Sarutobi vs. Itachi

[darkmetal505]

Did anyone see Sarutobi scared shitless when Oro almost summoned the fourth?

Did God#2 just pull bs out of his butt? No he wasnt scared shitless, all he said was that three of them would be troublesome and if Oro had pulled out the 4th, he wouldve been very hard to defeat.

poopdeville is corrent, IMO, that Oro went all out. First it would be troublesome summoning Manda on a giant building, and he couldnt because he had the barrier surrounding them, which would stirctly inhibit Manda's movements. If he had Manda summoned, Sarutobi could have run away or something. Oro wanted to make sure no one interferred and he wanted to kill the 3rd at all costs. Also Edo Tensei is a forbidden jutsu, showing Oro was intent on slaying the old man.

You are forgetting that the 3rd has a buttload of experience, probably 3 times the amount of Itachi. Im sure he has a way of countering Sharingan, and Im sure he would know about Mangekyou and its abilities.

However, the 3rd was/is (in this case) very old, which might prove to be his demise.

[Zidarri the Exile]

I don't think he was scared, but definitly shocked.


Orochimaru said Itachi is stronger than him. He said it. That is the main reason I believe Itachi could kill Sandaime.

Itachi probably coulda have been the Godaime, or 6th*Rokudaime????*

I know Kakashi is no match for Orochimaru, Itachi, or Sandaime, but still, it took only a second to make Kakashi immobile. If it wasn't for Mite Gai, Kakashi, Kurenai, and Asume would be dead. And thanks to Itachi not wanting to use to much of his chakra.

I still think Itachi woulda have killed Sandaime easier then Orochimaru did, as he said that Itachi was stronger then himself.

[darkmetal505]

I don't think he was scared, but definitly shocked.


Orochimaru said Itachi is stronger than him. He said it. That is the main reason I believe Itachi could kill Sandaime.

Itachi probably coulda have been the Godaime, or 6th*Rokudaime????*

I know Kakashi is no match for Orochimaru, Itachi, or Sandaime, but still, it took only a second to make Kakashi immobile. If it wasn't for Mite Gai, Kakashi, Kurenai, and Asume would be dead. And thanks to Itachi not wanting to use to much of his chakra.

I still think Itachi woulda have killed Sandaime easier then Orochimaru did, as he said that Itachi was stronger then himself.

Well most people stopped using that argument because of the circle. Oro said Itachi is stronger than him, Itachi said that Jiraya is stronger than him, and Oro is stronger than Jiraya.

They wouldnt have made him the 6th because he had too many bad motives (the reason Oro didnt become the 4th). You are forgetting that Kakashi wasnt ready that time, he said so himself.

[Zidarri the Exile]

I am not forgetting anything.

And no, Itachi never said Jiraiya was stronger than himself, just that they would recieve unnecessary injuries if they fought him head on like that. Itachi wouldn't be able to use his abilities that much because of the fact they were in the hall.

Jiraiya, Orochimaru, Tsunade, are all Kage level, and Oro is the strongest, and he said Itachi is stronger than him.

Thus, Itachi is stronger than Sandaime, because Orochimaru is stronger than Sandaime, and Itachi is stronger than Orochimaru.

Jiraiya would lose, one on one against Itachi. Sharingan is truely amazing. It can copy every jutsu as long as it's not a keikei genkai*sp* , and Itachi's chakra has to be huge, as he used Tsukuyomi when he was only 13/14, and Mangekyou.

Itachi is one of the strongest shinobi we've encountered so far, in the anime and manga, both. Only person who I think is stronger would be Sasori of the Red Sand.

Jiraiya, Orochimaru, Sandaime. None of them of a Bloodline limit, and Itachi has one of the stronger ones. Even without the Sharingan, Itachi is still a genius ninja.

I meant Itachi had the ability to become a Hokage before he killed the Uchiha clan. He was a chuunin at 6, a ANBU Squad Leader at 10? Or was it twelve? Itachi also probably has more then Kakashi's 1000 jutsu's copied.

If we had more knowledge on how strong Sandaime was, I am sure I could deduct a better fight, but as it is, Itachi wins.

[darkmetal505]

no Itachi told Kisame that if they both attacked Jiraya, they might kill him, but they would die in the process. Why else did he run away?

[Zidarri the Exile]

No, I will copy his exact words, by DB Translation.


"No, Kisame. If we fight him head on, we will recieve unnecessary injuries."

He also said the same thing to Kisame when Kisame was about to attack Gai.

[Gen]

Also, Sandaime had to handle a very well orchestrated surprise attack and oro still only won the fight by the skin of his teeth. Oro of been stronger and Itachi may be stronger them him but strengh is only part of the equation. Sharingan isnt invincible and i think Sarutobi's experience would help him come out on top.

[Zidarri the Exile]

Sarutobi had to use his best jutsu just to hurt Orochimaru, you call that by the skin of his teeth? No, in the overveiw, Orchimaru won quite easily. If Itachi is stronger than Orochimaru, Itachi woulda have what . . . Lost just his hands?

[poopdeville]

You're just an Itachi fanboy. In a fight, the winner is the person who best uses his strengths to attack the enemy's weaknesses. This is specifically why Orochimaru is afraid of Itachi. He knows he can't counter Tsukuyomi. It is obvious that Sarutobi could counter Tsukuyomi, since he killed the first two Hokage without using his eyes. Just because Orochimaru would lose to Itachi doesn't mean Sarutobi would too. Different people have different strengths and weaknesses.

Indeed, Sarutobi's greatest weakness was that he didn't have as much chakra as he used to. So Orochimaru summoned the Hokage to tire him. In the end, it worked. But just barely. Itachi doesn't know Edo Tensei, so he wouldn't be able to exploit that (relative) weakness.

[Zidarri the Exile]

I actually don't really like Itachi. He's a pimp and all, but yeah. I completely understand what you are saying, but Sandaime had more weaknesses than Itachi does.


Sandaime would need his eyes at some point, and I doubt Itachi would use Tsukuyomi unless he was 100% sure it would work, as it takes a lot out of him.

Itachi's only weakness is that he uses way to much Chakra way to fast. But if he just used his Sharingan to predict Sarutobi's movments, and use speed that even Kakashi's Sharingan can't keep up with, he would then corner Sarutobi with jutsu's he's copied, and use Mangekyou, or Tsukuyomi, when Sandaime was tired out, from his old age lacking chakra.

Overall, even with Itachi's youth, he is stronger than the late Sandaime Hokage-sama.

[kaigan]

Seeing as the Third is dead...Itachi.

Wrong again. Sarutobi would come back in spirit form and F*** Itachi and everyone up. NOOB!

PS: This post is 100% serious

[Zidarri the Exile]

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You call someone else a noob when you post like a noob yourself. Wow.

I don't think they have 'spirit' forms on Naruto.

[poopdeville]

I actually don't really like Itachi. He's a pimp and all, but yeah. I completely understand what you are saying, but Sandaime had more weaknesses than Itachi does.


Sandaime would need his eyes at some point, and I doubt Itachi would use Tsukuyomi unless he was 100% sure it would work, as it takes a lot out of him.

Itachi's only weakness is that he uses way to much Chakra way to fast. But if he just used his Sharingan to predict Sarutobi's movments, and use speed that even Kakashi's Sharingan can't keep up with, he would then corner Sarutobi with jutsu's he's copied, and use Mangekyou, or Tsukuyomi, when Sandaime was tired out, from his old age lacking chakra.

Overall, even with Itachi's youth, he is stronger than the late Sandaime Hokage-sama.

Okay, I'm still not sure the old fart would lose, but you're making a lot of sense.

[Naruto_RNG]

@Zidarri the Exile
did u missed the part after itachi said to kisame "No, Kisame. If we fight him head on, we will recieve unnecessary injuries."
watch it again, he himself said they would either die or if they kill him they die as well.
people are saying that they haven't seen itachi full strenght, if that's true then the only time we saw sandaime fight was him against Oro and he died after that. your comapring two hokages against one an easy fight? how do u know how fast sandaime was? he was fast enough to catch two hokages in total darkness.
Itachi can't keep up MS forever and we saw sandaime fight in total darkness, so tsukuyomi is already out of question.
Itachi is decade too late to reach sandaime's lvl. Unless he know that Edo Tensei then he is no match for sandiame.

[David Craft]

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You call someone else a noob when you post like a noob yourself. Wow.

I don't think they have 'spirit' forms on Naruto.

sorry for reviving an old topic... just had to bring this up.. in the latest filler there is a freaken "spirit" form stupid fillers... sigh...


anyways I think we dont know enough about itachi... but from what iv seen, it would be a hell of a fight. I do NOT think that having a blood line gives you the win... any one that does is missing one of the Main points of Naruto. Go back to the Neji - Naruto battle lol.

blood line limits are awsome but are not all powerful. Itachi's Mangeku (sp?) is one of teh most awsome effects of a Blood Line Limit but it is not unbeatable. The 3rd is the "professor" and is thus smart enough to possibly figure out how to beat it.

In teh end if the 3rd was young, he would win... the current (before dieing) 3rd... now that would be a hard battle....