No, he was clearly lying. Remember, there were over 40 survivors or something like that initially. Methinks this is an allusion to the "cover up" that Oceanic or whoever wants the returnees to throw out there. This might have something to do with Abbadon or whoever that guy is, or the Widmore group. There's a lot we don't know about the circumstances surrounding their return.
I know they were lying, but that's still two other people besides the oceanic 6 that "survived" the plane crash. Why not just say "hey only us 6 survived"? He said eight for some reason, so maybe he was thinking of Walt and Michael or in their made up story those 2 had to die somehow before they oceanic 6 got rescued; so I'm wondering if they are thinking of two people in particular.Originally Posted by rockmanj
He could be talking about Aaron and Ben. Ben is somehow on the other side, exploiting or working with Sayid. He might have escaped with them. It also could explain sort of how Jack is a borderline alcoholic and very angsty and pissed off, something might have happened with Miles and Ben to cause Jack to never want to go to the island again, and ditch everyone.
Kate didn't seem to want any mention of Aaron in the courtroom, and Aaron technically wasn't on the flight when the plane crashed. So that might have been what caused Kate to freak out.
So we have: Hugo, Kate, Sayid, Jack (Possibly Aaron, Walt, Michael) for Oceanic Six. I highly doubt that Michael and Walt are revealed to the public at all, or else the people who came to the island would have mentioned it by now. I'm pretty sure Sawyer stays, and I doubt both Jin and Sun will go. Though it -is- possible, Jin will prolly die or something rather than them both escaping. That would just be crazy if Locke ended up going.
If he ends up going, which I doubt, but it would be awesome if he does, then the people would basically have no leader, good or bad. Then Sawyer would probably ended leading, haha that sounds fun. I'm pretty sure Kate would be with Sawyer if he was on the other side though.
"Leaving hell is not the same as entering it." - Tierce Japhrimel
Locke has lost his faith about the island before - it could happen again. Especially since he's going through much doubt and uncertainty right now. I wouldn't be that surprised if he left.
I think I know precisely what I mean
when I say it's a schpadoinkle day
I really can't see Locke leaving, even if his faith in the island is wavering; just due to the simple speculation that if he ever leaves...he wouldn't be able to walk; which is something that disturbs him above all else. He's actually pretty similar to Sawyer. Neither of them have any thing away from the island (we can throw Ben in there too). I'm gonna go ahead and throw the Kwons out there...and maybe Jin dies or something. I don't know why I feel that, but it seems like it coming.
I've had that feeling about Jin since season 1, but the fucker keeps surviving... I've pretty much given up on him dying. Now that I said that, the show will probably kill him just to prove me wrong.
I've also always expected him to die, he just has that kind of martyr feel to him somehow, like he'd jump in front of a bullet for Sun or something. Maybe he still will.
I think I know precisely what I mean
when I say it's a schpadoinkle day
Coming back to Clair, I think the show just wants us to think she's dead. It's possible Clair asked Kate to take Aaron for hope of a better life, because she couldn't go. (No room on the helicopter or somthing? idk)
Or Kate stole him. XD!!
"Leaving hell is not the same as entering it." - Tierce Japhrimel
I don't think Jack would let that fly (stealing babies and such). But I think something happens to Claire. But something weird....Why isnt she a wreck? I mean, Charlie died like a day before, and she's going along like everything is peachy. Nobody notices that? She's lost her precious "Chaalee", and is just whatever. What a stone hearted bitch!
As I said before....
nobody is supposed to raise aaron except for claire. There's been at least 3 episodes dedicated to the foreshadowing of something horrible happening if they were seperated.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Yes we all know this. And something horrible seems to have indeed happened for them to be seperated. The question is... -what- happened?
About Clair's reaction: I know she got amnesia, but did she ever get her full memories back? Because before, Clair and that other guy were getting busy in love and what not, and then when she lost her memories it seems he just became her bitch. D:
"Leaving hell is not the same as entering it." - Tierce Japhrimel
Yeah...I noticed that too...she never seemed quite the same...
I just figured it was because once she remembered everything, she sort of became a combination of the before and after.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
WOW...the last episode was mind-blowing (literally and figuratively). I can't say enough good things about it. But now we know that there's some sort of weird E-M thing going on for sure, and apparently it allows your consciousness to time travel...or something. Well, I don't get it now, but anyways, great f---n episode!!
Um, well. I wasn't expecting this. Who remembers all the other times Desmond seemed to have issues with time? Because I know this wasn't the only time. I'm sort of speechless. That was awesome.
That crosses out the multiple dimension theory..
The sad thing is this isn't the first time they've done something blatantly supernatural. Just the first time I've really noticed it. D:
I completely forgot about Desmond too, when I was thinking of Oceanic six. He should make it out too. Unless he dies. .................................................. ......
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"Leaving hell is not the same as entering it." - Tierce Japhrimel
It's weird, because every other time Desmond has time-jumped he remembers everyone and they don't remember him. Like that time he saw Charlie busking.
Great ep - I love story lines that involve doing things in the past that effect the future. Interesting also was the time difference - while it seemed like over a day on the island it may have been less than an hour in the real world.
The phone conversation at the end was really emotional. Desmond is such a great character.
I think I know precisely what I mean
when I say it's a schpadoinkle day
I'd have to say he's my favorite 'Lostie" (Sayid and Assertn...err Sawyer are tied for 2nd). And I think the reason that his time jumping became so severe is that, for some reason leaving the island unwound him, and that "condition" began to deteriorate. I guess he won't be having anymore of those pesky flashbacks now. But I wonder; who's the ship's captain, and who is Ben's inside man? If it's Michael, I'm gonna be pissed, since that would be so obvious.
I like Sawyer, Sayid, Jin before he started learning English, Desmond, and that's it.
Can anyone recall the other flashbacks that Desmond had? All I remember is the one where he went to visit Charlie, and all the other ones, like him being in the army and talking to the dad were the typical Lost flashbacks
"Leaving hell is not the same as entering it." - Tierce Japhrimel
It only happened once before.....as a transition between when the bunker exploded and him lying in the forest naked.
He was back in time and was sharing a place with Penny, then when he went to buy her a ring, the woman started talking to him about time travel...or something?
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Oh yeah! She was like YOU WILL BREAK UP WITH PENNY LOLZ!! Or something like that. She was scary. I think she was apart of some group. Dunno.
I don't remember the forest/bunker one though.
"Leaving hell is not the same as entering it." - Tierce Japhrimel
Desmond was the one who detonated the bunker. Then Charlie found him in the next season just standing in the forest naked.
I have a feeling Desmond won't be one of the oceanic 6....of course he wasn't on the plane to begin with, but he had stated much earlier in the series that he had a book that he didn't want to read until he was going to die. Because of this, I expect at some point we will witness him in an inescapable situation, reading that book.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
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