Not Zarek, not possible.He's a sidekick playing the internal political ideological clusterfuck. He done his time.
Gaeda ? What about Dee, the comm officer gal.
Not Zarek, not possible.He's a sidekick playing the internal political ideological clusterfuck. He done his time.
Gaeda ? What about Dee, the comm officer gal.
it's going to be one of the bigger characters in the show. remember d'anna's reaction when she saw who it was? my money's on roslin, bill adama, or lee. it could be zach too, though i'm pretty sure d'anna doesn't know who he is. it may also be admiral cain, the former admiral of the pegasus. that'd be quite a twist.
I think Gaeta, Zarek, or Dee would be a good choice. Im not sure if you know about any of the recent press, but there was a promo photo taken with Roslin, Adama, and Lee in it, and apparently the producer of the show said that no one in that photo is the final Cylon. Also, it was said that the Final Cylon (whom ill call FC). Also, the FC (according to the producers or whatever) is someone that isn't dead (which eliminates Ellen Tigh; my original 1st choice)Originally Posted by saman
Lee would be hard to explain as the FC, due to him having a father that raised him from birth, and there's only one skinjob left, so it wouldn't make sense that they're both cylon agents (unless we get crazy, and think they're the same cylon, only aged more). Roslin, I don't agree with because she's always sick with cancer, and like I stated earlier, like Lee and Bill, was said (by virtue of the photo) not to be the FC. And also, the Last models of the cylons aren't able to be reproduced (or so I have read), so it shouldn't be a character that has already died.
Now, the reason I think Gaeta is because, for one, all of the other 4(?) were involved in the insurgency (if you remember, he was their inside man); and in this role he was quite instrumental, as he gave information on the cylons activities to the resistance. The other reason I think it could be him, is because of his relationship with Baltar. Gaius seems to be sort of close with the Cylons for some reason, and not only that he's sort of an authority on cylon physiology (remember the detector that they made?) Maybe he's still playing the role of "inside man" even now. And of course, since he helped develop the cylon detector, it would make sense that it wouldn't pick up himself, or the other cylons aboard the Galactia. So, IMO that puts him in excellent position to be the FC. Although not my only pick, I'd say he's my best bet.
I'll post later on why I think it could be one of the others...but for now; this picture shows a sketch of the final 5: http://media.battlestarwiki.org/imag...FFSketches.jpg
what do you all think of that?
Last edited by rockmanj; Sun, 04-06-2008 at 10:45 PM.
Alot of what you said makes sense, but just a few things i wanna point out. for one, the cylon detector did work...it picked up boomer as a cylon but baltar just lied about it, so the whole fleet thought it was a failure. second, if gaeta is the final cylon, he wouldn't be aware of it rite now (or at the very least, wasn't aware of it at the time he helped with the cylon detector), so theres no way he could've programmed an 'immunity' for himself and other cylons.
As for the 'final 5 can't ressurect' thing, where did you hear that? so far it hasn't been mentioned in the show at all, has it?
Well hotlinking failed my friend but I managed to see what you were talking about
http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Image:FFSketches.jpg
Well for me that sketches excludes Gaeta, and the second to left guy's haircut really makes me wonder who it can be. I mean, V shaped hair coming to the forehead ?
But remember, Gaeta is a specialist in like Biogenetic engineering, plus its beed shown that he's quite adept at using computer systems; I think he could have easily planted some sort of program in there to shield himself and/or the others. And I never said it didnt work, due to Gaius, like everyone in the fleet besides Doc Coddle thought it was a crock.
as for your other concern:
from:http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Final_five#_note-2As the Seven do not hold (or appear to desire) knowledge of the Five, and with their special nature, their ability to resurrect and the existence of multiple copies for any of the Five are uncertain based on aired events and official responses.[3] This failure to recognize could be due to a mental block programmed into their minds or simply because the Final Five left the Cylon homeworld before the Seven were created.
I should have said that 'its not likely that they can resurrect', but I am sure that Ronald D Moore said that the FC was someone that is alive now, and that they have left clues along the way to his/her's existence. And as for the photo...hmm Tyrol kind of has a V shaped hairline...and I think if the fc isn't gaeta, then its most likely a woman.
hmm, i can't say i knew that. it's interesting news. roslin's cancer does complicate the her-being-final-cylon theory. although, ignoring your news for a second, i'm having a hard time discounting lee from being a cylon just because he has a dad. i'm sure the rest of the final five all had parents too. or think they did. false memories, maybe?
about the ressurection topic, as it makes sense to me, the final five can be ressurected, but this is only their first life, so they haven't ressurected yet, which is why no one knows who they are yet. a theory that has its' holes, i know: when they die, what would they ressurect into if no one knows who they're supposed to be and so haven't made copies for them?
another question to ponder is, if the final cylon is on galactica, then why didn't they hear the music and meet up with the other four at the end of season 3?
there's this:
http://io9.com/340986/secrets-of-bat...d-in-new-photo
And also...
Well, the thing with Lee is, that Bill knows that's his son; I mean he wasnt the greatest father in the world, but he was around when Lee grew up. Although you do raise an interesting point; if you remember the conversation Lee and Bill had; Lee raised the possibility of his brother being a cylon, and asking if that were the case, would he be loved any less.
And resurrection has many limits, one of them being distance. If one of them dies, there has to be a resurrection ship within fairly close proximity; otherwise, they won't be brought back to life.
I guess now would be a good time to pose another question...Based on what we know, the cylons have placed 5 additional long term sleepers in the human civilization, in varying roles. The four we know of are a high ranking military officer (Tigh), a politician (Tory), Chief Petty officer on the BSG (if he's not there, those raptors arent flying [Tyrol]) and a rank and file soldier (Anders). Assuming that the five should have fairly different jobs and backgrounds, what isn't represented there? Maybe it is indeed another person in the military (which would make sense too), but maybe its someone who's position is quite different (not sure if that makes much sense).
Interesting Rockmanj
What about Cottle ? The 'Doc ?
Who would be in better position to fuck things up, I mean the old can " Sabotage " the president if he wants to.
Yea, I also think that's a good guess. He's also a character with kind of a fuzzy background, plus he's pretty eccentric (he chain smokes cigars!). But I don't know..it wouldn't really be all that shocking if it turned out that he was the FC; I'm thinking the writers might pick a character that would have a bigger "wow" factor once revealed.
Last edited by rockmanj; Mon, 04-07-2008 at 08:32 AM.
She saw one of the five, maybe not the final cylon. I figured her saying sorry to the one she saw was Tigh because of the whole eye deal.
Cottle is a good guess but I agree that he wouldn't be shocking enough just because he isn't a big player, but then again there are only so many options and with this kind of a wait we are over analyzing each, so the revelation might not be as amazing as we hope it to be. In fact I'd be really surprised if the Final Cylon revelation is as much of a wow moment as the other 4.
Episode 2 is on and ...
Lots of Cylon Plot Uncovering
Enjoy
i loved starbuck in this ep....she was awesome. odama as well. him and starbuck's little chat in that cell was wicked.
as for the cylons, what can i say...they're become more and more human with all this arguing and betrayal....and now the centurians (atleast those two) have free will...wonder if that'll stay that way.
But why did the rest of them try and run when they were getting shot? they'll just ressurect in the next room anyway. still, this is getting really interesting.
Well if all Centurions have free will and shares consciousness there is a good chance that the models that wanted the raiders lobotomized are going to be ... spawncamped.
http://www.tvsquad.com/2008/04/03/ex...info-revealed/
some tidbits about the Caprica spin-off
Oh, and I have a new candidate for the FC...Romo Lampkin. What do you all think about that?
Last edited by rockmanj; Tue, 04-15-2008 at 09:33 AM.
who the hell is Romo Lampkin?
Baltar's Lawyer (the real one, not Lee).
Yea, the guy that defended Baltar; he was also a student of Bill Adama's father; who we have found out was one of the parties instrumental to building the Cylons. I say this because he's quite a mysterious character, and it seems that he's not really all that old; yet he's been around for a while it seems. Another guy on a fourm that I visit has a similar theory (but his is kinda...iffy) ...but now that I see this stuff about the Caprica series, I'm starting to doubt things a bit, especially with this Zoe-A through Q business.
when did we find out anythign about bill adama other then that he was a lawyer...i dont recall anyhting about him helping with the cylons (within the context of BSG i mean).
Is this all from the Caprica interview thing? and if so, lets keep that info out of this thread. Make a new thread for it if you like.
Understood. FYI, that's not really an interview, but a casting sheet for the show; When more info comes out, I'll make a separate thread^^. Actually, one thing I noticed about the last episode that I kinda thought was...quirky was the whole "let's whore out Tory" plan. She went along with that surprisingly easily. Not quite sure how I felt about that (or how lame Baltar was trying to pick her up).
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