The Bitching Thread

[Animeniax]

First thing i did was called Amazon. The only thing i got from them was "we're contacting Fedex and they're investigating to see what happened". They did promised to refund or send me new copies if these were lost.

Fedex contacted me a few hours after that and gave the me the address and promised that they'll send someone else out tormorrow. I didn't feel like waiting for them so i went to the address myself hoping i can get my stuff since i needed them soon.

You have to talk like a man when dealing with these companies, and they'll do what you need. If order tracking shows "delivered" but the item is not on your doorstep, then Amazon will immediately reship your order while they track down the previous shipment, that's not your concern anymore. But you have to make them believe that is the only option you're willing to accept.

What will Fedex accomplish by sending someone else out tomorrow? He'll do the same thing you did and not locate the package. They were just dicking around with you, probably because you let them. Don't let them do that.

[XanBcoo]

I was playing a fun hypothetical questions game with a (very Catholic) friend of mine that unfortunately wound up leading to a heated discussion about religion. Really it was about Skepticism and the scientific method, but I don't think she quite grasped what I was trying to explain to her, and instead took everything as a personal slight against her beliefs.

It was frustrating because she kept falling back on the Bill O'Reilly argument "God exists because I don't know how things work."

"It's like love," she says, "You can't test love. You just know it."
"Of course you test it," I told her, "Every time you evaluate your relationship with a person and question the reasoning behind your attraction to them you are performing an informal test."

So I give her a Wikipedia link to "Emotions": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotions

Of course she refused to read it. "I don't believe what it says. Not everything can be tested."

I told her she was being a stereotype and tried to explain to her that not knowing the processes behind phenomena in life was not the same as proof of God. I tried to explain to her how the scientific method worked, what it meant to be skeptical, and what it meant to prove something empirically.

"Who says these people are right? They are just afraid of opening themselves to God."

My head hurts.

[Archangel]

A woman making no logical sense and letting her emotions cloud her judgment? Now THAT i can't believe.

[Animeniax]

Was it worth it to test your friendship with her by questioning her beliefs and trying to undo a lifetime of indoctrination by her parents, friends, and community? I've found it's usually not; you won't change their minds, you'll stop talking, and you end up getting no where.

Now if she's not hot, then by all means continue.

[XanBcoo]

You assume I pressed the issue. It came up through the course of our conversation, and the more and more ridiculous shit she said, the more I couldn't sit back and let her say incorrect things. I didn't even challenge her belief in God. She became upset when I started talking about things being provable and unprovable.

She was almost literally asking me "Why should I trust facts? I know God exists."

A woman making no logical sense and letting her emotions cloud her judgment? Now THAT i can't believe.

No.

[Animeniax]

You assume I pressed the issue. It came up through the course of our conversation, and the more and more ridiculous shit she said, the more I couldn't sit back and let her say incorrect things. I didn't even challenge her belief in God. She became upset when I started talking about things being provable and unprovable.

She was almost literally asking me "Why should I trust facts? I know God exists."

Actually regardless if you pressed it or not, do you think she'll be calling you for coffee and scones any time soon?

They say some things should not be discussed among friends. Between me and some of my buddies, those things include body weight, how much you make, and any mistakes they might have made recently. Wonderful friendships I've managed to make.

[darkshadow]

Shouldn't be discussed? Real friends should be able to say anything to eachother imo.
“A true friend knows your weaknesses but shows you your strengths; feels your fears but fortifies your faith; sees your anxieties but frees your spirit; recognizes your disabilities but emphasizes your possibilities.”

[Buffalobiian]

Shouldn't be discussed? Real friends should be able to say anything to eachother imo.
“A true friend knows your weaknesses but shows you your strengths; feels your fears but fortifies your faith; sees your anxieties but frees your spirit; recognizes your disabilities but emphasizes your possibilities.”

How many of these do we meet in life, if any?

I've always wanted to keep friends in different social brackets and try as hard as I can for them not to mix (eg, work, family and school). I also don't feel comfortable having someone know 100% of me, or even close to it.

As as the above paragraph suggests, I have never had what I'd call a "true" friend as per DS's post (which more or less coincides with most people's ideal true friend definition).

[Xelbair]

Xan - don't bother discussing about such topics with fanatics - they'll just shut they eyes and ears and mutter something similar to 'It was done by God/Allah/insert any other deity here' - even if you don't discuss something related closely to their beliefs. Although the face of Jehovah's Witness when my friend said that he does not believe in god was priceless - he was not able to comprehend the idea of atheism - so it might be worth to engage in such discussions from time to time.

[XanBcoo]

Actually regardless if you pressed it or not, do you think she'll be calling you for coffee and scones any time soon?

What about my posting gives off the impression that I'm desperate for female attention? Why do you think that I would even be remotely interested in a person like this?

They say some things should not be discussed among friends. Between me and some of my buddies, those things include body weight, how much you make, and any mistakes they might have made recently.

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic. Maybe amongst casual friends this might be the norm. How many close relationships do you have in which you do this?

Xan - don't bother discussing about such topics with fanatics - they'll just shut they eyes and ears and mutter something similar to 'It was done by God/Allah/insert any other deity here' - even if you don't discuss something related closely to their beliefs.

That was what upset me the most. She was being just the worst kind of Christian stereotype.

[Assertn]

Don't make jokes about how your female friend's boyfriend is shirtless in all of his pics. She will unfriend you.

[Animeniax]

What about my posting gives off the impression that I'm desperate for female attention? Why do you think that I would even be remotely interested in a person like this?

You don't need to be desperate for attention and still not want to lose a friend. You could be friends but not agree on everything, particularly politics and religion. No reason not to still be friends.

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic. Maybe amongst casual friends this might be the norm. How many close relationships do you have in which you do this?

Not my choice, just what I've come to understand about my "friends", even the close ones. Maybe it's that I subconsciously seek out these type of people to make friends with, but I imagine even with the closest of anyone's friends there are subjects that are off-limits.

Don't make jokes about how your female friend's boyfriend is shirtless in all of his pics. She will unfriend you.

You and Archangel's gf were friends on facebook?

[Killa-Eyez]

You don't need to be desperate for attention and still not want to lose a friend. You could be friends but not agree on everything, particularly politics and religion. No reason not to still be friends.

True, yet we're allowed to choose your friends wisely.

I had a similar discussion with my best friend and a friend of his. They're both religious and although I'm baptized a Catholic, my faith hasn't made it to this day. It was about different religious views and cultures, including those BC like presented in the then recently released movie The Fourth Kind which is based on author Zecharia Sitchin's pseudo- history and science.
There are many facts covered in his books considered as evidence that there was a superior alien race invasion and explained the missing link between homo erectus and homo sapiens. An example would be the Sumerians complicated metric system and astrology which many scientist regard impossible for that time.

My best friend was open for debate and considered a "different view" possible whilst his friend took it as a personal attack on his religion and denied anything non-Christian. I was merely explaining that everything we hear and see could be considered bogus even if there's so called "evidence". Still the discussion was a joke and he left shortly afterwards, irritated.
I didn't like him to start with but that foolish discussion really made me realize he's not friend material.

Onto my bitch, I'm applying for a job I already tested for and everything yet they still need me to write a cover letter. I suck at it and am at a writer's block at the moment. What's the point anyway? You have a job; I want the job, PERIOD. FF-ing 9 to 5 office society with their demands!

[rockmanj]

Don't make jokes about how your female friend's boyfriend is shirtless in all of his pics. She will unfriend you.

I am close to unfriending someone (again!) because they complain that I have to many articles on facebook. She is not tagged on any of them, and nobody is forcing her to look at them. She posted something to the effect of: "why are there so many articles doing work hours"? I think she should focus on her own work and not worry about me. I know that sounds snarky, but I see no need to point that out then point out that she blocked me from her news feed like I care.

[XanBcoo]

I am close to unfriending someone (again!) because they complain that I have to many articles on facebook. She is not tagged on any of them, and nobody is forcing her to look at them. She posted something to the effect of: "why are there so many articles doing work hours"? I think she should focus on her own work and not worry about me. I know that sounds snarky, but I see no need to point that out then point out that she blocked me from her news feed like I care.

Your friend needs to fuck right off. You are one of the only people in my Facebook feed who posts consistently interesting stuff.

[rockmanj]

Your friend needs to fuck right off. You are one of the only people in my Facebook feed who posts consistently interesting stuff.

Thanks, and its not like you can't hide posts or just ignore them. It only takes like a second to scroll past anything you are not interested in.

[UChessmaster]

I got home from the super market when my mom tells my that my puppy got poisoned by some random food outside the house, i rushed him to the hospital where he died 1 minute later.

[Buffalobiian]

I got home from the super market when my mom tells my that my puppy got poisoned by some random food outside the house, i rushed him to the hospital where he died 1 minute later.

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fuck..


Sounds like intentional poisoning by some asshole kids or neighbours who have a bone to pick with the puppy's noise, if I had to guess. It's hard to believe it's rat poison that got accidentally dropped.

[rockmanj]

I got home from the super market when my mom tells my that my puppy got poisoned by some random food outside the house, i rushed him to the hospital where he died 1 minute later.

That's horrible! I am sorry to hear that!

[fahoumh]

I got home from the super market when my mom tells my that my puppy got poisoned by some random food outside the house, i rushed him to the hospital where he died 1 minute later.

That is fucking horrible. It takes a special kind of monster to harm an animal with malicious intent. I'm really sorry about your loss, dude.