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    From what i have seen the candidates are chosen by the holy grail itself. Usually a person who is a master or whose family are or were magicians.

    Also yeah lancer's master is pretty slick, If all this was planned by him, which i suspect it was.

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    I had always wonder why the mediator was in the first opening, explaining the holy war. I knew he had a great purpose. Why was it him instead a more proment character?

    I think it was planned because in the last war, the holy grail was destroyed, by saber's master, shirou's father. He did not win the war but the grail appeared to him anyways. He had saber destroy it. I think that he feared gilgamesh getting his hands on it. This brings up another question, who was gilgamesh's master. Who took place in the last war and is in this one now, is there a connection? I believe so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonrage
    From what i have seen the candidates are chosen by the holy grail itself. Usually a person who is a master or whose family are or were magicians.
    Yeah. This seems likely. It also seems likely to me, after the things Caster tried, with the existence of Gilgamesh, and lastly with Lancer's revealed master, that there really aren't any rules, asides from physical ones, to this game. If there appeared to be some rules, they were just imagination of the players, as if they had tried to make it more sensible for themselves.

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    It's not easy to be a master, nor a servant:

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    Nice episode. A lot of plot details were revealed and the happenings of 10 years ago are now just about crystal clear.

    However, if the grail is only capable of destruction, that means Saber can't remain in this world at the end without consuming souls like Gilgamesh did?

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    An excellent episode. There were times I think the 24 episodes limit showed in this episode, but on the other hand when Saber confessed she had been lying to herself all the time, it kind of explained how she veered so relatively easily right from the beginning of this episode. It's not like her real opinions or aims really had to be changed, rather she just needed the push and reason to realise what she really wanted.

    Also, to make the priesty fellow the ultimate villain of everything evil was kind of the old fairy tale style, but I can't say that unsurprising thing really would have worsened my opinion. It was, after all, just what was to be expected in the light of the recent events.

    Since this is from the same source as Shingetsutan Tsukihime, it wouldn't really surprise me if Shirou needed to say bittterly sad goodbyes to Saber at the end of the last episode. I wouldn't really mind that if it was done as finely as in Shingetsutan Tsukihime.

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    Another interesting note about this ep: it cleared up the whole "alternating gender" idea...

    From what Rin was saying, Lancer's original master was a woman (though the hand is sort of ambiguous), and Kotomine wasn't Gilgamesh's original master either, just made a pact with him at the end of the last war -- meaning Gilgamesh's original master could have been a woman as well.

    Man ... Kotomine is one dirty bastard though... I never really liked that guy to begin with.

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    Since Kotomine was able to make pacts with 2 servants, does that imply there is no rule regarding that aspect of the war as well?

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