Originally Posted by lelouch
it started with shirou "staying" at school so long and his encounter with Archer and Lancer
then shortly after, he got chosen as a Magus -> Fate
but it has probably more to do with them fighting at night only... absolutely everything happens at night in the anime.
btw, a sequel for Fate/Stay Night wouldn't be impossible... Saber destroyed the Holy Grail in the previous Grail War too (that's why the town was destroyed and Shirou was the only lucky one to survive... fate? ^^), yet it appeared again...
so, it's not like the whole thing about the Holy Grail Wars is over now.
what I don't know is if Saber is still considered a useable Hero for the Holy Grail War...
She accepted what happened in her live and ordered Bedivere to return Excalibur to the Lady of the Lake and her life ended... so she doesn't desire the it anymore, right?..
The "dream" as she called it, showed her that she doesn't have to seek to undo the fact that SHE became the "king", we can't except the dying king arthur to know about the holy grail wars and what happened in them though.. it's probably more like her subconsciousness tells her that (because of her spirit which fought in the holy grail wars and eventually became Shirou's servant)
at least thats what I made out of it
So the next War might be with a different pool of heroes to choose from, but I don't know if it is possible for Saber to delete the contract she made with the Holy Grail or if her spirit really has to fight forever, even if she doesn't want the Holy Grail anymore.
well...but this is IF there is a next Holy Grail War... for some reason everyone says that the grail is *really* destroyed this time... I can't find out why though... didn't Shirou's father do the same thing with the 4th Holy grail?
that's why saber thought he betrayed her... or not? he ordered saber to destroy it with his command spell
if it ends right there it would be pointless... it has to end how UBW ends, then it would make sense imhoI think it would be really cool if they made a sequal of how shiro develops into archer, and maybe have the end of the that series be the same as the beginning of the first series, with archer appearing as Rin's servant.
the "new" Archer will learn from the other Archer's mistakes and not be defeated by Berserker... well, basically he will do what he does in the game (UBW) and so on, because he knows what will happen if he doesn't ^^
It would be very nice to see someone like Shirou to become a person like Archer...
the process would be *very* interesting.. the game did a great job there but I really would like to see the point where his personality switched and he boiled over.
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yet, it would be very difficult to tell the story...
would you tell the "new"(from Archer-Shirou's point of view) grail war from old-Shirou' point of view (like in the game)? or from Archer's point of of view? Or maybe from both (like in UBW at the end, just throughout the whole story and not only towards the end )?
Because the main story doesn't end with Archer, but with shirou and the holy grail war... the viewers would want to know what happens with the Holy Grail, Shirou and Saber etc.
and if you focus on Shirou too much, you might get another F/S-N again and you won't "develop enough feelings" for Archer.
The beginning is really difficult to tell.. you don't want to see too much of it again, but you need it so much! The later parts of UBW would be absolutely no problems to adapt into an anime because they are all new. You can even put Shirou's journey (namely how he became Archer) in the very beginning, with scenes how he tried to save people and such and what happened when he tried that. This would give you a pretty good introduction and you can work with that alot in an anime or movie.
The tricky part is where Fate and UBW are exactly the same.. I don't know, maybe you guys have an Idea how to solve this out?
I always end up with the problem, that the Grail War also has to end and if you don't involve Shirou enough, the later part of the story might become boring because the viewer doesn't really care about Shirou after Archer's story is finished (hell it's difficult to explain this without talking about a few details from the game)
I think it is *really* difficult to make a sequel for Fate/Stay Night if you want the same characters in it but I'd really appreciate it if they show us Archer's story together with the UBW route in an anime-sequel of Fate/Stay night ^^.
but as I said.. Archer shouldn't die like he did in the anime... the story should be thesame as in UBW
I hope my text didn't turn out too complicated... but it's really difficult to explain everything without spoiling and the biggest problem is that Fate Stay Night is really complex by itself.. so even with spoiling it is nonetheless a difficult subject
but I also thought about a possible sequel and such when I finished UBW for the first time.. I always thought that Archer's story would be perfect for it but I had problems with the "script" if you know what I mean. Might be interesting to hear your ideas about it, to give me back my peace of mind :/ even if you have to read through my engrish hehe
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hmm but I think it is impossible to talk about a sequel without mentioning the game too much and get offtopic.
however, if an anime sequel like UBW is written and animated well, it could easily become a hit... because the story is very touching, just like the original. The only difference is that it is more manly since it is more testosterone-loaded xD
GAR!!!!
edit: marked the text as "spoilers" even though I gave my best to hide them... but maybe something slipped through.. you decide