Williams executed

[Ero-Fan]

Originally posted by: The Heretic Azazel
Well the first thing we need to do to cut down the overpopulation is to quit locking up every single person with a petty drug possession charge

Hehe, I think rapist and child molestors should be eligible for the death penalty as well. That should help cut down on prison population problems.
You kill an inocent, you should die the same way you killed your victim, if not a more painful death. And if you don't want the state responsible, allow inmates to kill each other.
I'm pro-death penalty, in case you didn't figure it out for yourself. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

[The Heretic Azazel]

Seriously, don't even get me started on child molestation.

The system in the U.S. makes me feel like I can go out and rape about 5 kids before I get caught, serve 4 months and be right back on the streets to do it again.

[Ero-Fan]

Yeah, I know. I kinda understand why are system is designed the way it is, but I have a problem with the jury system. Some of these juries I just can't understand how they could let so many people go. People on the jury were the stupid ones who couldn't get out of jury duty. I think we should get rid of juries altogether and just let a judge decide, they know the law better than the avg citizen does.

[Assertn]

Rape varies depending on the definition though. There are some relatively bogus rape situations that a person can get busted for.

[Assassin]

i like how some ppl are still convinced that he repented, and was a changed man.

I can totally see how claiming to be innocent after murdering 4 ppl shows you've repented. And writing childrens book on top of taht, well that MUST mean hes a good person now.


But i dont think death was the answer. Not because 'we dont have the right to decide' or because 'we're the same as the murdere now' but because its an easy way out for the sons of bitches. At the very least, let them rot in prison for the rest of thier natural life. But even then, i dont think its enough. you get a bed, and 3 meals, and the ppl have to pay for it.

I say let the victims family members have a go at them. Let them torture the fucker to thier hearts content, and if he happens to die in the process, so be it. Having to pay for someones food and shelter, someone who's killed you son or daugter, thats not 'justice'.

ps: im sure theres gonna be a few ppl who think im barbaric, and inhumane and bla bla bla....but given the choice, 99% of humans would chose what i've said if this had happened to them.

[kaosoner]

i dont care if dat foo died or lived....... he aint from my family...... besides dat foo was a bitch ass crip.....BDS FOO

[Terracosmo]

Mankind is too fucking soft in general: "We can't take peoples' lives boo hoo [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img] [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img] [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]" just shut the hell up, if anyone asked me I'd gladly hit the electric chair switch for assholes that shouldn't be around.

I can see some people questioning the dilemma on people who have "repented". But that's why we NEED TO KILL THE DAMN CRIMINALS OFF FASTER!! otherwise we'll just end up with all this bullshit that always happens because people are hypocrites and keep forgetting what has happened. "Bah, who cares, he killed people 30 years ago, that's like forever!". Am I the only one who sees how absolutely sick that is?

[Uchiha Barles]

I find it hard to believe that someone would take a lie like that to the grave when the truth probably would save them. Can someone discuss or direct towards the evidence you all have that this man is actually guilty? Although, personally, foundation of the Crips is enough to merit a most brutal death, so I don't know how much I care. Just for the sake of argument though, link some of the evidence they have against him.

[Giboc]

I have no personal qualms against the death penalty. I don't see nothing wrong with putting a man to death if he commits an atrocious crime.

But guess what? The death penalty is not an effective deterent against crime. Not to mention innocent people do get sent to death occaisonally.

Honestly, it's being used as "Well shit, jails are too fucking crowded. Let's just kill 'em."

[Ero-Fan]

Originally posted by: Assassin
i like how some ppl are still convinced that he repented, and was a changed man.

I can totally see how claiming to be innocent after murdering 4 ppl shows you've repented. And writing childrens book on top of taht, well that MUST mean hes a good person now.


But i dont think death was the answer. Not because 'we dont have the right to decide' or because 'we're the same as the murdere now' but because its an easy way out for the sons of bitches. At the very least, let them rot in prison for the rest of thier natural life. But even then, i dont think its enough. you get a bed, and 3 meals, and the ppl have to pay for it.

I say let the victims family members have a go at them. Let them torture the fucker to thier hearts content, and if he happens to die in the process, so be it. Having to pay for someones food and shelter, someone who's killed you son or daugter, thats not 'justice'.

ps: im sure theres gonna be a few ppl who think im barbaric, and inhumane and bla bla bla....but given the choice, 99% of humans would chose what i've said if this had happened to them.

Haha, you're too soft. People in general don't know how to torture a person properly. We have professionals in that area, I say we let them work them over, that way its done properly.

Originally posted by: Terracosmo
Mankind is too fucking soft in general: "We can't take peoples' lives boo hoo [img][/img] [img][/img] [img][/img]" just shut the hell up, if anyone asked me I'd gladly hit the electric chair switch for assholes that shouldn't be around.

I can see some people questioning the dilemma on people who have "repented". But that's why we NEED TO KILL THE DAMN CRIMINALS OFF FASTER!! otherwise we'll just end up with all this bullshit that always happens because people are hypocrites and keep forgetting what has happened. "Bah, who cares, he killed people 30 years ago, that's like forever!". Am I the only one who sees how absolutely sick that is?

No, I completely agree with you, we're too soft on criminals. I only think we should just shoot the bastards in the head rather than a lethal injection. Bullets are cheaper.

[Terracosmo]

Word. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

I also like Assassin's way of letting the family members have a go at the criminal. Wow.. the prospect of that makes me drool. Imagine getting to stomp rapists' heads to pieces. Yummy [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

[PSJ]

Hang the criminals, that way you can use the same rope over and over. I don't believe in the "changed man" routine, alot of fuckers try it. Even if Williams wasn't guilty of the 4 murders he is still guilty for starting the crips and that should be enough to send him on his way.

In Sweden the prisoners get a tv, playstation, computer, 3 meals a day which a are better than the meals we get in school and if they are sentenced to life they get out after 12-15 years, are the sentenced to life in fucking dog years?

Recently 3 murderers escaped the highest security prison, this was like 8 months ago now or something. They managed to get ahold of a cellphone and made plans with that. If our prisons are that easy to get out of why do we have them?

Lock them in an 18th century style prison, thick stonewalls, small windows, bread and water. Let them rot to death. That would be cheaper.

[Terracosmo]

God don't get me started on Sweden's prisons. This fucking country blows in so many departments but that's probably the worst of them all. People WANT to go to jail here, that's how damn good the prisoners fare.

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[el_boss]

You seem to forget that the idea of prison isn't to punish people, but to rehabilitate. This notion has been forgotten though since most prisons now a days are only warehouses for storing humans.

There should only be like one sentence, "until deemed fit for society" or something like that. I mean what's the idea of putting someone in jail for the rest of their life, it has no purpose what so ever. If there is no chanse for that person to ever be free, then why should he even try to improve himself.

[PSJ]

The problem is that no one wants, say a rapist as your neighbour or lets say someone that abused his wife. People won't feel safe if you stick a person like that under their nose even if the person is rehabilitated for now but there must be something inside him that made him do it for the first time, who can determine that this something isn't there anymore?

Lets move on to work, it will say in your application that you did time, lets say a murderer got out after 13 years and is supposedly rehabilitated, who would hire him? I sure wouldn't want a murderer working alongside me.

Most crimes are done by people that are clearly sick, i mean who likes to have sex with children for example? What will you do about him? How will you rehabilitate him into society again?

Why don't we just take all criminals and put them in the hard jobs like working in a mine or something along those lines so we have some use for them.

[Winged Dancer]

Whenever I read that someone's died it makes me a little sad. I don't know about that man and what he did - news about him nevr reached my country and I don't read news on the net - so I will not argue whether he deserved it or not, but I keep thinking he was still human.

I imagine, you know, looking up at the sky and knowing for sure it'll be the last time you'll ever look at it... God it makes me sad.

Don't come at me yelling that criminals such as him don't have any right to look at the sky, please. I'm from a jewish family - my grandmother's family was basically anihilated by the Nazis. There are only two Läine-Weber remaning in the world now - two. And yet I, as a sentimentally-linked victim, wouldn't deny any nazi, not even Hitler, to look at the sky, which I'm kinda using as a metaphor for the right to live.

"Letting the families go at it" isn't a solution either. One of my friend's uncle was murdered in Argentina by a terrorist organization. Her mother absolutely loved her brother - how do you think she felt? When the culprits were found she, however, chose to be calm, rational and think about what she should do. At the end she ended up advocating for life - even for those who had killed a family member. She's now part of a Anti-death penalty NGO.

So yeah. I don't know if there's an answer and, as I said, I won't argue whether he deserved it or not, because as a principle I don't believe humans are fit to make most decisions related to death. I just still think it'd be very sad to look at the sky and know it's the last time.

Now, I leave the topic since I know this'll be dubbed as sentimental, since it's just better to let the dead's family kick the criminal, or better yet drop a bomb on most prisions, so yeah they'll all die LOLZ!!!11

*shrug*

[Xollence]

Originally posted by: Winged Dancer
Don't come at me yelling that criminals such as him don't have any right to look at the sky, please. I'm from a jewish family - my grandmother's family was basically anihilated by the Nazis. There are only two Läine-Weber remaning in the world now - two. And yet I, as a sentimentally-linked victim, wouldn't deny any nazi, not even Hitler, to look at the sky, which I'm kinda using as a metaphor for the right to live.

Well Hitler wasn't really the one who created the concentration camps or even the death camps. He didn't have the stomache to find efficient way of killing Jews so he left it to Heydrich. But yeah I see your point.

I'd rather not have the death penalty, but cases like Tookie I don't really care about.

[Terracosmo]

Originally posted by: Winged Dancer
Now, I leave the topic since I know this'll be dubbed as sentimental, since it's just better to let the dead's family kick the criminal, or better yet drop a bomb on most prisions, so yeah they'll all die LOLZ!!!11

*shrug*

Is it just me, or have your last 10 or so posts been incredibly pissy? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

[Ero-Fan]

She's a woman, so pissy comes with the territory, no?
Edit: To hell with me being nice earlier, I'll tell you what we should really do with criminals. I say, screw prisons, put em in a fenced in area. Have a free-for-all where the last man/woman alive gets a free "pardon", and by pardon I mean a quick death. Televise the event, use the money to pay for the guards and prison grounds. I bet it would be a hit right off the bat. I know I would watch.

[The Heretic Azazel]

Well it's nice to know she advocated him getting life and all..

But if it was me, they would die. By my bare hands.