According to the artical the doctors said she could live max two months on life support so there isnt a hope for her.
I really hope this son of a ****** gets his punishment. Normaly im not pro or against death penalty but this one doesnt deserve to live.
it's actually possible for this sort of "vegetables" to live on for years with life support, but these days they aren't kept alive even if their relatives demand it.
at least i believe so...with modern equipment you can clearly determine if a comatose patient has any chance for recovery. and in most countries it's not considered murder to remove them from life support and let them wither to death.
They know for sure that she wont ever wake up,so i say let her rest in peace instead being stuck in a shell forever.
A lot of times these doctors are wrong, especially when it comes to giving an amount of time to live.
What he^^^^ said. Atleast now she can go to a better place and leave this world filled with pitiful people. Once again, I dont think the dad should die, I think he should be sent to an eternity of anal rape (prison). I'm dead serious, this guy doesnt deserve the easy way out.
What he^^^^ said. Atleast now she can go to a better place and leave this world filled with pitiful people. Once again, I dont think the dad should die, I think he should be sent to an eternity of anal rape (prison). I'm dead serious, this guy doesnt deserve the easy way out.
Edit: srry about the double post.
That is if you call it a living when you can never wake up,only sleep.Originally posted by: Xollence
A lot of times these doctors are wrong, especially when it comes to giving an amount of time to live.
In a word you are death,but this death you wont wake up in another place.
That was a pretty sucky story. Well, now the only think left to do watch the person responsible for this, the live one anyway, suffer as much as possible before a miserable, lonely, and hopefully, painful death.
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Yeah thats the only good thing about this story,he cant escape his faith now.
He should be punished, but I don't think killing him will do anything to make the situation any better.
Makes me wonder what the hell happened, for a child to recieve such a "punishment".
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Is it it murder though? Me and my friends were discussing the issue of medical ethics the other day. It was interesting, reaching a decision on something like with the limited budget you have for the health service in a hospital should you perform 50 hip replacement ops for 80 year olds or 10 heart transplants for 50 year olds? We all agreed that it is the responsibility of the State to look after its citizens and that all have the right to treatment, but then how does one balance that with the reality of limited resources?
Though this girl was comatose, being strictly technical she is only going to die because of the life support machines being disconnected from her. Her step-father managed to beat her to a vegetative state, and did not kill her.
Should he be tried for manslaughter? Attempted muder? Murder? Gross negligance? Child cruelty?
On another note, has the father actually been examined for being mentally unwell? The fact that his wife did suicide means she must have felt her life was truly screwed up and that she couldn't face its challenges anymore. I was just trying to think of why someone would do such a thing to a little girl, and insanity came to mind....
If the guy wan't insane, then he should really get his ass kicked some way or another. Depending on the charge, I think capital punishment should not be ruled out. He snuffed out a life, he deserves his reward.
He deserves to revert to his child-hood body, and then be locked up in MJ's room. IMO, he should be tried for manslaughter (Although that probably wont happen). Putting someone in a permanant vegetative state is just as bad if not worse than killing them.
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I think he should get the head-on-a-stick treatment myself... you Vietnam War buffs and people who watched Wolf Creek know what I mean!!
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Is what he did murder? I'm not sure myself, but I am sure of one thing: he deserves the worst he can get. Forget definitions. This was clearly an act of utter brutality to someone who couldn't possibly deserve it unless she was that kid from Omen. Technically, she'll be dead if she's taken off of life support, and the bat wasn't the direct cause of death, but the bat was the direct cause of putting her in an irreversible vegetative state which the girl does not have the financial resources to support, prompting the state to remove the life support. I don't see even a remote ethical ambiguity here.Originally posted by: DB_Hunter
Is it it murder though? Me and my friends were discussing the issue of medical ethics the other day. It was interesting, reaching a decision on something like with the limited budget you have for the health service in a hospital should you perform 50 hip replacement ops for 80 year olds or 10 heart transplants for 50 year olds? We all agreed that it is the responsibility of the State to look after its citizens and that all have the right to treatment, but then how does one balance that with the reality of limited resources?
Though this girl was comatose, being strictly technical she is only going to die because of the life support machines being disconnected from her. Her step-father managed to beat her to a vegetative state, and did not kill her.
Should he be tried for manslaughter? Attempted muder? Murder? Gross negligance? Child cruelty?
On another note, has the father actually been examined for being mentally unwell? The fact that his wife did suicide means she must have felt her life was truly screwed up and that she couldn't face its challenges anymore. I was just trying to think of why someone would do such a thing to a little girl, and insanity came to mind....
If the guy wan't insane, then he should really get his ass kicked some way or another. Depending on the charge, I think capital punishment should not be ruled out. He snuffed out a life, he deserves his reward.
"You are not free whose liberty is won by the rigour of other, more righteous souls. Your are merely protected. Your freedom is parasitic, you suck the honourable man dry and offer nothing in return. You who have enjoyed freedom, who have done nothing to earn it, your time has come. This time you will stand alone and fight for yourselves. Now you will pay for your freedom in the currency of honest toil and human blood."
- Inquisitor Czevak
Interesting viewpoint. So you are saying that even though the hospital has the power to keep her alive, by it turning the machines off is not unethical because her quality of life has diminshed to such an extent that it isn't worth living. And the blame for that lies with the step father. I havn't read up on this but is she permanantly a vegetable or is there a remote chance of her recovering?
Well who's to decide what the minimum quality of life should be. If it were me I'd still prefer to remain on the machine. You never know, they might find a way to cure her state in the future.
Yeah, although I feel extremely bad if the guy really didnt do it. But well.. *sigh* this is why I hate working in the legal field.Originally posted by: EpyonNext
If I met this motherfucker, I'd revoke his right to live. This kind of stuff is bullshit.
I took an oath to uphold the law, I didnt see anything about justice in that oath it seems like. Most the time the only thing blind about justice is its blindness to common sense
That's what I'm saying, sort of. Like Xollence said, its not their decision to decide if its worth her living or not, but it is their decision to decide if its worth them supporting her. If she could pay for it, then they might've let her stay in that state. But right now, she doesn't know that she's in that state, is in no condition to voice any opinions, and no matter what others decide to do with her, she will not know so long as she's in that condition. The doctors determined that it is unlikely that she will ever return to a condition where she will know. Considering what I've just said, I can't place the blame on the hospital.Originally posted by: DB_Hunter
Interesting viewpoint. So you are saying that even though the hospital has the power to keep her alive, by it turning the machines off is not unethical because her quality of life has diminshed to such an extent that it isn't worth living. And the blame for that lies with the step father. I havn't read up on this but is she permanantly a vegetable or is there a remote chance of her recovering?
"You are not free whose liberty is won by the rigour of other, more righteous souls. Your are merely protected. Your freedom is parasitic, you suck the honourable man dry and offer nothing in return. You who have enjoyed freedom, who have done nothing to earn it, your time has come. This time you will stand alone and fight for yourselves. Now you will pay for your freedom in the currency of honest toil and human blood."
- Inquisitor Czevak
Originally posted by: DB_Hunter
Is it it murder though? Me and my friends were discussing the issue of medical ethics the other day. It was interesting, reaching a decision on something like with the limited budget you have for the health service in a hospital should you perform 50 hip replacement ops for 80 year olds or 10 heart transplants for 50 year olds? We all agreed that it is the responsibility of the State to look after its citizens and that all have the right to treatment, but then how does one balance that with the reality of limited resources?
Though this girl was comatose, being strictly technical she is only going to die because of the life support machines being disconnected from her. Her step-father managed to beat her to a vegetative state, and did not kill her.
Should he be tried for manslaughter? Attempted muder? Murder? Gross negligance? Child cruelty?
On another note, has the father actually been examined for being mentally unwell? The fact that his wife did suicide means she must have felt her life was truly screwed up and that she couldn't face its challenges anymore. I was just trying to think of why someone would do such a thing to a little girl, and insanity came to mind....
If the guy wan't insane, then he should really get his ass kicked some way or another. Depending on the charge, I think capital punishment should not be ruled out. He snuffed out a life, he deserves his reward.
If you beat a little kid with a basebal bat and kick her almost to death then it must be attempted murder.
Its not like he was thinking she is made of steel,she wont die of this.
I dont know what the court will give him but thats what it is in my eyes.
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