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    What i dont understand is how the secretary of defene blames Jack for what happened, when Jack was abducted against his will by the Chinese, had no plan to return to the US alive, and furthermore, saved his daughter...its just a little too dramatic for my tastes these days...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockmanj
    What i dont understand is how the secretary of defene blames Jack for what happened, when Jack was abducted against his will by the Chinese, had no plan to return to the US alive, and furthermore, saved his daughter...its just a little too dramatic for my tastes these days...
    That parallels the whole situation with Buchanan getting shitcanned in the middle of a huge crisis just because he had to take the blame for releasing Fayed years ago (instead of circumventing the law, racially profiling an Arab and illegally keeping him detained for an extended period of time, which they clearly expected him to do) and he had to be kicked out at a time like that? Just over the top sometimes.
    "They call it 'The American Dream' because you have to be asleep to believe it" - George Carlin

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    It does make sense politically though, since after any crisis the media, and thus people, tend to believe that if they can see something with their 20/20 hindsight then the person in charge should have been able to see it before it happened.

    When all the crap of the day is done and people find out that Fyed was in custody and released they won't care that there was no evidence, b/c they will already know that he was a terrorist and hindsight will tell them that if someone was revealed to be a terrorist today and it couldn't be proven 2 years ago then whoever was investigating is a total failure and shouldn't be in charge of anything no matter the situation.

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    I see what you mean, but that didnt mean that Buchanan needed to be fired in the middle of an operation. I'm sure another 4 or 5 hours would not have mattered, since the media wasnt inside of CTU.

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    well it's officially over for Day 6 and I'll honestly say I truly feel that they squandered it. They had some excellent plot elements set up for this season and failed to convert them into successes on the screen:

    Jack "came back in" far too quickly for my liking, only showing minimal after-effects of his torture and captivity. CTU melodrama revolved around Milo and Morris, nuff said there. (chloe was good as ever though). Jack's evil brother and his storyline, connected to the most shocking event of last season (Palmer's death) just faded away. Phillip Bauer, badass extreme for most of this season, died uselessly trying to get his whipper-snapper grandson to China? Lame.

    They hastily dealt with BXJ and the Palmer hit and it's still not clear to me what went on there or what to think about it... Also never resolved who tried to kill Wayne Palmer, never resolved Tom Lennox's knowing about it (he gets my nod for best emerging new character of the season, btw), left Fayed's death uncorrected, rushed everything with Audrey and Jack and had a lackluster, quasi-resolution of the overarching nemisis China plotline.

    Masa's grade: C-. Tolerable because of some Jack Bauer badass shit (biting head off, plastic bag torture, Russian consulate), Phil Buchanon becoming an awesome Almeda, Nadia being hot, Wayne Palmer actually being cool for 30 minutes out of the day and a Washington storyline that was cliche but pretty cool. Lose massive points on the "extreme threat" nature of the day (always "nuclear strike", "world war three" or "war with Russia"), killing off Curtis (that really was useless) and rushing the end and trying to cover too much ground in the last 5 hours.

    Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".

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    Another season come and gone. There have been better seasons, but it was not too bad. I didn't like the way they brought in the chinese plot w\ the chip most of the way through the season... im sure china has much more resources than to try to steal something like that from america. Im not sure i liked the way they ended the season...

    I do like the fact that there is going to be a next season and the plot line is going to be an absolute surprise... hopefully they will keep the same schedule next year to keep it together with prison break.

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    i hope that nadia isnt director next season, cuase she managed to fuck up at every turn...worst.ctu director.ever. Ive been talking about this with my friends, and we figure that jack should fight the US, since they do nothing but use him and throw him away. he could be like solid snake, but more bad ass, since he doesent have all that futuristic technology (he can use the infamous "bite the neck fatality move!")

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    Comic-Con '07: 24 Panel

    It contains some spoilers for the upcoming season and in general, but nothing really we can't handle. Read at your own risk, it's pretty good:
    http://www.tv.com/story/9952.html?ta...y_list;title;0

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    Just in case, there are a couple of new articles going around the internet. They contain heavy spoilers so I advice against reading them. Seriously, I read them and now I regret it.

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    i haven't googled yet but i remember 24 starting in january last time... so still a while to go. lol and i'm not trying to remember events of the last season.

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    Well, the season 7 trailer is out, and it looks great. Just a fair warning... IT CONTAINS HUGE SPOILERS. So view at your own risk. I will not allow any discussion on the contents of the trailer. You've been warned:
    http://www.24trailer.com/

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    that's not fair...

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    Awesome, but 24 always makes itself look awesome in trailers and season 5 was very much not awesome. However the plot looks promising, and significantly better than than last season, plus they're setting it in DC so I'll be able to poke fun at the geographical absurdities of the show in addition to the technical ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukimura
    Awesome, but 24 always makes itself look awesome in trailers and season 5 was very much not awesome. However the plot looks promising, and significantly better than than last season, plus they're setting it in DC so I'll be able to poke fun at the geographical absurdities of the show in addition to the technical ones.

    I thought season 5 was good, season 6 was the dissapointing one for me, even though I still liked it. The writers themselves said that season 6 was bad and that it was their fault, that they were making shit up as the season went along. This time they say they took the time to plan out the whole season, and the episodes should flow more smoother. I do like the setting in DC, Kim should be in DC right?

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    Next season looks cliche as all hell. Seeing as season 6 left me with a desire to stop watching, I'm really hoping that the "let's bring protagonist B back, turn him into an antagonist and have Jack go against his own friend" storyline isn't as bad as my first impression.

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    Whoops, replace the above 5 with a 6, I was talking about last season where it ended several episodes early and they filled the rest of the time with random crap about Jack's dad being a psycho.

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    I hope you all know that 24 has been delayed indefinitely http://www.variety.com/article/VR111...ryid=2821&cs=1

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    Wonder if Kiefer will find a way to go to jail and serve his sentence while the strike is on, instead of serving it during the season.

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    you know... this makes my mind up about the whole writers strike thing. I dont watch much tv. but I do watch 24 and it pisses me off that come january when it should be showing, it wont.

    These *insert explatives* are only hurting the people that actually give them a job, the viewers... they're not hurting the tv stations that pay them they are only pissing off loyal viewers that want to watch their damn shows!!!

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