The Bitching Thread

[conquistaDan]

It's business. The first priority is to provide a means of living for the people involved. The second, subordinate, priority would be to fulfill any ideals.

Oh I know. I'm about to get my business administration degree, so I know all about the business world. Plus, I'm my first corporation was started in contrast to Google. My company does online advertising for local (brick&mortar) and small businesses. But Google is getting into our game. It makes me feel like Apple back in the software days against Mr. Softy Gates. A week before my co-founder and I went live with our system,....we found out Google is using our exact technology for the local ads. Thats where some of the hate is coming from.

On top of that, I just don't like how everything has shifted from physical assets to non physical assets in gaining wealth. It's hard for me to accept someone being worth over $30+ billion in a dot-com. In a retail chain, ok. Software company (with actual physical software) ok. A manufacturing chain that makes steel, fine. But not a dot-com, sorry.

Another thing is, they aren't really businessmen, they're scientists who fell into a profitable business model. To business people, that isn't right. It's like they wanted to make the search engine first and almost only just to "help" the public and organize the worlds information in some way. I hate that. If you're going to make company, don't dual wield. Make one thing for extreme amounts of revenue and profit. Or something that helps the world. And on top of that, their system wouldn't even work without the engine to find and post those stupid ads.

[Kraco]

A week before my co-founder and I went live with our system,....we found out Google is using our exact technology for the local ads. Thats where some of the hate is coming from.

Oh. If you had said that in the beginning, I wouldn't have said anything. That certainly explains why you could be majorly pissed off.

Another thing is, they aren't really businessmen, they're scientists who fell into a profitable business model. To business people, that isn't right. It's like they wanted to make the search engine first and almost only just to "help" the public and organize the worlds information in some way. I hate that. If you're going to make company, don't dual wield. Make one thing for extreme amounts of revenue and profit. Or something that helps the world. And on top of that, their system wouldn't even work without the engine to find and post those stupid ads.

However, with this I totally disagree. For two things: Scientists need to eat as well, and nobody knows just how many scientists there have been that have worked their asses (or brains rather) off and then cheaply sold their inventions to some businessmen whose only effort was to see potential. And which one of these two ended up as the rich men? Thus, those researchers who happened to end up rich just following their passion get my utmost respect.

[conquistaDan]

Oh. If you had said that in the beginning, I wouldn't have said anything. That certainly explains why you could be majorly pissed off.

Yeah I should have said that to begin with. Plus if Google does in fact take our business (which I won't let happen) They'll butcher the profits and balance sheet of the local people by charging them ridiculous amounts of fees with hardly any gain.

Google has a bid model for each keyword. On top of that, the starting rate bid is 25 cents. From there it only goes up and up. And I have friends using Google's system. They aren't happy with the results they're getting, and they would love a new business model. We have a flat, fixed rate fee of only 25 cents per click. Never higher, no matter what. That's why I didn't like that they were going into our turf using our technology. It's going to be like making an operating system for the computer trying to compete with Windows. Thats why I'm mad. I hate how veteran businessmen make it hard for newcomers with better ideas, and more potential for making money.

[Ryllharu]

I hate how veteran businessmen make it hard for newcomers with better ideas, and more potential for making money.

Unfortunately, that capitalism. Though I hate how fucked up patent squatting has gotten a whole lot more than big companies squeezing out the little guy. It's one thing to throw your weight around and be an asshole about it, but another to only leech off someone else's hard work while you waited for someone to "violate" your patent.

The little tin-foil hat person within me thinks that Google is up to something huge, and has been developing it for several years. The downside is that whatever it is is not beneficial for consumers, perhaps even a huge invasion of privacy. Why else would they be hoarding so much capital?

[conquistaDan]

Unfortunately, that capitalism. Though I hate how fucked up patent squatting has gotten a whole lot more than big companies squeezing out the little guy. It's one thing to throw your weight around and be an asshole about it, but another to only leech off someone else's hard work while you waited for someone to "violate" your patent.

The little tin-foil hat person within me thinks that Google is up to something huge, and has been developing it for several years. The downside is that whatever it is is not beneficial for consumers, perhaps even a huge invasion of privacy. Why else would they be hoarding so much capital?

Well all I can do is keep growing my company up and up. That's all.

[Board of Command]

The little tin-foil hat person within me thinks that Google is up to something huge, and has been developing it for several years. The downside is that whatever it is is not beneficial for consumers, perhaps even a huge invasion of privacy. Why else would they be hoarding so much capital?

Google's world domination might not be as farfetched as it sounds in the near future.

[Abdula]

Didn't people say the same thing about Enron and Microsoft. I agree with Dan though you have more than enough right to hate google whether they were messing with your business or not.

i can understand where your hate is coming from, I feel the same about Apple. Unexplainable hate towards the company, the die-hard fanticas and the genral asskissing mass media. stupid Ipod, which made it socially acceptable to walk in the street without paying attention to where your'e going, and stupid Iphone, which is plane stupid. and expensive.

I agree with you too. I used to be a big Mac guy back in the day but that doesn't really mean much since everyone was but I've hated apple ever since they decided to start putting i's in front of everything and whats worse its now a popular trend.

[conquistaDan]

Didn't people say the same thing about Enron and Microsoft. I agree with Dan though you have more than enough right to hate google whether they were messing with your business or not.


I agree with you too. I used to be a big Mac guy back in the day but that doesn't really mean much since everyone was but I've hated apple ever since they decided to start putting i's in front of everything and whats worse its now a popular trend.

Yes, almost all of society was saying that about those two for their positions in the market place. Thank you very much for the support and agreeing with me. I very much appreciate it.


I was never a mac guy because I always considered it a cult following thing. And to add to your "I" point about mac, Google isn't exactly not following them. Trust me, Gmail, probably won't be the last product that has a "G" in front of it.

[Abdula]

No need for the thanks you're welcome.

Yeah I know google is going to start using it too, one of the reasons why I said its becoming a trend. There is the rumored G phone for example but I highly doubt thats going to happen, certainly not anytime soon.

Well Mac has become somewhat of a cult following but in the early 90's it wasn't.

[Ryllharu]

There is the rumored G phone for example but I highly doubt thats going to happen, certainly not anytime soon.

Maybe not. Google and Verizon have both reportedly started to bid for the UHF band that opens up when all of television switches to digital.
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My complaint for the day:
Snow, and how it makes people drive.

[Iridani]

Random complaint of the day... my cellphone's battery's almost shot. I'll charge it all night and when it comes time to use it, halfway through a 3 minute long call the phone dies on me.

[Kraco]

For you, the cause is actually the quality of your phone calls. Since you can't see your man, DF, live, you must do everything on the phone, and no device can handle such intensity for very long!

[Iridani]

Actually, I had been talking to my mom fast to let her know I managed to pick up what I was supposed to and that I was going to be quite late for work because of it. To talk to DF I use the home phone... free long distance!

[XanBcoo]

One of my closest friends got into an accident on Friday, halfway through a 6 hour drive to come and chill with me over the weekend. A witness said his car flipped over 8 times, but my friend can't remember for sure. Not so much a bitch from me, but more of a "when shit happens" post. Dude could have died.

Picture of him and the car a day later, also me.

[Kraco]

The car certainly got totaled. Good thing he only got a broken left arm. Could have been worse, for sure.

[complich8]

seatbelt ftw?

[Spiegel]

Brings back memories of when my sister totaled her car by flipping about five or so times. The officer that arrived first said it was the first time in twenty years on the force that he had seen a wreck so bad and the driver just walk away. My sister was lucky she didn't have a scratch.

[XanBcoo]

seatbelt ftw?

The seatbelt did save his life, but it also gave him the only broken bone (collar bone) he got out of the whole thing. His arm isn't broken, just scratched to shit. Apparently his left thumb was severed to the muscle, but I didn't get to see it, fortunately.

[Lucifus]

Fucking damn it man! Fuck! I just got home from seeing Cloverfield, got on my comp and saw a cool picture. Rendered it and started making a sig. It had to have been the best Horo one i've made so far and I got a RANDOM Blue effing screen o Death without saving a copy! I didn't even save the render, I have to do it all over again. FUCK!

[Genma]

So, on Wednesday I backed into a truck with about 4 witnesses, then (despite being told by them to leave a note) drove off. After that I hit a curb and screwed up my already crappy car. Then, the next morning, my car ran out of gas thanks to a broken gas light and my battery died, while all these fluids leaked from the bottom of my car. So we had to push my car to a gas station and I barely made it back home.

Now I'm without a car and, despite the fact that I've driven all my friends in similar situations (or when they didn't have licenses), nobody wants to go through the trouble of driving me around. Gee, awesome.