Sasori vs Oro

[elmojo]

lol

oro hands down, he's a sannin his body replacement techniques are absoluletely perfect, he can summon a huge snake that can take care of sasori's army

orichimaru is the ultimate villian

[Hakeem_21]

Nah Itachi is cause he is stronger [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

[Assertn]

Orochimaru will never summon mando again after the last incident. Mando's probably so pissed that he'll eat oro the second he appears.

Who cares if he's a sannin? Since when was sannin > akatsuki? I would expect at least 1/3rd of the akatsuki members to be on par with oro.
And as I said before, his replacement technique is only useful if he can survive the fight to replace his body later.

[Death13a]

I would go with Oro because he won't engage in fight except if he really wants something or he has around 70% of winning. I would say if he fought sasori on 1 vs1 it would be 50/50 as they know how each fights. And sasori true form i bet isn't known to Oro. Sasori weaknesses can only be exploited by puppet user. So Oro could only overpower Sasori and thats why kubuto had to have 1st strick to uneven the score. Kubuto adds to Oro's victory about 5% as his medical jutsus would be inaffective against a puppet nor he could get close to sasori to attack as he would run out of chakra quickly healling posion. which leaves Oro with long range attacks and puppets of his own.

[Assertn]

Originally posted by: Death13a
I would go with Oro because he won't engage in fight except if he really wants something or he has around 70% of winning. I would say if he fought sasori on 1 vs1 it would be 50/50 as they know how each fights. And sasori true form i bet isn't known to Oro. Sasori weaknesses can only be exploited by puppet user. So Oro could only overpower Sasori and thats why kubuto had to have 1st strick to uneven the score. Kubuto adds to Oro's victory about 5% as his medical jutsus would be inaffective against a puppet nor he could get close to sasori to attack as he would run out of chakra quickly healling posion. which leaves Oro with long range attacks and puppets of his own.

So you're saying sasori would have the upper hand, although the matchup is even, yet oro would probably win.

wow, that's a record number of contradictions you have there

[RasenDori]

well heres how i think the fight would go. first off orochimaru and sasori (with hiruko) will exchange blows but none of them will connect. finally oro would pull out the kusanagi blade and destroy hiruko, so sasori would uses sandaime kazekage. oro would summon a generic large snake to ride upon and try to stay at a safe distance attacking with jutsus, but the snake would eventually fall to sandaimes traps, but oro would use that moment to destroy sandaime. so now they pull out the big guns. 100 puppets vs manda. which would again be evenly match ending with most of sasoris puppets being destroyed and manda retreating. at this point oro would be be tired but sasori having a puppet body wouldnt fall to the flaws of being organic. sasori pwns oro and adds him to his collection. but im just biased... kugutsu no jutsu is badass.

even if you consider kabutos assitence with medical ninjutsu and fighting, sasori most likely doesnt travel without deidara.. and well... deidara would own kabuto

[LobsterMagnet]

Everyone seems to forget that Sasori had at least 250+ other puppets which he probably kept with him on scrolls. Thats a bitch load of unique weapons and I bet he had different puppets to counter different situations. Dammit makes me even angrier that Sasori had to die premarturely I don't think we saw enough about him to justify killing him off. We never learnt his backstory or saw any of his more interesting puppets. I hope kishimoto can revive him with dues-ex-machina-no-justsu. Another interesting thing to consider is that Sasori was not so much defeated as much as he let himself be killed. Chiyo mentioned that he could have avoided the final blow but choose not to.

Keep in mind Sasori also had henchmen as well. Only difference is that we never got to see what they could do. Ultimately I see sasori as the winner simply because he dosen't have the biological limitations as Orchimaro. I mean technically he's a cyborg right? Meaning he dosen't suffer from fatigue. Plus all of his tecniques are carried out mechanically by using the chakra strings, he really dosen't need to put any of his chakra into his tecniques he simply carries them out by operating the puppets. Sasori's whole fighting style is compltetly unconvention since everything he does has been previously manufactured by himself as opposed to aquired. Dammit human puppets just kick ass so that's why I think he'd probably win. Besides he is the legendary Sasori of the red sands. Since he's got a title that means he's easily on par with the sannin or of the same calibur.

Don't estimate diadara I think that we really haven't seen everything that he is capable of. Reason why he respects sasori more is that my guess is unlike diedara who most likely has a blood line limit everything that sasori does has been made by hand and constructed by his own intellect as opposed to relying on skill. In the greatest sense sasori is a genius artists more so then a skilled fighter. Sasori was like the lex luthor of naruto literally compating his opponents with the machiniations of his mind.

[Assertn]

sasori has 298 puppets, to be exact
and we've only seen 102 of them (103 if he counts himself)

[kAi]

I like how Kabuto follows people of simliar traits.

Sasori made people into puppets and could steal their techniques.
Orochimaru makes people into his body (into a puppet of sought) and steals their techniques.

[Yezsyr]

Originally posted by: LobsterMagnet
Everyone seems to forget that Sasori had at least 250+ other puppets which he probably kept with him on scrolls. Thats a bitch load of unique weapons and I bet he had different puppets to counter different situations. Dammit makes me even angrier that Sasori had to die premarturely I don't think we saw enough about him to justify killing him off. We never learnt his backstory or saw any of his more interesting puppets. I hope kishimoto can revive him with dues-ex-machina-no-justsu. Another interesting thing to consider is that Sasori was not so much defeated as much as he let himself be killed. Chiyo mentioned that he could have avoided the final blow but choose not to.

You speak of these other puppets like they would make a difference. We all know that the Kazakage and his Legion of 100 were his "most prized" and "most powerful" puppets. The others would be jutsu fodder for Orochimaru, who has spent FIFTY years collecting and creating some the most powerful jutsus in the world. If we look at his skill and pursuits, his technique list must be like an advanced Kakashi. Its that SOME that makes him want the Sharingan, so he'll collect much faster.

Keep in mind Sasori also had henchmen as well. Only difference is that we never got to see what they could do. Ultimately I see sasori as the winner simply because he dosen't have the biological limitations as Orchimaro. I mean technically he's a cyborg right? Meaning he dosen't suffer from fatigue. Plus all of his tecniques are carried out mechanically by using the chakra strings, he really dosen't need to put any of his chakra into his tecniques he simply carries them out by operating the puppets. Sasori's whole fighting style is compltetly unconvention since everything he does has been previously manufactured by himself as opposed to aquired. Dammit human puppets just kick ass so that's why I think he'd probably win. Besides he is the legendary Sasori of the red sands. Since he's got a title that means he's easily on par with the sannin or of the same calibur.

What do henchmen have to do with anything. Orochimaru has a nation and an army, and a bitch on par with Kakashi. And "Biological limitations?" Orochimaru owns death. He can leave bodies behind, for stronger bodies AND take whatever abilities that body had. He resurrected two of the strongest ninjas that ever lived by sacrificing two weak genin. He took punches from Tsunade (I don't care rusty she was; she punched down a castle and lifted a katana the height of a three story building. I, again, wouldn't worry about chakra with Oro because he again, summoned the first two hokages with ease. And your Title Argument blows. Naruto had the title of the #1 Hyperactive Screwup of Konoha, there by Naruto pwns all. Ok. we'll subscribe to the Title idea. As far as I've seen in recent history, Konoha>>Suna. They've won the wars, they've had the size, strength, and authority. So to be the would be successor to one of the Greatest Konoha has known, to be the Strongest of the Sannin, a group of ninjas that was the MOST fear three man team in history. (In their primes, they were, and are Kage level.) And for him to still be fighting like he's in his prime, due to his disregard of biological limitations, Sasori would have his hands full. True that Sasori may be the strongest the Sand has ever seen, but the Sands strongest hasnt always been the Creme a la Creme, so to speak. IE the Sand's 5th Kazekage is 15 and Mental. Ok formerly mental.

Don't estimate diadara I think that we really haven't seen everything that he is capable of. Reason why he respects sasori more is that my guess is unlike diedara who most likely has a blood line limit everything that sasori does has been made by hand and constructed by his own intellect as opposed to relying on skill. In the greatest sense sasori is a genius artists more so then a skilled fighter. Sasori was like the lex luthor of naruto literally compating his opponents with the machiniations of his mind.

..? Ok, I think you're trying to say that Sasori's skill with his self crafted puppets garners him the repect of his peirs. Granted. I will put that one notch lower than the combined ability to resurrect anyone, and put your soul in anyone else's body, an ability I might add that Orochimaru created himself.

[Sapphire]

Originally posted by: Yezsyr

You speak of these other puppets like they would make a difference. We all know that the Kazakage and his Legion of 100 were his "most prized" and "most powerful" puppets. The others would be jutsu fodder for Orochimaru, who has spent FIFTY years collecting and creating some the most powerful jutsus in the world. I

OFF TOPIC but Orochimaru is 54.. I'd say he spent 20 years..

[heero]

I still want to think that sasori would win but Im sure Oro and Kabuto combined can beat him because why would they set up a trap for him in the recent manga if they arent sure they would win.

[Jedi Guardian]

If this has already been mentioned, then I'm sorry; but I believe Oro would've won, hands down. Here's why:

The Yodaime Hokage--The Fourth. I honestly don't believe Sasori had the ability to stop a summoning of that sort. His methods are just too direct. And, I feel confident that The Fourth would school Sasori.

Then again, I really don't think it'd come to that. Orochimaru would probably just take out all of Sasori's puppets with that snake hands technique he just pulled out against Yamamoto.

[PSJ]

Originally posted by: LobsterMagnet
Need I remind you that sasori made a fucking puppet out of the third hokage of the sand, the supposedly best hokage, plus he's got the whole 100 puppet technique going for him so my money would be on sasori.

He also got his ass handed to him by an old hag and a kid.

Orochimaru all the way.

[heero]

Originally posted by: PSJ

Originally posted by: LobsterMagnet
Need I remind you that sasori made a fucking puppet out of the third hokage of the sand, the supposedly best hokage, plus he's got the whole 100 puppet technique going for him so my money would be on sasori.

He also got his ass handed to him by an old hag and a kid.

Orochimaru all the way.

xcept oro also got owned by an old hag and lost 2 arms

[darkmetal505]

Originally posted by: heero

Originally posted by: PSJ

Originally posted by: LobsterMagnet
Need I remind you that sasori made a fucking puppet out of the third hokage of the sand, the supposedly best hokage, plus he's got the whole 100 puppet technique going for him so my money would be on sasori.

He also got his ass handed to him by an old hag and a kid.

Orochimaru all the way.

xcept oro also got owned by an old hag and lost 2 arms

oro got owned by the 3rd (i dont know if thats who you are refering to), but he would win because his fetish for small boys would allow him power over all. Also, it seems he has better fighting techniques, like the above statements.

[Divinity]

Too bad Naruto will own them all because he is the hero.

[Strider]

I would say Orochimaru.

It is obvious Orochimaru was planning to fight his former partner, Sasori. And, Orochimaru doesn't strike me as a person to engage in battle without having weighed a number of the options or solutions to winning.

Granted, Orochimaru is not puppet master, like Chiyo. They were paired together for who knows how long. In those years, I'm sure Orochimaru became aware of his battle style. Didn't Orochimaru also help in bringing down the Third Kazekage?

Orochimaru uses those Mud Clones as much as Naruto with his Shadow Clones, for the case of one of the puppets getting harming Orochimaru. Plus, I still hold Kabuto in higher regards in terms of medical abilities over Sakura, to cure the two of them of some of those ailments, albeit temporary depending on the complexity of some of the poisons.

Having a hundred puppets isn't that special, when we saw them taken down by a fraction of that number. While not possible, a summoning of either the Shodai or Nidaime would take care of Sasori.

Orochimaru for the win.

[ChaosK]

Originally posted by: Jedi Guardian
If this has already been mentioned, then I'm sorry; but I believe Oro would've won, hands down. Here's why:

The Yodaime Hokage--The Fourth. I honestly don't believe Sasori had the ability to stop a summoning of that sort. His methods are just too direct. And, I feel confident that The Fourth would school Sasori.

Then again, I really don't think it'd come to that. Orochimaru would probably just take out all of Sasori's puppets with that snake hands technique he just pulled out against Yamamoto.

good point edo-tensai, then again sasori killed the kazekage....and oro technically "defeated" the hokage. becuase i'm not sure how the fight would've progressed if the third didnt use that move.

[Assertn]

what if sarutobi's cancellation of the 4th's summoning effect was permanent and oro can't call the 4th anymore?
what if sasori is capable of doing the same thing that sarutobi did if oro can call him up again and attempts to?

Sure oro knows sasori's fighting style, but sasori knows oro's fighting style too.

The only valid argument that supports oro winning is that oro consciously arranged to attack sasori at the bridge, and he wouldn't do that if he didnt think he stood a chance at winning.