm that obsessed. I wonder why people actually take pride in being called Otaku.

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    Originally posted by: Deblas
    I wonder why people actually take pride in being called Otaku.
    Because, in general, most people are stupid. Or 'mentally challenged' to be politically correct. Ahh, fuck it, they're all morons.

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    Originally posted by: Psyke
    Japanese getting the last laugh

    Of course Sushi's not a bad word. [img][/img]
    Hahaha. Now THAT was funny. I gotta show my friends this.

    Though I gotta throw in some trivia here: "Tempura" isn't a Japanese word. The dish is Portuguese I think, and was eaten during Lent.

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    Originally posted by: Deblas
    That is so damn true. One already crosses the line by randomly throwing japanese words in their sentences but when one really goes overboard is when they start calling each other -Kun or -San and all that other suffix shit japanese use.

    I enjoy watching anime like the rest of you but there's no way I'm that obsessed. I wonder why people actually take pride in being called Otaku.
    Don't get me started on that, most of those guys have no idea how to use the honorific titles. Most of them are commiting "yobisute" and if they ever do go to japen they would be beaten by alot of people. I've told everyone what they mean before i think but in case you missed it here it is again

    Originally posted by: Deadfire
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    i just wanna ask, what does kun,chan means! they added this word after the names, like naruto-kun
    It's a part of their langange it's marking their position compared to the speaker

    Correct use of titles is considered very important in Japan. Calling somebody by just their name, without adding a title, is called yobisute literally "call and throw away", and is considered very bad manners unless the person has given you permission.

    Although titles are usually added to names, there are some exceptions. They are not usually used when talking about a family member, or another member of one's "in-group", to someone from outside the group. Inside a group such as a company, the members use titles such as san towards each other. However, when talking to people from outside their company, they do not use the titles when referring to each other. This applies even to superiors. For example, the receptionist, when talking to the company president, will certainly use a title such as shachM or Maeda-sama. However, when referring to the president when talking to outsiders, the same receptionist will simply refer to Maeda, without any title. Honorific titles are also usually dropped when referring to historical figures, although awarded titles, such as military titles, are sometimes used.

    San

    San is the most common honorific title, used when addressing most social outsiders, for example, non-family members. San is used unless the addressee's status warrants one of the other terms mentioned below.

    San is often translated as "Mr.", "Ms.", "Mrs.", and the like. San may also be used in combination with things other than the name of the person being addressed. For example, a bookseller might be addressed as honya-san "Mr. Bookseller", and a butcher as nikuya-san "Ms. Butcher".

    San is also used when talking about entities such as companies. For example, the offices or shop of a company called Kojima denki might be referred to as "Kojima Denki-san" by another nearby company. This may be seen on the small maps often used in phone books and business cards in Japan, where the names of surrounding companies are written using san.

    San is also applied to some kinds of foods. For example, fish used for cooking are sometimes referred to as sakana-san. It is also sometimes applied to animals - a rabbit might be usagi-san.

    Both san and its more formal equivalent, sama, imply a kind of familiarity. In formal speech, the title shi may be preferred.

    Kun

    Kun is an informal and intimate honorific primarily used for males. It is used by superiors in addressing inferiors, by males of roughly the same age and status in addressing each other, and in addressing male children. In business settings young women may also be addressed as kun by older male superiors.

    Schoolteachers typically address male students using kun, while female students are addressed as san or chan. The use of kun to address male children is similar to san when addressing the boy's parents. Not using kun would be considered rude, but, like san for one's own family, kun is traditionally not used when addressing one's own children.

    In the Diet of Japan, diet members and ministers are called kun by the chairpersons. For example, Junichiro Koizumi is called "Koizumi Jun'ichirM-kun". The only exception is that when Takako Doi was the chairperson of the lower house, she used the san title.

    Chan

    Chan is the informal, intimate, diminutive equivalent of san, used to refer to children and female family members, close friends and lovers. Chan is also used for adults as a title of affection. For example, Arnold Schwarzenegger gained the nickname Shuwa chan in Japanese. Similar to kun, chan is not necessarily optional when referring to the female children of others, and it is often avoided when referring to one's own children.

    Chan is sometimes applied to male children if the name does not fit with the kun suffix. For example, a boy called "Tetsuya" will be nicknamed "Tetchan" rather than "Tekkun" for reasons more to do with phonetics than anything else.

    Although it is usually said that honorifics are not applied to oneself, some women refer to themselves in the third person using chan. For example, a young woman named Maki might call herself Maki-chan rather than using a first person pronoun like watashi. Chan is also used for pets and animals, such as usagi-chan.

    In the same way that chan is a version of san, there is also chama from sama, typically used for an older person. Non-standard variations of chan include chin (a“, chin?), and tan (_“, tan?).


    Senpai and kMhai

    Senpai is used by students to refer to or address senior students in an academic or other learning environment, or in athletics and sports clubs, and also in business settings to refer to those in more senior positions. KMhai is the reverse of this. It is used to refer to or address juniors.

    Sensei

    Sensei is used to refer to or address teachers, practitioners of a profession such as doctors and lawyers, politicians, and other authority figures. It is used to show respect to someone who has achieved a certain level of mastery in an art form or some other skill. For example, Japanese manga fans refer to manga artists using the term sensei, as in Takahashi sensei for manga artist Rumiko Takahashi; the term is used similarly by fans of other creative professionals such as novelists, musicians, and artists. It is also a common martial arts title when referring to the instructor.

    Sensei can also be using fawningly, as evinced by adherents in addressing or talking about charismatic business, political, and religious leaders (especially unordained ones). Japanese speakers will also use the term sarcastically to ridicule overblown or fawning adulation, and the Japanese media frequently invoke it (rendered in katakana, akin to scare quotes or italics in English) to highlight the megalomania of those who allow themselves to be sycophantically addressed with the term.


    Sama

    Sama is the formal version of san. This honorific is used primarily in addressing persons much higher in rank than oneself, and in commercial and business settings to address and refer to customers. It also forms parts of set phrases such as okyaku-sama (customer) or omachidM-sama ("I am sorry to keep you waiting"). Sama also follows the addressee's name on postal packages and letters.

    Sama is also often used for people considered to have some high ability or be particularly attractive. If a young man is considered particularly handsome, he might be referred to as Tanaka-sama rather than Tanaka-san by his female admirers. For example, Leonardo DiCaprio has gained the nickname Leo-sama in Japan.

    Sama is also used in an arrogant context, as in the arrogant male pronoun ore-sama, "my esteemed self", meaning "I".

    Shi

    Shi is used in formal writing, and sometimes in very polite speech, for referring to a person who is unfamiliar to the speaker, typically a person who the speaker has never met. For example, the shi title is common in the speech of newsreaders. It is preferred in legal documents, academic journals, and certain other formal written styles because of the familiarity which "san" or "sama" imply. Once a person's name has been used with shi, the person can be referred to with shi alone, without the name, as long as there is only one person being referred to.
    I may know the langange enough to get by with it, but it bugs me to no end when people speaking in half english not only are you a disgrace to yourself, but a reject of the culture you are trying to follow. I will note I've never spoken the langange well, but i know what some things mean as well and I can read it well.
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    I never quite realized just why otakus are so frowned upon until I watched Densha Otoko.
    They really are quite pathetic creatures.
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    Originally posted by: Psyke
    Japanese getting the last laugh

    Of course Sushi's not a bad word. [img][/img]
    ROTFLMAO. That was great.

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    Okay. I had to register JUST to reply to this thread. I myself am Japanese. I HATE it when my friends use (butcher really) the Japanese language. I don't even work japanese into my sentances, I find it rediculous, and downright annoying. I see people around campus that cosplay on a daily basis, and really, do we of japan cosplay american cartoon characters? (I certainly hope not &gt;.&gt; ) I mean, COME ON. Get a life. These are kids shows, and you're what, 30 something years old, still living at home, grease stains on your naruto t-shirt (that, by the way, is now 40 sizes to small...fatass). Otaku give anime fans a bad name. My knowegde of anime is mainly the ghibli stuff, naruto, FMA, and the slayers. Thats pretty much it. Not fanatical stuff from me. Though if you look at my "Friends", they are all pretty into it, and I'm not too sure why O_o.Sure, there are shows out there that are really good, but you'd never EVER catch me cosplaying (maybe for Firefly BUT THAT IS IT...browncoats forever! &gt;.&gt; ), let alone letting it get in the way of my social life. Hell, Fan girls throw themselves at my JUST because I'm japanese, so it's difficult for me to find a meaningful relationship (current GF has NO IDEA what anime is thank GOD). Lets put it this way, If I liked otaku, I wouldn't have nice furniture made out of their skins and bones adorning my sitting room.

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    Originally posted by: Lithos of Shiva
    Okay. I had to register JUST to reply to this thread. I myself am Japanese. I HATE it when my friends use (butcher really) the Japanese language. I don't even work japanese into my sentances, I find it rediculous, and downright annoying. I see people around campus that cosplay on a daily basis, and really, do we of japan cosplay american cartoon characters? (I certainly hope not &gt;.&gt; ) I mean, COME ON. Get a life. These are kids shows, and you're what, 30 something years old, still living at home, grease stains on your naruto t-shirt (that, by the way, is now 40 sizes to small...fatass). Otaku give anime fans a bad name. My knowegde of anime is mainly the ghibli stuff, naruto, FMA, and the slayers. Thats pretty much it. Not fanatical stuff from me. Though if you look at my "Friends", they are all pretty into it, and I'm not too sure why O_o.Sure, there are shows out there that are really good, but you'd never EVER catch me cosplaying (maybe for Firefly BUT THAT IS IT...browncoats forever! &gt;.&gt; ), let alone letting it get in the way of my social life. Hell, Fan girls throw themselves at my JUST because I'm japanese, so it's difficult for me to find a meaningful relationship (current GF has NO IDEA what anime is thank GOD). Lets put it this way, If I liked otaku, I wouldn't have nice furniture made out of their skins and bones adorning my sitting room.
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    Originally posted by: Lithos of Shiva
    I myself am Japanese.... Lets put it this way, If I liked otaku, I wouldn't have nice furniture made out of their skins and bones adorning my sitting room.
    I seriously wish there were more Japanese people around where I live, just so I could see the "Otakus" slaughtered and made into couchs and ottomans. That would be justice, I think.

    But jokes aside, in a classroom setting it's hard to get things done and actually learn the Japanese language when people are screaming about how "Kawaii" stuff is. It's just annoying.

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    Haha, Lithos that was a pretty good first post. Welcome to the forums. I'm glad we've coaxed another lurker into posting. I'd argue that otaku are similar to anyone else who becomes obsessed with something. When a single obsession is consuming your life to that extent, it's not healthy at all. And then everyone around that person becomes annoyed because all they ever talk about is the thing they're obsessed with. Some obsessions are just more culturally acceptable than others and thus don't stand out as much.

    I was a bit taken aback by the DDR part though. Since DDR is one of my favourite games ever, I dislike it being portrayed so negatively. It really is an awesome party game and as it becomes more mainstream, less people know if its asian origins. They just love it because it's fun.

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    I HATE it when my friends use (butcher really) the Japanese language
    I know exactly how you feel. Although I'm not Japanese, but French. Its incredibly anoying when people try to speak some french to seem smart or elegant, but just end up sounding like idiots. God, the number of times that people, after realizing that I have a french name go "Parlez vous francais?", but say it with such a terrible english accent that it makes me want to strangle puppies. Or all those french expressions people seem to enoy using, like "deja vu" which means "already seen", but everyone says it as if it was "deja vous" which makes absolutely no sense since it means "already you". It also pisses me off in all the movies when they have a supposedly french character that speaks alot of french, but to an actual french speaker it sounds so horrible we'd rather hear nails scratching a chalkboard.

    Oh, and all the people (usually art students) that wear berets also annoy me. You're not French, so stop wearing berets! In fact even in France virtually no-one wears them. Why? Because we realized that they look stupid so we stopped. I mean, if your gona copy something from another culture, at least copy something good, like our cooking. It'd be as If someone wanted to copy Americans but rather than take freedom of speech they copy the high crime rate.

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    "* Take note I don't personally agree with the last line. * "

    agreed [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

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    Originally posted by: Mr Squiggles
    I HATE it when my friends use (butcher really) the Japanese language
    I know exactly how you feel. Although I'm not Japanese, but French. Its incredibly anoying when people try to speak some french to seem smart or elegant, but just end up sounding like idiots. God, the number of times that people, after realizing that I have a french name go "Parlez vous francais?", but say it with such a terrible english accent that it makes me want to strangle puppies. Or all those french expressions people seem to enoy using, like "deja vu" which means "already seen", but everyone says it as if it was "deja vous" which makes absolutely no sense since it means "already you". It also pisses me off in all the movies when they have a supposedly french character that speaks alot of french, but to an actual french speaker it sounds so horrible we'd rather hear nails scratching a chalkboard.

    Oh, and all the people (usually art students) that wear berets also annoy me. You're not French, so stop wearing berets! In fact even in France virtually no-one wears them. Why? Because we realized that they look stupid so we stopped. I mean, if your gona copy something from another culture, at least copy something good, like our cooking. It'd be as If someone wanted to copy Americans but rather than take freedom of speech they copy the high crime rate.

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    Poirot hates being called a Frenchman though, because everyone assumes he's French when in actuality he's Belgian. Don't be ashamed of liking murder mysteries! Agatha Christie is a genious. I love all the Poirot books.

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    Funny how whenever a francophone person is renowned and famous, it's automatically assumed he must be French. *flexes*

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    I never quite realized just why otakus are so frowned upon until I watched Densha Otoko.
    Me too. It's the most ridiculous fantasy show I've ever wasted my time on. Although I must say, without otakus to bleed their wallets on toys and other anime paraphernalia, who's going to contribute to the GDP of the country?
    Probably it's the international otaku community keeping the world's 2nd largest economy afloat. haha

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