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    So I get it that this package contains the phone you'll be refunded for, rather than being randomly sent a new phone of your choice (or not)?

    I haven't had a bad run-in with the post before yet. The postman who works most of the shifts actually knows me by name now because I internet-shop all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    So I get it that this package contains the phone you'll be refunded for, rather than being randomly sent a new phone of your choice (or not)?

    I haven't had a bad run-in with the post before yet. The postman who works most of the shifts actually knows me by name now because I internet-shop all the time.
    Yep, same phone I originally ordered. I didn't get a refund though, they sent me a second phone. Not sure what I'll do with it. Pretty sure I won't be returning it to Amazon.

    Knowing your postman is good, but over here they change so often it's pointless. Plus now that you know them, do they expect a gift or token of appreciation sometime each year? I think that was in a Seinfeld episode.

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    No offense taken; I actually agree wholeheartedly. I especially dislike the stupid grill design they spread across the entire Acura lineup. And since the 2nd gen, the TL has been built in Marysville Ohio alongside the Accord.

    Are those BBS wheels or Enkeis? My cousin has an '07 STi Limited and I thought it was lame how they put Enkei rims instead of the usual BBS. The car is supposed to be special and most every stock rim manufacturer is step down from BBS, IMO.
    That's what I like about my STI... made in Japan. Not that it really matters, but a personal preference.

    Mine has the BBS lightweight forged wheels that came stock on STis in 2004-2007. They are definitely higher quality than most any other stock wheels. BBS aftermarket rims are pricey.

    Wow, that sucks. It looks like only the limited 2007 got the painted Enkei wheels. The other 07 STis got the BBS wheels. What a crappy decision by Subaru.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax
    Knowing your postman is good, but over here they change so often it's pointless. Plus now that you know them, do they expect a gift or token of appreciation sometime each year? I think that was in a Seinfeld episode.
    Haha, no.. He knows my name because he's always delivering to me when he gets to my house. I don't actually know his because he doesn't wear a name badge. It can get a little awkward at times since he's up so early for work and I'm usually in my PJs and we don't usually have much to talk about outside from our initial greeting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    Haha, no.. He knows my name because he's always delivering to me when he gets to my house. I don't actually know his because he doesn't wear a name badge. It can get a little awkward at times since he's up so early for work and I'm usually in my PJs and we don't usually have much to talk about outside from our initial greeting.
    You could ask his name, shake his hand, and thank for all the deliveries over the years the next time he brings you something. Most people don't mind being thanked even if they are just doing their job. That would probably make him want to treat your delicate figure orders all the more carefully.

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    I don't like people...

    "What do you mean I can't get in today!? I have my student card!"
    no, you have last years' student card, if you weren't an ass, you would have posted the damn yearly sticker on the card and then we wouldn't have the damn problem.
    "The paper said it was free entry until 12;00"
    then you shouldn't have showed up at 13:00.
    "I'm not a student, I have band practice! that's the building where I have band practice! why isn't that enough!"
    Because you're a fuckin' idiot, and you should drop dead. asshole.

    next week, I'm back to entitled idiots who don't pay and think they deserve something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Death BOO Z View Post
    I don't like people...

    "What do you mean I can't get in today!? I have my student card!"
    no, you have last years' student card, if you weren't an ass, you would have posted the damn yearly sticker on the card and then we wouldn't have the damn problem.
    "The paper said it was free entry until 12;00"
    then you shouldn't have showed up at 13:00.
    "I'm not a student, I have band practice! that's the building where I have band practice! why isn't that enough!"
    Because you're a fuckin' idiot, and you should drop dead. asshole.

    next week, I'm back to entitled idiots who don't pay and think they deserve something.
    You a bouncer or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Death BOO Z View Post
    I don't like people...

    "What do you mean I can't get in today!? I have my student card!"
    no, you have last years' student card, if you weren't an ass, you would have posted the damn yearly sticker on the card and then we wouldn't have the damn problem.
    "The paper said it was free entry until 12;00"
    then you shouldn't have showed up at 13:00.
    "I'm not a student, I have band practice! that's the building where I have band practice! why isn't that enough!"
    Because you're a fuckin' idiot, and you should drop dead. asshole.

    next week, I'm back to entitled idiots who don't pay and think they deserve something.
    Must be something about you, DBZ. I wouldn't approach a big scary looking guy and act like a punk.


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    Thanks for doing mankind a favour and telling those idiots off. I really hate people who think who can't differentiate between entitled rights and obtaining privileges.

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    Went in for the extensive physical testing, psych eval, and procedures to get hired on with the local police department after months of applications, background checks, and nearly finishing with the process of getting into academy... and I get disqualified for not listing the one time I tried marijuana a few years ago. Apparently it's ok if you try drugs when you're in your experimental teen years, but if you try them later in life then it surely must have been for recreation and you're a junkie and a liar. Like we all follow the same timeline in life and you're only allowed to do certain fuck ups at certain periods in your life.

    It's weird, since everything (and I mean every-fucking-thing) seemed to fall into place as far as becoming a cop, including getting a degree, getting an internship, and going through the entire hiring process as almost a perfect candidate... then this one fuck up has thrown all of that off the track and into a gully where unicorns lived but now they're a bloody mess because a train just crashed into them while they were peacefully eating grass. Now I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do in life. Getting dq'd from this application will also make it harder to apply to other PDs, as they require that you list previous dq's and failures to get hired and why.

    Lesson to all, not sure what that lesson is. Life is weird. I guess it goes on, but who the fuck knows what now. Of all the evil shit I haven't done in life, choosing to omit the one time I tried marijuana is enough to basically ruin my chances to do something with my life. Fucking awesome. Hell damn fuck shit hell fuck damn.


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    ...and I get disqualified for not listing the one time I tried marijuana a few years ago. Apparently it's ok if you try drugs when you're in your experimental teen years, but if you try them later in life then it surely must have been for recreation and you're a junkie and a liar. Like we all follow the same timeline in life and you're only allowed to do certain fuck ups at certain periods in your life.
    No, it is because you didn't disclose it. That makes you a liar (by omission), and why you get DQ'd.

    That's the exact same way a lot of people lose or are denied DoD security clearance. Honesty is appreciated, don't hide anything, that's how they know they can trust you...which is the whole point. Not declaring that you had a previous bankruptcy (implying money troubles and potential for being bribed or bought off), trips to "hostile" countries, misdemeanor infractions, etc. All of them carry similar weight during the evaluation.

    It's not what you forgot to disclose, or even what you did, it's that you didn't disclose it.
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    Bullshit. If you do disclose it, then it "doesn't necessarily disqualify" you, which is the bullshit they peddle when trying to get you to admit to every little indiscretion they can nail you for. But basically it does disqualify you, period. Except if you disclose it on an application, then they can disqualify you without ever hearing your side of it or getting more details about it. I was hoping by disclosing it in person, then at least I would be able to qualify the omission and come clean. I know how bureaucracies work, they don't look too hard into it when they comb through hundreds or thousands of applications. They look for immediate disqualifiers and you the applicant will never know why you didn't get a callback.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    I know how bureaucracies work, they don't look too hard into it when they comb through hundreds or thousands of applications.
    You say you know how they work, but your method still got you disqualified.

    From a purely moral point of view, if two choices get you disqualified but one is honest, the other dishonest, anybody desiring to be a police officer should go for the honest one. From your posts during the last couple of years I got the impression you felt a pretty strong call to become a cop, so I find it a little bit strange you tried to scheme your way through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    You say you know how they work, but your method still got you disqualified.

    From a purely moral point of view, if two choices get you disqualified but one is honest, the other dishonest, anybody desiring to be a police officer should go for the honest one. From your posts during the last couple of years I got the impression you felt a pretty strong call to become a cop, so I find it a little bit strange you tried to scheme your way through.
    I think there's a lot of discretion involved in the selection process, and I relied on that that my one indiscretion would not disqualify me. I wanted to get into the process, and putting down that I had tried a drug would have precluded that, which in hindsight would have saved me a lot of time and effort and might have been the right way to go. I did have a strong calling to be a cop, possibly even a divine calling for it. But I guess I misread the cards or god was dicking around with me. Who knows, maybe this is one of those "one door closes, another opens" or some shit. It's hard to see that now since I'm still feeling gut-kicked over this.

    I think "scheming my way through" is an assholish way to put it. I wanted to be able to present my case, so I omitted the fact that I tried a drug one time. Too often one negative factor is all it takes for your application to be thrown in the garbage. So I'm not perfect, but I am 99.9% perfect to be a cop and a good person, or at least I thought. I guess all the fatties and slackabouts I've seen with this PD are more suited than I am to be cops.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    Bullshit. If you do disclose it, then it "doesn't necessarily disqualify" you, which is the bullshit they peddle when trying to get you to admit to every little indiscretion they can nail you for. But basically it does disqualify you, period. Except if you disclose it on an application, then they can disqualify you without ever hearing your side of it or getting more details about it. I was hoping by disclosing it in person, then at least I would be able to qualify the omission and come clean. I know how bureaucracies work, they don't look too hard into it when they comb through hundreds or thousands of applications. They look for immediate disqualifiers and you the applicant will never know why you didn't get a callback.
    No, that's why you're a moron. It in no way disqualifies you for putting it down. Where I work, DoD Clearance is required, not optional. The applicant doesn't always get interviewed if everything looks good. They ask around instead. They'll interview the people you put down as references, your immediate family, and bounce what you wrote down off their databases. They'll find out you lied, and that's when they disqualify you. You don't get a chance to explain yourself, because that was what the disclosure portions on the forms are for.

    A lot of the people I work with openly admitted to previous drug use on the form. They got asked about it. The conversation goes like this:

    "So...you used recreational drugs?"
    "In HS/college, yeah, but I don't anymore."
    "Well, as long as you pass the drug test, okay."
    [Moved on to next topic]

    You get the chance to explain yourself because you disclosed it. Again, they're not looking for a perfect record, they're looking for honesty. Instead, what you did makes it look like you were trying to hide it. They didn't see it during the disclosure process. Then you told them. Now they know you're deceitful and a liar.

    Quit trying to dodge responsibility by blaming it on "The System." You can't blame anyone but yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    No, that's why you're a moron. It in no way disqualifies you for putting it down. Where I work, DoD Clearance is required, not optional. The applicant doesn't always get interviewed if everything looks good. They ask around instead. They'll interview the people you put down as references, your immediate family, and bounce what you wrote down off their databases. They'll find out you lied, and that's when they disqualify you. You don't get a chance to explain yourself, because that was what the disclosure portions on the forms are for.

    A lot of the people I work with openly admitted to previous drug use on the form. They got asked about it. The conversation goes like this:

    "So...you used recreational drugs?"
    "In HS/college, yeah, but I don't anymore."
    "Well, as long as you pass the drug test, okay."
    [Moved on to next topic]

    You get the chance to explain yourself because you disclosed it. Again, they're not looking for a perfect record, they're looking for honesty. Instead, what you did makes it look like you were trying to hide it. They didn't see it during the disclosure process. Then you told them. Now they know you're deceitful and a liar.

    Quit trying to dodge responsibility by blaming it on "The System." You can't blame anyone but yourself.
    Man you are so full of shit. Getting a security clearance to work some cushy paper-pushing government job doesn't have the same requirements as that required to be a police officer. I get the irony of that statement based on my choice to omit a fact, but it should still serve to show you're full of shit. Prior drug use as a desk-jockey gov't monkey doesn't come into play like it might as a police officer, where drugs are ever present and a daily temptation. I'll admit I fucked up by not disclosing it, but you still don't know what you're talking about. Admitting drug use on the initial interest form prior to the application process all but disqualifies you from consideration considering how competitive the PD in this city is and how many applicants they get. I'm sure your slide-rule cookie-cutter notion of the selection process might fit the rough and tumble world of gov't schlubs who want to get paid for doing as little work as possible, but it doesn't fit every (most) scenarios.

    The system is as fucked up as anything else, and denying that is what keeps you at your job and a part of the bureaucracy that keeps everything running like shit. Keep pushing papers, it's your calling in life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    Thinking you have a divine calling to be a cop, combined from what we know about your views thanks to your posts here, quite frankly, I'm glad.

    You're exactly the type of person who should never be allowed to become one.
    Divine calling isn't a choice, it's a realization. And you're the kind of person who holds police to some inhuman saintly standard of perfection, then slams them when they mess up. I'm almost happy I won't be a cop so I don't have to save people like you from yourself, them get sued for doing my job so you can feel more like a man.
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    Thinking you have a divine calling to be a cop, combined from what we know about your views thanks to your posts here, quite frankly, I'm glad.

    You're exactly the type of person who should never be allowed to become one.

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    Getting a security clearance to work some cushy paper-pushing government job doesn't have the same requirements as that required to be a police officer.
    Oh? I assure you, security clearance is exceedingly stringent. They look at everything that might give them a reason to assume you'd ever get desperate enough to sell secrets to foreign countries. At certain levels, they don't just consider interviewing a few of the people listed as a reference, they actually call all of them.

    And it's not just paper pushing. Trades workers also operate all over the place in government jobs. As do cleaners who work in those buildings, guards, food services staff, maintenance workers, transportation services, and even the person from the USPS who drops off and picks up the mail. But nice assumption.

    edit: And by the way, we get thorough medical exams the day we start too. Whether you're a trade worker or a paper pusher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    Oh? I assure you, security clearance is exceedingly stringent. They look at everything that might give them a reason to assume you'd ever get desperate enough to sell secrets to foreign countries. At certain levels, they don't just consider interviewing a few of the people listed as a reference, they actually call all of them.

    And it's not just paper pushing. Trades workers also operate all over the place in government jobs. As do cleaners who work in those buildings, guards, food services staff, maintenance workers, transportation services, and even the person from the USPS who drops off and picks up the mail. But nice assumption.

    And by the way, we get thorough medical exams the day we start too. Whether you're a trade worker or a paper pusher.
    Oh my bad, so besides getting clearances for paper-pushers, you also get them for manual laborers and other unskilled workers who have a pulse and no immediate debilitating health issues. Bravo. I'm sure the standards are just as high as with a job where you have control over the freedom and lives of people, carry a deadly weapon, and have the full power and authority of the state. Again, I realize the irony of asserting all of these powers of police and how betraying that trust by omitting a fact on your background statements is easily sufficient reason to disqualify you from the selection process. But I hate it when people try to apply their workaday middling scenarios to apply to all cases. Just keep it in your piehole because it doesn't help.

    You can't say there is a negligible effect of having admitted to drug use on the initial interest forms for a police job because that's how it applies to security clearances for gov't desk and labor jobs. Because then you'd be talking out of your ass.

    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    I'd make an awesome cop, i'm a people person.
    That's not what policing is about. It's basically baby-sitting and getting shit on and still smiling so they can't file a complaint against you. I'm ok with that because I've been in IT support for a few years and it's basically the same thing. Funny thing is, there are a shitload of pot smokers where I work in IT right now in the public sector. Gov't workers no less.
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    You're such a stupid bastard that you're still defending the thought process that cost you a job. I wouldn't expect anything less from the kind of drooling moron who idolizes the police force.

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