well holow ichi would kinda make sense to see but only the manga readers get it**
anyways i wasnt to fond of this ep. too much talk for me i need just a bit more action. although it does really fill u in on what is going on
well holow ichi would kinda make sense to see but only the manga readers get it**
anyways i wasnt to fond of this ep. too much talk for me i need just a bit more action. although it does really fill u in on what is going on
I would say that just about anything goes in the the world of bleach now. And also that's easy for you too say since you have read the manga. It isn't really that difficult for someone who already knows what is going to happen to dismiss a theory. Saying what is not going to happen is just as bad as saying what is going happen, so you might want to stop with that habit, Bud. But I guess my theory might bee a little too good to be in bleach.Originally posted by: Budweineken
Without a doubt, the worst theory I've read in a while... None of your assumptions seem intelligent...Originally posted by: el_boss
Maybe he still is a captain and the whole outcast thing was a ploy to counter Aizen's plans. Urahara might have been "cast out" in order to be able to locate "the chosen one" i.e. Ichigo.Originally posted by: XanBcoo
The scene of Urahara in his captains robes seems to be a flashback, since he isnt' a captain.Originally posted by: el_boss
Edit: I watched the preview again and it is without a doubt Urahara.
If you don't like that one what about this then, Urahara is actually the mastermind behind everything. He went to the real world to find "the chosen one" (Ichigo) so he could send him to SS and bring the place down. Rukia is his subortinate and it was all planned that she would give Ichigo her shinigami powers. So actually Urahara and Rukia are manipulating Aizen... and they're married, but that's ok 'cause they're "open minded". Also Yourichi is on it since she is helping Ichigo all the time.
There is only one thing... one word... that suits the way they made this episode ...
so shinigami also run with their hands behind their backs
or maybe it's just him..Originally posted by: darkmetal505
so shinigami also run with their hands behind their backs
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This brings up an interesting point. What is Kira's story?
I know there was a clip of him visiting a family shrine, so I'll assume his Soul Society parents/family were killed somehow... I am really wondering how Gin got him to change so much... He seemed like an honestly nice person in all of the flashbacks Rukia, Renji and Hinamori have....
He ran from Hitsugaya (given, I'd run too if I was weaker) but he turned around and proceeded to tell Matsumoto that she was going to die at his hand (at least, thats from the manga piece that Kooshi posted, see bottom of page 3). Does he enjoy beating up on weaklings? Or just women? What is the deal? He seems very shaken and I have to suspect that he is under some sort of illusion control by Aizen or Gin seriously fucked with his mind (like how he did with Rukia right before the execution, except all the time since they're the same squad).
He seems to have accepted his role in the Soul Society plot... but he really didn't seem like that type of person in the flashbacks... Hope they explain this.
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^ I posted almost the same thing about Kira...I think both your points are possible: either Gin/Aizen twisted his mind making him agree with their plan or he could be under the control of Aizen's 'hypnotism'. I remember the flashback sequence and he is really good hearted and naive in it. I too hope it is explained.
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yea i think gin and aizen are messing with his head
Yeah, that's pretty obvious. I'm guessing he might beleive everyone to be evil, and that he is just defending his captain, or something.
I'm looking forward to seeing Urahara's past, and I don't think he's behind any conspiracy. Though I'm willing to bet he's got a few tricks to pull out. He's been my favorite character from his introduction and I was really suprised when I learned he was a previous captain. It strikes me as odd that he was in the R&D department of SS though. I pictured him as more of a fighter. Perhaps he sells some of the stuff he's developed in his shop back on the human world. Heh.
I also think Hinamori is down for the count, and Hitsugaya is just injured. He only took a blow to the shoulder. But I don't see him getting revenge Hinamori's death. Yeah, he's super pissed about it, but I don't think he'll become an avenger. Doesn't suit him.
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
OMGWTFBBQ?!!?! MIND FUCK!
lol why does everybody want rukia damnit?! and in the preview was that urahara? wearing a 12th captain uniform?
i dont think hinamori is down or hitsuyaga because you forget the captain and vice captain of the 4th squad is there. she'll heal everybody. and wtf was that in the preview with the blue lights going everwhere?
LaZie made this...a long time ago.
"It was a very depressing time in my life, since I had no money I was unable to screw the rules" -Kaiba
aizen's zanpakutou owns... =P. its so rigged basically he can make you think hes like a mile away when he's right next to you. that is of course if you saw the ritual... aizen is hacked!
And Hitsugaya's bankai sucks ass. The most anticlimatic thing I've ever seen.
Well it's just as hacked as Yama-ji Zanpakutou.
I was expecting more "WTFBBQs" from you guys, but I guess in the anime it was more predictable(The Manga readers were shot in the head when this happened). Hitsugaya got One hit KOed, Hinamori got stabbed and then you find out Tousen is in on it too and now we get to see how Renji holds up against Aizen the Magician.
@Poochi: The talking is the best part, and it's going to get better
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The big question still reamais though... What does Aiaen want and what does it have to do with Rukia?
Maybe she is the only virgin in the whole SS.
I wasnt expecting Hitsugaya to go down that easily. Oh well.
Looking forward to Ichigo's big entry again.
Also the other two fights ,Soi Fong/Yorouichi and Shunsui, Ukitake/Yamamoto, havent concluded yet.
Its getting harder and harder each week to wait for the next episode.
Actually, Kira is exactly like Hinamori. He is loyal to Ichimaru to the core just like Hinamori. And there is no indication yet that he knows anything about Aizen. So up till now, he's having faith in his own captain.
Unfortunately, its pretty clear that Aizen doesn't care tuppence about loyalty. So I'm afraid Kira is going to get burned bad too, having fought his friends and collegues because he had faith that Ichimaru is somehow good. Only to find out that he isn't. His face will be worse than Hinamori because at least Hinamori is dead or unconcious so she can't think about the betrayal. But Kira will have to live knowing he aided a traitor and his blind loyalty came for naught.
There's something about Ichimaru that doesn't completely write-off as evil though. Aizen clearly is, but Gin can also be somewhat manipulated. He and Kira apparently have a fear of death and no sense of self-sacrifice observed in Ichigo, Byakuya, and most of the other captains who are willing to give their lives to their cause. Possibly this is a weak point in their psycology that was capitalised by Aizen. By that same point they can be made to see the light again.
Incidentally, Zaraki made this comment to Ichimaru quite some time ago: "Stupid. The only ones who are afraid of death is you and that 9th squad captain. (AKA Tosen) And both turned out to be the underlings of Aizen. This episode was when Ichigo and Co. first entered Soul Society but before the entered Sereitei.
Originally posted by: Knives122
Well it's just as hacked as Yama-ji Zanpakutou.
I was expecting more "WTFBBQs" from you guys, but I guess in the anime it was more predictable(The Manga readers were shot in the head when this happened). Hitsugaya got One hit KOed, Hinamori got stabbed and then you find out Tousen is in on it too and now we get to see how Renji holds up against Aizen the Magician.
@Poochi: The talking is the best part, and it's going to get better
i had a nice chain of "WTFBBQ"....
naruto22, kira wont have to face anything if matsumoto kills him.
hey guys, instead of thinking hitsuyaga is weak, how about thinking that aizen is ridiculiously strong? why else would he have so many followers? thats 3 captains (TAHT WE KNOW ABOUT) for all we know, they might crap 3 more supporters for him and we'd all be screwed.
LaZie made this...a long time ago.
"It was a very depressing time in my life, since I had no money I was unable to screw the rules" -Kaiba
An astute observation you make here...Originally posted by: naruto22
Incidentally, Zaraki made this comment to Ichimaru quite some time ago: "Stupid. The only ones who are afraid of death is you and that 9th squad captain. (AKA Tosen) And both turned out to be the underlings of Aizen. This episode was when Ichigo and Co. first entered Soul Society but before the entered Sereitei.
One thing that is still not clear (to me, as an anime viewer only at least) is What happens to you when you die in SS? What exactly is there to fear? YOURE ALREADY DEAD!
Also, I feel like Matsumoto is going to be the key to unlocking Gin's past, and thus his consequent motives for aiding Aizen in this plot.
aaaa, that really gets my juices flowing for Kenpachi to get in there and tear those scheming cowards a new asshole! I want to go back and rewatch some of the interactions between the Captains, just to see if anything else comes out.
Also, Rukia, right before her execution says about Gin "After nii-chan (byakuya) became a Captain, this man started to approach him when we were together." The "when we were together" is the part that perked my interest before, and led me to believe that Gin was somehow 'staking-out' Rukia, making sure she was whatever they're looking for...
She goes on to say that she always felt like Gin's prescence "was like a snake slithering around my throat" making me really confident now that Gin wasn't really there to talk to Byakuya (clearing him of involvement in the plot), but to scope out Rukia....
I suppose all the questions about why Rukia is so important will be answered next episode... But I can't help but wonder.
Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".
What in the hell are you talking about? The Bankai didn't suck at all, Aizen is just insanely strong. I thought the short fight between the two was very well done. One explodes with rage releasing all his power while the other calmy tricks him, sparing no time in going for the kill (if he's dead). I can see how you thought it was anticlimactic as a Hitsugaya fan, but I'm just glad we got to see his Bankai at all.Originally posted by: BOARD_of_command
And Hitsugaya's bankai sucks ass. The most anticlimatic thing I've ever seen.
In any case, I too am rewatching old scenes between the captains (I first went back and looked at Aizen and Gin's conversations to note any undertones). It's cool to think that this plot had been going on the whole time. I've always assumed Gin was just pure nasty, and I'd like to know what he and Aizen have been planning.
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
You cannot be further from the truth... I never dismiss a theory based on what I've read on the manga... Further more, I've never said a theory in the Bleach forum influenced by what I've read in the manga, I always post the theories I had at the time this plot happened in the manga, even if I know they are wrong...Originally posted by: el_boss
I would say that just about anything goes in the the world of bleach now. And also that's easy for you too say since you have read the manga. It isn't really that difficult for someone who already knows what is going to happen to dismiss a theory.
I simply think that your theory sucks...
That this was a master ploy from Soul Society for Urahara to find the "Chosen One" I find it kinda stupid...
This is not the Matrix you know... And there's no logical reasoning to exile Urahara to find a "chosen one", if that was the intention they could've just sent him...
Urahara and Yoruichi without a doubt are attacking Soul Society for some reason... Ichigo has been nearly killed two or three times in Soul Society, by Captains none the less... So if Ichigo was a "Chosen One", "destined to save Soul Society", Soul Society wouldn't consider him being a ryoka and try to kill him off...
So that Urahara on his own is trying to find the "chosen one", that I would accept... And is actually a good theory... But that Soul Society sent Urahara to accomplish this, I can in no way or form consider it a good theory...
Kiba is just really loyal to his Captain, I doubt he really knows what they planned or how far they will go ... He just wants to be the best Vice he can be! Even if he does know of whats happening, its highly liklely he doesnt know their true plans or natures, just following orders.
In Aizen vs Hitsusaga, the anime showed Hits hitting what appears to be an illusion of Aizen then Aizen slicing through him, when in the Manga Aizen really sliced through Hits BEFORE Hits even swung his sword. I'm not saying Hits is weak, but Aizen literally pwned him before he realized he was pwned.
Aizen ... Mastermind ... powerhouse!
I think you just fade from existance when you die in SS ... seeing how in the flashbacks that one guy who looked like Ichigo died, that one captain has cancer and is going to die ... and heck even the execution ground exsits so I believe that they just cease to exsist.Originally posted by: masamuneehs
One thing that is still not clear (to me, as an anime viewer only at least) is What happens to you when you die in SS? What exactly is there to fear? YOURE ALREADY DEAD!
Also, I feel like Matsumoto is going to be the key to unlocking Gin's past, and thus his consequent motives for aiding Aizen in this plot.
aaaa, that really gets my juices flowing for Kenpachi to get in there and tear those scheming cowards a new asshole! I want to go back and rewatch some of the interactions between the Captains, just to see if anything else comes out.
Was it me, or did Matsumoto mention a baby to Gin? This mean Matsumoto was a mother to Gin's child or wha? That would explain the Valley of the Gods, but then it would change her title from flashy bombshell to MILF .... -_-
I wonder how Kenpachi would do against Aizen ... seeing how Aizen > a lot of captains (im gonna say he's stronger than GIN and Touseen seeing how they are his subordinates).
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