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    Quote Originally Posted by AssertnFailure
    This actually goes in the "things that annoy you" thread, but I don't want to dig it up...

    Anyway, I've started drinking beers at japanese restaurants/bars lately...specifically Sapporo.

    Now, when I look at the brand, I pronounce it SAH - POH - ROH. Having watched anime long enough, I think I have a pretty good sense of japanese linguistics with their own words.

    However, I'm always corrected by waitors/bartenders that it's pronounced SAH - PORROH. It irritates me however, because I know all too well the way english speaking folk bastardize syllable emphasis on japanese words that are written in our alphabet. It doesn't even sound japanese when you say it that way...it sounds more like spanish or something.

    Me and my dad go to japanese restaurants and we pronounce it SAH-POH-ROH... Im no expert tho... I cant watch the american version of naruto because their pronunciation of words pisses me off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarahchan
    Me and my dad go to japanese restaurants and we pronounce it SAH-POH-ROH... Im no expert tho... I cant watch the american version of naruto because their pronunciation of words pisses me off.
    Clearly you aren't an expert, because if you had any idea of how emphasis on Japanese words worked, you'd have realized that the Naruto dub actually pronounces 90% of the Japanese names and terms correctly (the missing 10% coming from the odd, walk-on-character VA who might place the emphasis 2 syllables back instead of the correct 3, and the fact that Japanese and American phonology are actually quite different - hence getting a regular American "oo" instead of a more centralized and compressed "oo" in words like "jutsu"). I've watched almost every episode of the dub looking for errors like that and have seen only the occasional few. Seriously. Bash the dub because you think the acting is stilted and corny, not because of "their pronunciation of words".

    It's also really annoying that Naruto has had just about spot-on pronunciation (despite retarded otaku's bitchings) but has had it's share of pretty poor voice-acting, while on the other hand Bleach has an amazing cast of actors able to deliver their lines smoothly and with nuance, and yet half of them botch up words with the mistake Assertn talked about. And they have a Japanese voice coach on staff!! Madness! It's so rare in a Shounen anime (which always have larges casts) to get a good balance of the 2 extremes.

    Also @Assertn, that's something I've (obviously) noticed before as well. I have no idea what causes it either, since General American English has no real rules for placement of pronunciation. Why the hell do people automatically make that mistake?

    Edit: Jesus. Wall of text. Sorry, I'm just passionate about dubs.

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    I will keep reminding you until I get a refund, just so you know.

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    I still don't understand who would pay real money for such things. I mean, isn't the whole point of a game to develop your own character? Where's the challenge if you buy an already badass character with a million gold pieces in the pockets?

    I guess I'm just too old and out-of-date.

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    Sold my WoW account for 400€ when i finally quit. And the characters i had werent too impressive, seen accounts getting sold for over 2k. You can make a neat amount of money by trading and selling wow accounts. Im glad there's rich and lazy people out there

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    My friend is in the number 1 alliance guild in the game and he has all the best gear for every spec and he got $3,000 for it. It takes months and months to do so its not worth it imo. Its easy to farm for gold but im too afraid of selling it and getting caught.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarahchan
    My friend is in the number 1 alliance guild in the game and he has all the best gear for every spec and he got $3,000 for it. It takes months and months to do so its not worth it imo. Its easy to farm for gold but im too afraid of selling it and getting caught.
    On US servers you only have one chance, if they find out, you get a permanent ban immediately in most cases(doesn't mean that they easily find out, you can still get away with it for a long time if you're careful). On EU however, you get a 72 hour ban first, which is great. The GMs on EU really suck in comparison to the ones on the US servers, they can use up to 3 months on an investigation, while US can finish it up in as little as 3 days.

    The gold prices are too low to be able to make a decent profit playing legit now though. It was awesome earlier, 100$/1000g.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xrlderek
    On US servers you only have one chance, if they find out, you get a permanent ban immediately in most cases(doesn't mean that they easily find out, you can still get away with it for a long time if you're careful). On EU however, you get a 72 hour ban first, which is great. The GMs on EU really suck in comparison to the ones on the US servers, they can use up to 3 months on an investigation, while US can finish it up in as little as 3 days.

    The gold prices are too low to be able to make a decent profit playing legit now though. It was awesome earlier, 100$/1000g.

    My friend power leveled from 45-60 and got banned for 2 days but he told me that a GM told him its a 3 strike your out rule depending on what you do. Wouldnt powerlvling be just as bad as gold selling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarahchan
    My friend power leveled from 45-60 and got banned for 2 days but he told me that a GM told him its a 3 strike your out rule depending on what you do. Wouldnt powerlvling be just as bad as gold selling?
    Yeah it would, but I'd say he was lucky. I know that when I sold gold in an unsecured way(on other accounts) I got the final warning at once on one account, and permanent ban on three others. I had no warnings from before of. Then again I haven't been on US servers for 2 months or so now so they might have softened up or something. And, it depends on which GM. I know people who have got a whisper from GM during botting, and have managed to talk their way out of it by blaming lagg. Thankfully I've never gotten a GM whisper when botting myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xrlderek
    The gold prices are too low to be able to make a decent profit playing legit now though. It was awesome earlier, 100$/1000g.
    how long does it take to accumulate 1000g?
    10/4/04 - 8/20/07

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssertnFailure
    how long does it take to accumulate 1000g?
    A bot can do it in 24 hours. And 15 days is not true, I could do it myself in 2-3 days of nolife gaming. 100$/1000g was still great because if I had leftover gold I didn't use for anything I could get a decent amount of money for it. Now it's only like 30$.

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    well, hey..you know....

    that's like....

    $4.17 per hour.......

    .......

    (for the $100/1000g rate, that is)
    10/4/04 - 8/20/07

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    QUITE a long time

    around 15 days AFTER you reach lvl 70 if you suck
    at lvl 60 if you are teh 1337s
    lvl 15 if you're ub3r 1337s
    Now 99% disease free!

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    python862's Ranting Thread

    Dude, use your brain. If every person thought they had a right to make a thread about 'Things I want to Bitch about' 'Game I'm playing' 'Times I was dropped as a child', this place would be a collection of blogs.

    You don't get your own Bitching Thread.
    Warned.
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    Well, folks, it's time again for me to make a fool of myself. Oftentimes, I find myself shouting at the T.V. and the news, stating "YOU'RE WRONG!". Now, I figure I'll do something a bit more worthwhile (though not much). Post a topic on an anime-based forum!

    So, without further ado, here goes.

    Table of contents: (decided by you!)

    Violence in Videogames
    Pinellas county school board fails again!
    Retards, Dumbasses, and Idiots oh my!
    More topics to come... these are the ones I could think of ATM...

    I choose first, and I'm going with the VGs...

    Violence in Videogames - Or how to find a perfect scapegoat.

    Turn on the television and tune to the news. What's the first thing that you're going to hear? "Violence in videogames is poisoning the youth of America". Yeah. Right. Keep thinking that, you might believe it one day. America's youth is poisoned not by violence in a virtual simulation. Instead, look to the true cause of the problem. If parents can't maintain at least a small amount of control on their kids, they don't deserve to be parents. It's not the videogames' fault that the parents got divorced.
    It's not the videogames' fault that the parents don't love their kids
    It's not the videogames' fault that even some poor kids get beat because they aren't being good little slaves.

    Point being: Videogames alone aren't going to cause poor little Timmy Tom to go shoot up his school, yet they're being blamed constantly anyway.

    It doesn't even matter, the storylines, the wit of characters, the things that make great games the way they are. A game could be so good, and yet can be tarnished in a snap by having been convicted of mass murder, as it were. I'm surprised that they haven't hit up Halo 3 just yet, and I hope they never will.

    Anyway, give me responses, challenges, votes for the next rant, things like that...

    Have fun!
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    TV and Videogames violence gives kids tools and ideas about forms of agressive behavior that the kids wouldn't have known otherwise.

    if you watch enough fighting games and 'combat' centered tv, it'll give a better understanding of fighting dinamics, so if you ever get into a situation where they fight, the entire fight is now more dangerous for both sides, since instead of clumsy punching each other, they'll hit key points of the body and go for the weak points of the enemy (as seen on TV wresting and mixed fighting shows). the kids are now armed with knowledge that should comes with experience (also with: self control, cool head, ability to differnce right from wrong).
    The kids would have fought between them anyways, now you've just armed them better to hurt each other and cause severe damage.


    Next Rant: How Al Gor shouldn't have won the peace Nouvlle (how do you spell it?), but rather, a prize more releavent to his school of influence (enivorment Nouvlle prize, or something, don't know it it even exists). And, how protecting the enviorment shouldn't be out of fear of existintion, but rather out of a moral view that acting like a jerk isn't a good thing to do, no matter whether there are victims or not.

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    You of all people should realize, Death BOO, that playing Call of Duty does not make you a good soldier, just like watching Hokuto no Ken does not make you a good fighter. I can't imagine why you would even think of believing that.

    The only way kids are influenced by violent video games is if they already have sociopathic tendencies to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XanBcoo
    You of all people should realize, Death BOO, that playing Call of Duty does not make you a good soldier, just like watching Hokuto no Ken does not make you a good fighter. I can't imagine why you would even think of believing that.

    The only way kids are influenced by violent video games is if they already have sociopathic tendencies to begin with.
    actually, call of duty, can help in trainning a better soldier. it's a matter of quickly regiestering nearby (suddenly appearing) objects as enemies and acting at a certain way. which is just conditioning, 'see Y, Do X'. that's why model targets are in the form of human soldier and not in the form of butterflies or pinetrees.
    it's not perfect, or even anywhere near useful, but it's the same principal.

    HnK might not be a good example, but what about more realstic animes (Ippo, for example) or even not-so-animated violence such as Mixed Matrial arts? Again, not perfect, but if you're clever enough, you might pick up some hints.

    I'm not saying that it makes kids violence, but it makes them more dangerous to themselves and eachother. since when they fight, they'll be armed better to hurt each other.
    another example: Show a kid that's it's possible to hurt someone with a knife, and give all kids knives. next time they fight, one of them will bring out a knife, becuase he knows that knives can be used to hurt someone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
    Show a kid that's it's possible to hurt someone with a knife, and give all kids knives. next time they fight, one of them will bring out a knife, becuase he knows that knives can be used to hurt someone.
    I'd have to disagree with that. They'll use the knives not because it can hurt people, but because it will hurt more than fists. What would you rather prefer as a weapon: your fist or a knife? Choosing the knife is just rational thinking. You'd have to be insane (literally) to use your fists when the knife is available to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by python862
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    Turn on the television and tune to the news. What's the first thing that you're going to hear? "Violence in videogames is poisoning the youth of America". Yeah. Right. Keep thinking that, you might believe it one day. America's youth is poisoned not by violence in a virtual simulation. Instead, look to the true cause of the problem. If parents can't maintain at least a small amount of control on their kids, they don't deserve to be parents. It's not the videogames' fault that the parents got divorced.
    It's not the videogames' fault that the parents don't love their kids
    It's not the videogames' fault that even some poor kids get beat because they aren't being good little slaves.

    Point being: Videogames alone aren't going to cause poor little Timmy Tom to go shoot up his school, yet they're being blamed constantly anyway.

    It doesn't even matter, the storylines, the wit of characters, the things that make great games the way they are. A game could be so good, and yet can be tarnished in a snap by having been convicted of mass murder, as it were. I'm surprised that they haven't hit up Halo 3 just yet, and I hope they never will.

    Anyway, give me responses, challenges, votes for the next rant, things like that...

    Have fun!
    Challenge:
    I got my tooth knocked out by a PS2 once... Game inside you may ask? Destroy all humans... Videogames are dangerous! HA! :-D

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