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    Quote Originally Posted by God#2
    If Wolverine was close enough to stab her with his claws, he was definatly close enough to inject her with one of those needles ling on the ground.
    rewatch that scene. he only managed to stab her cuz jean momentarily took control.

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    She probably would have exploded those little needles anyway. The only way Wolverine got so close is because of his Adamantium skeleton.

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    and because jean was holding back phoenix, do you really think wolvie could regenerate everything if she just dissolved everything at once?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kAi
    I would say there will be another movie.
    I didn't think that they would be stopping with 3 movies.
    Magneto getting his powers back and Charles being back.

    Magneto and Wolverine are so badass!
    I heard the guy playing the juggernaut's was signed up for 2 more movies. So yeah, there will probably be more.
    10/4/04 - 8/20/07

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    Well, it was an ok movie, if you don't think about it too deeply. I really liked the special effects, as well. And Magneto was quite badass, which is the most important thing for me in X-Men movies. If he hadn't got his powers back, this would have been my last x-men movie, no matter if they make more or not. What comes to Angel, I think he got what he deserved: He was no superhero but a rich man's son, and probably flying over the battlefield was most action he had ever seen during his life.

    And thanks for the explanation of the post credits scene. The only movies I have watched till the end of credits have been MIB and LOTRs, so I pretty much hit the road when the text started to scroll. It's good to know what the scene contained.


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    Why was magneto wearing his helmet after charles died?
    If I went to a battlefield, I would also wear a helmet. That's what they taught at the army, as well.

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    I thought this movie was pretty weak compared to the second one. The killed major characters at the very beggining and didn't exploit new ones at all - sure Kitty Pryde and Colossus are cool but they're just powers, they've got no personality at all. And why introduce a love triangle between Kitty Pryde, Iceman and Rogue just to dissolve it so stupidly?

    Magneto, however, is amazingly cool. Not only changing the landscape but hovering over it all - man... what they did to him was too cruel. Worst than death, for someone like Magneto.

    BTW, I side with Mystique.

    Angel needed more screen-time, and where is Nightcrawler? He was one of the best things about X2 and nowhere to be seen... perhaps he went back to Germany and became a priest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Assassin
    rewatch that scene. he only managed to stab her cuz jean momentarily took control.
    That just proves my point even more. If Jean was holding back the Pheonix, Wolverine would be able to take his time to stab her with the needles just like he did with his claws. And no, Wolverine didnt survive because of his skeleton, but because of his regenerating powers. His clothes didnt come completely off, so the needles would have a chance. I still stick by throwing the kid though. if he can nullify any power, nothing would be able to touch him. The Juggernaught would be suitable to kill the kid beacuse even without his powers hes pretty big anyway. But if leech takes away Jean's power, she's got nothing.

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    This movie was good if you were watching it for some good mutant action, but otherwise it wasn't as good as I thought it would be and my expectations weren't very high. What I don't like is that the cool characters were killed off so early and where the heck is NightCrawler?! (Yes I know why he isn't in the movie, but I must express myself )

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    Wolverine's pants weren't destroyed only because ALL pants in Hollywood are magically undestructible... we can't have a naked Wolverine running around now, could we? Sure, the females wouldn't mind but all of the males would be disgusted at the possibility of seeing Hugh Jackman's penis.

    Well not all males, but most of them.

    I agree with the needle thing, though. They were small enough for Wolverine to keep inside his palm, for instance, to keep them safe. Then just wait for Jean to regain control and be all angsty and stab her with the needles instead. Then they can be happy 'cause Scott isn't there anyway so they can have guilt-free sex and I dunno, I never paid much attention to that, maybe they do love each other or something.

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    i think all the needles were destroyed right when jean started todestroy everything. and also the needles might not work because since magneto is a powerful mutant and got his powers back, jean is even more powerful and probably will have like no effect by the needle and that she will still be insane and have 2 personalities

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6Zabuza9
    and also the needles might not work because since magneto is a powerful mutant and got his powers back, jean is even more powerful and probably will have like no effect by the needle
    That doesn't matter, because the X-Men thought the needles work perfectly. However, if I had believed they worked perfectly, I think killing might have been more merciful than using the needles. Using the needles would be a bit like using a laser to render a normal human (permanently) blind, or something equivalent. For some reason I kind of like scenes like that when they are done well, like this one was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    If I went to a battlefield, I would also wear a helmet. That's what they taught at the army, as well.
    Ah yes.....to protect you from stray bullets.....that are made of metal.
    10/4/04 - 8/20/07

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    Actually helmets are mainly meant to protect from shrapnels. And when things explode in general, there's a high chance of any kind of material flying around at high velocities. For example glass, which is quite nonmagnetic.

    Well, I can't say I don't understand what you were going after originally, but on the other hand there was still Jean, who also had telepathic abilities in addition to the stronger telekinetic ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    Actually helmets are mainly meant to protect from shrapnels. And when things explode in general, there's a high chance of any kind of material flying around at high velocities. For example glass, which is quite nonmagnetic.

    Well, I can't say I don't understand what you were going after originally, but on the other hand there was still Jean, who also had telepathic abilities in addition to the stronger telekinetic ones.
    For Magneto being your reason to enjoy the X-men series, you don't seem to know much about him. The only reason why he always wore a helmet was to prevent Xavier from being able to get into his mind, or track his location.
    10/4/04 - 8/20/07

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssertnFailure
    For Magneto being your reason to enjoy the X-men series, you don't seem to know much about him. The only reason why he always wore a helmet was to prevent Xavier from being able to get into his mind, or track his location.
    Or maybe I just want to find logical reasons for details, and not let them bother me if that's possible at all. And this detail didn't much bother me. Generally speaking I watch movies for three reasons: For entertainment, for inspiration, and to appear civilized. So, being analytical about the movies is missing from my list. So, I guess you are right: I don't know much about him, even though he was my favorite character years and years ago when I read the comics, and in the cartoons, and now in the movies.

    So, you can keep saying it was a sucky detail in the movie, but in my mind I don't want to force the movie to be worse by such thoughts. I just made up a reason for him to wear the helmet, and I'm happy with that reason.

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    Excuse me? All I said was "Why was Magneto wearing his helmet after Charles died?"

    What started as an attempt to question an element that was overlooked by the director has apparently turned into a personal attack about "sucky details." Sure someone could have brought up comic book references that showed he had a reason to continue wearing his helmet. Perhaps the helmet works against phoenix as well, or maybe he still knew deep down that he hasn't seen the last of Charles. Or you could, you know, infer that he thinks he's a US Marine fighting a war in Iraq or something.

    For the record, I actually liked X3. You don't have to hate a movie to point out inconsistencies.
    10/4/04 - 8/20/07

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    Sorry if I made you feel like it was a personal attack. Wasn't my intention. However, I didn't ever say you were wrong. I just tried to offer some half-joking explanation why he was still wearing the helmet. The real reason no doubt was the fact the director didn't notice the inconsistency or it was because most of the time he had been wearing the helmet in battles, and so seeing him without it might make a part of the audience, however unjustifiably, annoyed by its absence.

    But for me, it's just that I rather come up with some fictitious explanation instead of the real one. I suppose that was the clash between our thoughts.

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    To clarify about the helmet, it wasn't something they overlooked. The helmet protects magneto from psychics....that is, ALL psychics. I can't recall a comic/series reference to this (perhaps someone else can), but in the first movie he mentions this when he's escaping from the train station (when xavier stops the bullet with this mind). Then in the second movie, near the end when he goes in to cerebro 2, that wheel chair mutant tries to use his powers on him, and magneto just smiles and points at his helmet.

    So, in the movies atleast, the helmet protects him from having his mind exposed to any psychics he may encounter. Its not just specialized for xavier.

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    I'm pretty sure Jean was the one that stopped the bullet, Charles can only control minds.

    And Erics helmet does protect him from any and all mind altering abilities, they've referenced it in the movies, the 90s cartoon, the evolution cartoon and the comics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knives122
    I'm pretty sure Jean was the one that stopped the bullet, Charles can only control minds.

    And Erics helmet does protect him from any and all mind altering abilities, they've referenced it in the movies, the 90s cartoon, the evolution cartoon and the comics.

    Thats about everything referring to X-Men isn't it?


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