Sasori vs Oro

[KoKo37]

Originally posted by: anphorus

Also, I'm near positive that Naruto's teacher- guy (can't remember his name. that's faily embarassing) actually said directly that the 3rd Hokage was "Considered the strongest of all the Kages".

i think he meant the Sarutobi was the strongest kage of the current 7 kages and not of all time. Or he might of been the strongest of all time in his Prime.

Originally posted by: Uchiha Barles
Hard to say really. But I think Orochimaru would win. Both Sasori and Orochimaru have dead kages on their list of victims, but Orochimaru had no arms when he was fighting Tsunade and Jiraiya, and he was still owning both of them for much of the fight. His badass status is set in stone. On the other hand, Sasori lost to a baby and a granny.

well Jiraiya was drugged, and Tsunade never fought in a long time, and Orochimaru has Kabuto, though if everyone was at 100% I think Oro and Kabuto would beat Jiraiya and Tsunade.


and Konohamaru is right, Sarutobi was super old, and Orochimaru did say if he was 10 years younger he could of stood a chance or something.


anyways on topic now, I think Oro would win because of his revivals, his giant snake summon would probally beat his puppets, and Oro has most likey gotten a lot stronger in the 2 year jump, and if he had Kabuto as well, Sasori wouldn't stand a chance imo.

[The Heretic Azazel]

The way I see it, Oro put him in the position that he had to call the Death God. I'm sure he wouldn't have done it if Oro hadn't been such a huge threat to him.

[Prof. Chaos]

Sasori would win. Sasori was only defeated by Sakura and Chiyo because she herself was a master of puppets and knew how to dodge the attacks.

Of course Oro could always summon the huge snake Mamba.

[Assertn]

he called the death god cause of the super gay resurrection jutsu. Most of that whole fight was sarutobi vs the two former hokages.
I think i would've loved to see the 3rd kazekage puppet vs th 4th hokage zombie.

Prof. Chaos: I agree...without an advanced understanding of puppets, there would be no way to avoid getting so much as a scratch...and a scratch is all it takes for sasori's poison to take effect

The only reason sasori lost was because he was up against one person who knew how to counter most of his attacks, and one person who knew how to counter his poison. You need to be able to counter both of these to win against sasori.

[Sapphire]

Yeah I can't think about how Orochimaru could avoid getting poisoned.. He isn't too fast..

Is he still handicapped by the way?

[Knives122]

we dont know, they still haven't explained it (but he should still be still seeing how the 3rd chopped off the soul arms of Oro).

[Sapphire]

If that's the case, then Sasuke would be useless, I guess...

[nests]

Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
he called the death god cause of the super gay resurrection jutsu. Most of that whole fight was sarutobi vs the two former hokages.
I think i would've loved to see the 3rd kazekage puppet vs th 4th hokage zombie.

Prof. Chaos: I agree...without an advanced understanding of puppets, there would be no way to avoid getting so much as a scratch...and a scratch is all it takes for sasori's poison to take effect

The only reason sasori lost was because he was up against one person who knew how to counter most of his attacks, and one person who knew how to counter his poison. You need to be able to counter both of these to win against sasori.

Damn, now there a nice explanation of things after this I dont think I can clearly choose a winner

Another thing both of this guys were previous partners and probably knew of eachothers abilities so it would be a battle interesting battle. The loser would probably be the first one to make a mistake

[Assertn]

Yes, but it still boils down to oro having to get a critical hit at sasori's core, while sasori only needing so much as a scratch.

[Sapphire]

Unless he get's Mamba to body slam Sasori's army thing o_O;;

[Hakeem_21]

Originally posted by: KoKo37

Originally posted by: anphorus

Also, I'm near positive that Naruto's teacher- guy (can't remember his name. that's faily embarassing) actually said directly that the 3rd Hokage was "Considered the strongest of all the Kages".

i think he meant the Sarutobi was the strongest kage of the current 7 kages and not of all time. Or he might of been the strongest of all time in his Prime.

Originally posted by: Uchiha Barles
Hard to say really. But I think Orochimaru would win. Both Sasori and Orochimaru have dead kages on their list of victims, but Orochimaru had no arms when he was fighting Tsunade and Jiraiya, and he was still owning both of them for much of the fight. His badass status is set in stone. On the other hand, Sasori lost to a baby and a granny.

well Jiraiya was drugged, and Tsunade never fought in a long time, and Orochimaru has Kabuto, though if everyone was at 100% I think Oro and Kabuto would beat Jiraiya and Tsunade.


and Konohamaru is right, Sarutobi was super old, and Orochimaru did say if he was 10 years younger he could of stood a chance or something.


anyways on topic now, I think Oro would win because of his revivals, his giant snake summon would probally beat his puppets, and Oro has most likey gotten a lot stronger in the 2 year jump, and if he had Kabuto as well, Sasori wouldn't stand a chance imo.

Haha you are funny now you think Kabuto is good enough that he can help take down both Jiraya and Tsunade....

If Jiraya wasnt poisened he would take on Oro and Kabuto on himself.

For godsake Kabuto got hurt badly by Naruto who sucked then.....

[Sapphire]

Yeah but Kabuto is a medical ninja who Tsunade herself said is better than she was in her prime.. Kabuto always sucked at close combat so would basically just be there for "support" or healing...

We don't know how Naruto fights now.. so he might suck now too.. Kabuto was like his second to last one-on-one last fight in the manga..

[Hakeem_21]

Still he sucked then. Now we can see that he attacks a little smarter.

Tsunade never said he were a better ninja or stronger. Who cares about his healing ability when there is a one on one. A ninja of the level of Tsunade would kill him before he could heal himself. He only shined against her cause of her fear for blood. That we know for sure. I like Kabouto but i hate when peope overrate him just cause of that fight against Tsunade and just cause he is Oror' man.

[Sapphire]

I'm not saying that he's strong.. I meant that he is useful to Orochimaru because of his medical abilities..

[KoKo37]

im not saying hes as strong as a sannin, but i think he could *help* take down Tsunade and Jiraya with Orochimaru because of his healing abillites, even if your not a strong fighter, if you got good healing abillites that can sometimes be just as helpful if your in a team or with a partner. Also im not overratting him, Orochi said he was about as strong as Kakashi, ( Before the jump ) and thats pretty strong. And just in my opinion if Orochi had both him arms working he could beat Tsunade and Jiraya ( not drugged ) with Kabuto -.-"

Anyways already been mentioned before but Oro and Sasori have both been partners, but personly knowing Sasoris skills would be more helpful then knowings Oro's, and again Mamba could *probally* beat the puppets imo.

[ChaosK]

koko with the kabuto thing, thats unless jiraya or tsunade own him in the first 5 seconds... if its a 2v2 with jiraya+tsunade vs kabuto+oro do u really think jiraya couldnt fight oro himself for at least a while while tsunade owns kabuto? or vice versa?

but its hard to say whether it'd be sasori or oro, they both kinda had immortality because oro kept switching bodys and sasori was a puppet...

i'd say oro

[Hakeem_21]

People think Jiraya is weak just cause we havent seen him fight so of course Oro would take him easy......

Just wish the kishi could show us Jiraya kick some ass for once so we could silence those who think he is weaker than oro.

[Uchiha Barles]

I just want to defend Kabuto here...I'm pretty sure that hes good enough to possibly defeat a sannin. After that fight against tsunade and him owning her most of the fight, I'm pretty damn sure he can hold his own against a sannin. And, one other thing, I don't understand why people are saying "kabuto sucks at close combat." Ok, sure, he even said so himself at some point, but really, when he fought tsunade, did he use any long range techniques? No, they were all medical ninjutsu and taijutsu, all used at close range, against tsunade, who seems to be a close range fighter. and again, he wtfpwned her. There's no ifs, ands, or buts about the Kabuto/Tsunade fight. Now, if you say he sucks at taijutsu....that's a different story.

About Kabuto getting hurt by Naruto? Who the hell knew Naruto was going to pull off that super A level difficulty move? Furthurmore, kabuto had never even seen that move. The fact that he survived it at all is impressive, even coming from Naruto, who compared to the other genin at the time, did not suck. Sure he was stupid for even being in that fight, but he wasn't any worse than the best genin of the series at the time. If everything stayed the same, with the exception of Sasuke, or Neiji, or Gaara replacing Naruto in that situation, I doubt there would be any arguments stating "well, those guys suck, they couldn't possibly pull off a move to hurt Kabuto."

Also, for the point that was brought up saying that Jiraiya was drugged during the Sannin battle, that's true, but Orochimaru had no jutsu to speak of. I think Jiraiya being drugged was just to level the playing field, and was probably meant to suggest that they were equally disabled. If that's true, then Orochimaru performed magnificently. It seemed pretty clear to me that Orochimaru was just better than the other two Sannin.

[Sapphire]

Kabuto doesn't stand a chance against Orochimaru. Or Tsunade. The only reason he was "beating" her in that fight was she was cringing on the ground in fear of blood. And when she get's over that fear doesn't she punch him like 50 yards? My memory on that isn't too shabby, but I know that she kicked Orochimaru's ass after she got over her fear..
And the people who are saying that Kabuto is as strong as Kakashi and can therefore beat Orochimaru.. Orochimaru SAID that Kabuto COULDN'T beat him because he was only as strong as Kakashi.. and when Kakashi said he'd fight Orochimaru in that hospital thingy Orochimaru was all "haha... righttttt" and Kakashi was like.. "heh, I must be crazy for trying to fight Orochimaru" <--- I remember that clearly..

By the way I meant Taijutsu. ^_^

[Yukimura]

About Kabuto; he is a exceptional jounin level ninja, he make's few to no mistakes and is a pro at his job, he owned on a bunch of ANBU and is about Kakashi level, however The Three are...The Three, they all would wipe the floor with him in a simple i'm a ninja, your a ninja fight, we know Tsunade was a hemophobe or whatever its called and that's how he was able to get in and do anything to her. A few of those punches of hers and he's gone. The woman was fighting with all her major muscle groups slashed and her nervous system all fucked up, and she still spanked him like a bitch once she got over her own issues.

On to the actual topic, Oro might have a jutsu against poison, one thing the series hasn't really gone into detail on is the amount and variety of the jutsu that Oro knows. He's probobly got as many in his warped little soul as the Third did by now, if not more since he's not restricted at all in where he might go to get jutsu/create them through forbidden means. We saw pretty much everything Sasori had to give, and it was a shit load, but Oro has so many tricks up his sleeve that I doubt that he couldn't find a way around all of Sasori's stuff. The key point is that Oro is a broad range ninja and knows insane amounts of stuff and is probably infinately adaptable, Sasori's focus on puppets and poison ended up undoing him since he faced two people experts on countering his strengths, if you tried to counter Oro's strengths you'd have to do what the Third did and cut his jutsu off at the source, and even then we saw that he's still a force to be reckoned with. Oro FTW possibly by a landslide.