I think that "Nothing can be explained" is the best song on the soundtrack. In fact that's one of the best non op/ed songs ever in an anime, right up there with such hits as "Mezase Tenka-ichi" and "DragonBall Densetsu".Originally posted by: mage
what's up with everyone not liking Number One? It's the best song on the soundtrack.
its because he put it in the gigai before he gave it to rukia.Originally posted by: XanBcoo
Some hate it, some love it.
And thanks for posting the manga pages. That really helps clear things up. The anime didn't even mention that Urahara was cast out of Soul Society for creating the undectable-human Gigai he gave to Rukia. Now I'm wondering exactly how Urahara put the Houkyoku in Rukia without her knowing it.
mage is probobly right, I bet he had that thing set up and was waiting for someone to come along who needed a Gigai, and it just happened that he found Rukia and she needed a gigai. From what Aizen said Urahara was looking for a way to make it lost to all the people with spirit tracing powers, so that's why he put it in the power sucker body. And about Aizen, from the way he talks he
s probobly already hit the absolute peak of Shinigami potential and he wants this Hougyoku to become even stronger. This would explain why we he can split people in half with his finger and grab swords with his hand like nothing. The hypnotism power just makes him all the more broken as a charachter, like Orochimaru in the Naruto Game Cube game (which is awesome...iI hope he's not in the Bleach game thats coming out...?).
On the contrary, those pages seem to imply that he put the hougyoku in Rukia BEFORE he gave her the untraceable gigai.Originally posted by: mage
MANGA PICSOriginally posted by: FrogKing
Could someboy please either: 1. PM me the manga chapter/link for the current anime episode. or 2. Post the pictures of the Aizen's speech here (<ahem> Knives!). Thank you.
He put the hougyoku in the untraceable gigai, which he gave to Rukia. This is chapter 175, btw.
"He put a barrier around the hougyoku itself and buried it deep within a spirit in order to try and conceal its location"
Not only that, but he discovered this information around the same time that rukia recieved the gigai. How would the information about it being concealed inside her reach aizen the same time urahara concealed it?
When aizen says "He tried to hide the location of the hougyoku" in the last page, he's saying the gigai was given to rukia so she couldn't be detected. If it was already concealed within the gigai, then what's the advantage of giving it to someone?
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
If the hougyoku was placed in the gigai first, wouldn't it have to sort of transfer into Rukia's spirit if Aizen wanted to get it from her in SS? (As the gigai is still on earth). That makes me believe that it was transferred into Rukia's soul and not the gigai, because if that was the case he could've just waited for her to renter SS then go and pick up the gigai.
Also, the barrier around the hougyoku itself seems to render it undetectable, because, if you remember Urahara was expelled from SS some time before Rukia inhabited the gigai and Aizen said that, by the time he found out where the hougyoku was, Rukia was already missing on earth. This seems to suggest that Rukia was given the hougyoku some time ago, as it would make sense for Urahara to ditch the thing ASAP. (And who would suspect it to be n Rukia, remember how she was wasted by that hollow in ep 1).
About Urahara, I doubt he is in a gigai body at all, I think he is always in his spirit form; when he fights Ichigo he doesnt leave a body to fight, he is always carrying around his zanpaktou (in cane form), hich, as far as we know, doesn't manifest itself when the shinigami is in a body of any kind. Plus (and I'm not sure about this) I think only people who can see spirits have ever actually seen Urahara
Eh, now that I know that rukia's gigai was different than gigais in general, it doesn't really matter whether urahara was in one or not. Although I'm wondering if part of the purpose of a gigai is to make the person easier to locate as well, which would be a disadvantage for urahara.
BTW, I just came up with a prediction.
I think tousen is going to end up betraying aizen, which will be the turning point of aizen's career. He pretty much said so himself that the only one immune to his techniques is tousen.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
the purpose of a gigai is to help a shinigami regain its powers
MORE FIGHT LESS TALK
I could've sworn the purpose of a gigai is to allow shinigami to interact with the living world.Originally posted by: mage
the purpose of a gigai is to help a shinigami regain its powers
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
i suppose they could be used for both reasons, though. this line also seems to make a contradiction. if they're all made out of spiritrons, how can they be seen by normal people on earth?
anyway, you guys have won me over on the hougyoku. it does seem like it was put in rukia's body a long time ago, before she gave ichigo her power. i still don't think any of the hougyokus power was transferred onto ichigo, though.
well, that would explain why she would never regain her reiatsu after giving ichigo her powers.
LaZie made this...a long time ago.
"It was a very depressing time in my life, since I had no money I was unable to screw the rules" -Kaiba
Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
Eh, now that I know that rukia's gigai was different than gigais in general, it doesn't really matter whether urahara was in one or not. Although I'm wondering if part of the purpose of a gigai is to make the person easier to locate as well, which would be a disadvantage for urahara.
BTW, I just came up with a prediction.
I think tousen is going to end up betraying aizen, which will be the turning point of aizen's career. He pretty much said so himself that the only one immune to his techniques is tousen.
I would love to see this.
Tousen: Aizen, you fool, you were tricked, justice...
TOUSEN'S HEAD EXPLODES
Yeah that's right.. i refuse to believe he has any sort of advantage over Aizen, blind or not
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holy smokes! aizen's plot was crazy!!! i bet he planned it forever!
It doesn't say they are made out of it... it says that they are created with it...Originally posted by: mage
i suppose they could be used for both reasons, though. this line also seems to make a contradiction. if they're all made out of spiritrons, how can they be seen by normal people on earth?
Which means, that the gigai have a high concentration of spiritrons... not necessarily made out of that...
who cares? im betting when ichigo returns to the real world (im guessing he will unless he's killed and becomes a full time shinigami) he'll have a bone to pick with urahara.
LaZie made this...a long time ago.
"It was a very depressing time in my life, since I had no money I was unable to screw the rules" -Kaiba
this episode was amazing. aizen was always two steps ahead this whole time, predicting their every movements and acting accordingly to them. the fact that he seems to be owning everyone up until now, just means aizen is the master, and everyone just barks. gin and tousen seemed a little too quiet, though.
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Aizen didn't know about the fact that all the captains received the message
kick butt episode, I liked fox-man's entrance near the end. Aizen's plan was well thought out.
7th captain made a great entrance
It wouldn't really be a disadvantage, since no one is really looking for him. But i dont think he'd usea gigai body for himself. i just dont see the point in it.Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
Eh, now that I know that rukia's gigai was different than gigais in general, it doesn't really matter whether urahara was in one or not. Although I'm wondering if part of the purpose of a gigai is to make the person easier to locate as well, which would be a disadvantage for urahara.
What i wanna know is, WHY did he put the hogyuko in rukia in the first place? There are others far stronger who wouldve put up a better fight if they were ever captured. And im assuming he was cast out shortly after developing the hogyoku, so why not just hide it within himself. Since he was being cast otu anyway, there would be no need to go thru the trouble of using that untracable gigai. He could've kept all his shinigami powers AND keep the hogyoku safe.
Im certain he choose rukia for a reason. Its possible we'll have another major revelation later on in the anime, and we'll find out how rukia fits into all of this.
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