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    Is anyone becoming bored with Naruto?

    My big concern with Naruto is the story pacing. Since the start of the series, how many arcs have there been? Zabusa, Chuunin exams, Akatsuki shows up, Tsunade becomes Hokage, and Sasuke runs away - that's part one. And that's 240 chapters. Between Sasuke getting the curse seal and him deciding that he was going to join Orochimaru we've probably got about a two year span in publishing. Plot-wise, in that time, we had Sasuke learn Chidori, Jiraiya be introduced and teach Naruto to summon frogs and about Kyuubi, Orochimaru fight the Third, Naruto fight Gaara, Akatsuki be introduced, Tsunade be introduced, Naruto learn Rasengan, Orochimaru try to get his arms healed, and Sasuke and Naruto decide to fight. Half of that is incidental details to the plot that could've been done easily otherwise (i.e., Chidori, Rasengan, and the frogs are simply techniques, Gaara's craziness was just an excuse for him to become Naruto's friend, and Orochimaru's loss of his arms and subsequent healing was just an excuse to introduce Tsunade). The first major plot arc laid out was the Sasuke revenge arc, and in terms of direct action on that we've had one encounter between Sasuke and Itachi. We're currently on Orochimaru's fourth significant appearance (curse seal, Hokage fight, getting his arms healed, and now this fight against Kyuubi Naruto, and there'll be at least one more unless Sasuke pops up out of nowhere here). We've still got a good deal more of Sasuke and Itachi to deal with, a lot more Orochimaru to deal with (with Konoha, Sasuke, Naruto, and Akatsuki), Kyuubi taking over Naruto, Itachi vs. Naruto, various other members of Akatsuki including the superiors of the group (of which all the members we've seen so far seem to merely be subordinates of), Tobi, Kakashi's Mangekyo (possibly Gaiden 2, which we can expect since the first gaiden was numbered), and now Sai and Roots (along with any possible stories involving Konoha ninjas). But with all this, the whole first part (around five years of plot) can be summed up in three sentences:

    Naruto was a runt with hidden powers, and he learns of these and grows, making friends on his way.
    Sasuke wants revenge against his brother Itachi, and leaves Konoha for Orochimaru in order to obtain it, much to everyone else's chagrin, but especially Naruto's.
    Itachi is part of a secret organisation that wants Naruto's power, which will be relevant later.

    At this pace, it's really a bit of a pain to see new story elements be added, because it'll be at least another ten years before the whole thing finishes anyway, unless they've got the guts to accelerate the Sasuke/Orochimaru story so that Sasuke splits from him and goes after his brother, Naruto goes after Sasuke, Akatsuki goes after Naruto, and Orochimaru tries to out-manipulate them, re-joins Akatsuki (unlikely) or dies (really, Orochimaru dying would simplify the plot a whole lot - he's been presented as the big bad guy of the series, but so has Akatsuki, which causes problems for all that time we spent building up to Orochimaru being the big bad guy because him being defeated before the end will be a let-down no matter what, but so will cutting out Akatsuki from that, and since Akatsuki as a whole has been set up as having several times Orochimaru's power, having them be defeated first would simply be obnoxious). Roots needs to be forgotten in order for the story to not spin ridiculously out of control. If they try to tie up Roots, then add in at least another year of useless side plot, unless Roots ends up being related to Akatsuki, which might make it interesting.

    Or they can cut the damn fight scenes down so that one battle doesn't take two months at minimum, and work on the story more. Then maybe it'll be finished in ten years even with all the extra plotlines (though I still expect a part 3 no matter what).

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    Is anyone becoming bored with Naruto?

    i completely stopped watching the episodes because of the rediculous fillers. And slowly but surely losing hope for the story, period. Now i pretty much just read the manga out of pure habit. I've read so much of it i can't just stop and wonder what the hells gonna happen next.

    I marked the downfall of the series with curse seal level 2. What originally hooked me onto naruto was that i had never seen an anime like it and the story line and action in the begining caught me. But after reading it so much everything is just repatitive and boring.

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    Is anyone becoming bored with Naruto?

    Actually, I think things just started to get interesting right after we met Sai. I have more hope for the series than before. I also have a feeling something really interesting is about to happen right after this battle.

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    Is anyone becoming bored with Naruto?

    Originally posted by: ruasonid
    My big concern with Naruto is the story pacing. Since the start of the series, how many arcs have there been? Zabusa, Chuunin exams, Akatsuki shows up, Tsunade becomes Hokage, and Sasuke runs away - that's part one. And that's 240 chapters. Between Sasuke getting the curse seal and him deciding that he was going to join Orochimaru we've probably got about a two year span in publishing. Plot-wise, in that time, we had Sasuke learn Chidori, Jiraiya be introduced and teach Naruto to summon frogs and about Kyuubi, Orochimaru fight the Third, Naruto fight Gaara, Akatsuki be introduced, Tsunade be introduced, Naruto learn Rasengan, Orochimaru try to get his arms healed, and Sasuke and Naruto decide to fight. Half of that is incidental details to the plot that could've been done easily otherwise (i.e., Chidori, Rasengan, and the frogs are simply techniques, Gaara's craziness was just an excuse for him to become Naruto's friend, and Orochimaru's loss of his arms and subsequent healing was just an excuse to introduce Tsunade). The first major plot arc laid out was the Sasuke revenge arc, and in terms of direct action on that we've had one encounter between Sasuke and Itachi. We're currently on Orochimaru's fourth significant appearance (curse seal, Hokage fight, getting his arms healed, and now this fight against Kyuubi Naruto, and there'll be at least one more unless Sasuke pops up out of nowhere here). We've still got a good deal more of Sasuke and Itachi to deal with, a lot more Orochimaru to deal with (with Konoha, Sasuke, Naruto, and Akatsuki), Kyuubi taking over Naruto, Itachi vs. Naruto, various other members of Akatsuki including the superiors of the group (of which all the members we've seen so far seem to merely be subordinates of), Tobi, Kakashi's Mangekyo (possibly Gaiden 2, which we can expect since the first gaiden was numbered), and now Sai and Roots (along with any possible stories involving Konoha ninjas). But with all this, the whole first part (around five years of plot) can be summed up in three sentences:

    Naruto was a runt with hidden powers, and he learns of these and grows, making friends on his way.
    Sasuke wants revenge against his brother Itachi, and leaves Konoha for Orochimaru in order to obtain it, much to everyone else's chagrin, but especially Naruto's.
    Itachi is part of a secret organisation that wants Naruto's power, which will be relevant later.

    At this pace, it's really a bit of a pain to see new story elements be added, because it'll be at least another ten years before the whole thing finishes anyway, unless they've got the guts to accelerate the Sasuke/Orochimaru story so that Sasuke splits from him and goes after his brother, Naruto goes after Sasuke, Akatsuki goes after Naruto, and Orochimaru tries to out-manipulate them, re-joins Akatsuki (unlikely) or dies (really, Orochimaru dying would simplify the plot a whole lot - he's been presented as the big bad guy of the series, but so has Akatsuki, which causes problems for all that time we spent building up to Orochimaru being the big bad guy because him being defeated before the end will be a let-down no matter what, but so will cutting out Akatsuki from that, and since Akatsuki as a whole has been set up as having several times Orochimaru's power, having them be defeated first would simply be obnoxious). Roots needs to be forgotten in order for the story to not spin ridiculously out of control. If they try to tie up Roots, then add in at least another year of useless side plot, unless Roots ends up being related to Akatsuki, which might make it interesting.

    Or they can cut the damn fight scenes down so that one battle doesn't take two months at minimum, and work on the story more. Then maybe it'll be finished in ten years even with all the extra plotlines (though I still expect a part 3 no matter what).
    thats what makes anime fun, too much craziness going around!

    Unless it becomes dbz style, where even when loose ends were tied, you still didnt get it (or at least I didnt)

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    Is anyone becoming bored with Naruto?

    bored? nah....the manga keeps me interested...the fillers however...haha.


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    Is anyone becoming bored with Naruto?

    Bored? Nah.... the manga is freaking good lately... The fillers however, make me wanna commit suicide.... cry

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    Is anyone becoming bored with Naruto?

    Originally posted by: darkmetal505

    thats what makes anime fun, too much craziness going around!

    Unless it becomes dbz style, where even when loose ends were tied, you still didnt get it (or at least I didnt)
    It's not that I object to a complicated storyline; I like having lots of subplots and twists and tangents. My point was more that there's lots of strands to the plot, none of which has advanced exceptionally far individually and all of which have a lot to go before being finished, they've taken a long time to get this far, and, knowing the writing style, they're going to add on more complications over the next while rather than simplifiying it. Unless Sasuke miraculously shows up in this arc and fights Naruto and that progresses beyond "hey, catch-up time" (without six months of Naruto fighting Sasuke), we're still at the beginning of the middle of the story, and by the time it reaches the final part's climax we'll have an incredibly tense moment where 40 characters are locked together, all trying to kill each other whilst talking about how their fates are all twined together like a bad harem story. That fight will take two years to publish.

    Then Naruto and Sakura will get married, and everyone ever mentioned in the story will show up for the ceremony, including the bad guys. I can't wait for that shot of Orochimaru and Itachi eating cake, with Lee drunk on champagne in the background, kicking everyone's ass. Gai, of course, would be in the dust cloud, having vainly attempted to stop his student. It would be very touching, I'm sure.

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    Is anyone becoming bored with Naruto?

    I too noticed that after all these years, not a whole lot has really happened if you break it down into the arcs shown so far.
    1) Introductory saga
    2) chuunin exam
    3) oro kills 3rd
    4) sannins fight
    5) sasuke chase
    6) akatsuki fights

    But really, you can't complain unless you're in a hurry to get the series over with.
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    Is anyone becoming bored with Naruto?

    honestly, i think the manga is getting a lot more interest than before. i can't even wait to get the next chapter. The anime ;however, bore a real deal out of me especially the last few episode. Few week ago, i still tried to tell me to endure these filter episodes, but until today, i don't even care any more, I mean look at the newest episode, they just take the old sceen for the old episode, edit it, and put it to the new one in the obvious manner. The story for these last few episodes is .... I don't know.... suck!!!! It is so ....weak.. and uninterest. Therefore, I completely give up with the anime, and concentrate on reading this manga.

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    Is anyone becoming bored with Naruto?

    Well, after all, you could say that everything till now is just the beginning of the series.
    The end of the Sasuke chase-arch marked, imo, the change from prologue to chapter number one.
    At that point, Sasukeīpersonality and goals have been exposed completely.
    Also, the Akatsuki have been declared as the real enemies, being told to Naruto by Jiraiya.
    And now, at the point of the Naruto vs. Orochimaru battle, i see the beginning of Narutoīs real story.
    That fight has to deliver something important story-wise to us (and imo, Naruto will loose the Kyuubi, but weīll see about that).

    And i wont complain about Naruto taking a lot of time before getting finished, because i love long series.
    Thatīs why i loved Dragonball, thatīs why i loved Hunter X Hunter, and thatīs why i love Eureka Seven (although thatīs not a so long series, unfortunately).

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    Is anyone becoming bored with Naruto?

    Not sure if anyone mentioned anything I'm about to type. Here it goes. I noticed something about the new ending in Naruto, showing a leaf falling and Naruto walking away from Sakura while she catches the leaf. And at the end, the sparkling material of the leaf are spread around Sakura. As they are forming in the end, you can vaguely make it out but it appears to be Naruto holding out his hand to her. I will post an image of it when I can. Just some food for thought. This just further confirmed what just happened in the new manga chapter 297 regarding Sakura's feelings towards Naruto. She really is in love with Naruto, that's a given. Yet, I think that Naruto will not respond in the same way. I think that he cares about her only as a friend now. But boy do I hope they end up together, they're just meant to be with knowing each other and being together for so long. Mark my words, something will happen in the future where Sakura let's Naruto discover that she loves him and it will be in some life/death situation battle where Naruto goes all out for her or she might even save him.

    Now, regarding another issue. I know that many of us are highly disappointed that we have not seen ANY of Naruto's new jutsu. However, it makes sense if u look at it in the long run. What's the point of showing us all his jutsu so early on, we'll just get accustomed to it like the Shadow Replication Technique. Instead, I believe that he will show off some of his moves when he takes the Chunnin exam and passes it in a breeze without becoming a fox.

    Well, those are two things that I forsee happening in the near future.

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    Is anyone becoming bored with Naruto?

    It looks to me that Naruto's current priorities overshadow something silly in comparison like a Chuunin exam, and it also seems these priorities are going to occupy him for awhile.
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    Is anyone becoming bored with Naruto?

    Indeed. I think the priority of getting sasuke back is going to consume most of naruto's time and thought, He doesn't even seem to care about getting people to think better of him anymore, just getting sasuke back, and not necessarily just because of sakura either

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    Is anyone becoming bored with Naruto?

    I think you guys are looking too much into it. She probably loves him like a brother
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    Is anyone becoming bored with Naruto?

    no dude she's got loves jones for the Uchiha cock

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    Is anyone becoming bored with Naruto?

    Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
    I think you guys are looking too much into it. She probably loves him like a brother
    Sakura, you must really................love him like a brother

    Yeah right!
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    Is anyone becoming bored with Naruto?

    Ok, Ok, perhaps not like a brother, but what about a mother??? Eh? In all seriousness, Sakura will or does love Naruto as a woman. I mean, let's be honest with one another. Sakura has spent most of her time with Naruto. Naruto has slowly creeped his way into her heart without her knowing it, but she's let it happen. Naruto has just been himself. But Sakura never new that Naruto. She has seen his kind, caring, determined, ambitious, and all around character. The thing about her getting to know Naruto is that she was surprised to discover all these different facets of Naruto. Now, in a way, Sakura has slowly been swept off her feet by Naruto.

    See, this is the difference with Sasuke. She had a crush on Sasuke, not true love as she believed. She never knew anything about Sasuke. Sasuke never opened up to her and finds her to be really annoying. I HIGHLY doubt that opinion of his will change, it would seem to corny for him to suddenly fall in love with her (out of character actually). Sakura had a puppy love for Sasuke, but that does not mean she does not care for him. I mean, she was on the same team with him for some time.

    She still does not know that she truly loves Naruto and just cares about Sasuke's well being. She is starting to realize it more and more. I love the way Kishi has done this. It is a very real situation that happens a lot in life. Sakura has fallen in true love because with Naruto it is not just the physical attraction, it goes beyond that. She loves Naruto's character/personality.

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    Is anyone becoming bored with Naruto?

    Originally posted by: Strike Freedom
    Ok, Ok, perhaps not like a brother, but what about a mother??? Eh? In all seriousness, Sakura will or does love Naruto as a woman. I mean, let's be honest with one another. Sakura has spent most of her time with Naruto. Naruto has slowly creeped his way into her heart without her knowing it, but she's let it happen. Naruto has just been himself. But Sakura never new that Naruto. She has seen his kind, caring, determined, ambitious, and all around character. The thing about her getting to know Naruto is that she was surprised to discover all these different facets of Naruto. Now, in a way, Sakura has slowly been swept off her feet by Naruto.

    See, this is the difference with Sasuke. She had a crush on Sasuke, not true love as she believed. She never knew anything about Sasuke. Sasuke never opened up to her and finds her to be really annoying. I HIGHLY doubt that opinion of his will change, it would seem to corny for him to suddenly fall in love with her (out of character actually). Sakura had a puppy love for Sasuke, but that does not mean she does not care for him. I mean, she was on the same team with him for some time.

    She still does not know that she truly loves Naruto and just cares about Sasuke's well being. She is starting to realize it more and more. I love the way Kishi has done this. It is a very real situation that happens a lot in life. Sakura has fallen in true love because with Naruto it is not just the physical attraction, it goes beyond that. She loves Naruto's character/personality.
    While I'd like it to be this way, it seems to me that the case is more the fact that sakura is realizing how much naruto is putting himself through just for her and she realizes that for all that he does for her she never has the oppurtunity to return favors of equal magnitude. Not so much that she loves him, but that she cares for him like a brother thats always there for her.

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    Is anyone becoming bored with Naruto?



    While I'd like it to be this way, it seems to me that the case is more the fact that sakura is realizing how much naruto is putting himself through just for her and she realizes that for all that he does for her she never has the oppurtunity to return favors of equal magnitude. Not so much that she loves him, but that she cares for him like a brother thats always there for her.
    Granted this is the obvious from the Manga in 297, but that is why Yamato says exactly what he does: "In reality, you...."

    She feels like the way that you say she does. She says it. She thinks that it is only a caring feeling but that is why Yamato is trying to make her see that she actually loves him. I stress this again, just because she loves him does not mean they are going to hit the sack and get straight to baking a batch of kyubi babies. She may love him and never formalize a relationship with him.

    I agree with your statement, but it is clear that Yamato was going to make Sakura realize her real feelings towards Naruto are more than just "brotherly" love

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    Unless you're talking about romantic love, there really isn't much difference between "brotherly love" and the love you're mentioning. I love my brothers, and I'd die for them, but I wouldn't fuck them, not even to save their lives. See what I mean?

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