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    Bleach 59

    ....wait, i was too lazy to read the last 5 pgs so screw it but

    is there 3 releases now?
    shikai-initial
    bankai-secondary
    senkai-3rd or final?


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    Senkei is just the name of Byakuya's final form of Bankai. If anyone wants to check for the translation, post it. I forget what it means.

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    Shikai and Bankai can have multiple ways of showing themselves. It's like how Tousen had that sleep thing he used on Ishida and the summoning of all those swords against Kenpachi.

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    Well, while I don't think Gin is the villain behind everything thats going on(for the aformentioned, he's just TOO obvious), he's definatly not a good guy. He's a huge dick. Kind of like how Byakuya isn't really a villain. Just a jerk.

    I'm gonna have to assume there's some kind of Hollow controlling events here. I mean, they're supposed to be the badguys in this show.

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    Bleach 59

    Originally posted by: kooshi
    Shikai and Bankai can have multiple ways of showing themselves. It's like how Tousen had that sleep thing he used on Ishida and the summoning of all those swords against Kenpachi.
    hmmz Tousen didn't use his bankai against Ishida did he? he didn't say "bankai" but "sing" or something (cant remember exactly) so I guess that was his shikai..

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    Bleach 59

    Originally posted by: XanBcoo
    3. Did anyone notice the colors of Ichigo's and Byakuya's reiatsu? I thought it was funny that the good guy's was black and the baddie's was white. Though I suppose it fits Byakuya to have white energy.
    Technically Byakuya isn't a bad guy. He's just extremely unsensitive and sticks to the law till the end. He's one of those people who think the letter of the law is more important than the spirit of the law. However, that doesn't make him a bad guy. Rukia broke the law and obviously her offense was bad enough to warrant a death penalty.

    Moreover, Ichigo &amp; company are people who broke into the SS and fought, destroyed property, and caused general havoc everywhere. To me, that sounds more like bad guys' action than following a law a bit too tightly and unmercifully - but still following the law.

    Besides, nothing else but black would fit Zangetsu...

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    I too think there are 3 stages once or release bankai. if it's true that would be cool. cause if ichigo reached his final sword tranformation now this early in the series, it could only mean one thing they're trying to finish the show soon. that would suck even more. does anybody remeber DBZ, SS3 was supppose to be the last transformation but DBGT had one more up it's sleeve. now i'm not comparing the animes but wouldn't be cool if ichi achived the 4th transformation using his hollow side.

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    Bleach 59

    Originally posted by: Honinbou
    Originally posted by: kooshi
    Shikai and Bankai can have multiple ways of showing themselves. It's like how Tousen had that sleep thing he used on Ishida and the summoning of all those swords against Kenpachi.
    hmmz Tousen didn't use his bankai against Ishida did he? he didn't say "bankai" but "sing" or something (cant remember exactly) so I guess that was his shikai..
    Just to clairify what I think Kooshi meant was that against Ishida he released by saying, "Sing Suzumushi" and against Kenpachi he had a second Shikai form "Benihikou Suzumshi". Therefore, it is perfectly conceivable that there are multiple froms of a Bankai. The said example is from Byakuya's 3 forms: 1) Kageyoshi 2) Senkei Senbonzakura Kageyoshi 3) Shuukei Hakuteiken. I think that Ichigo has a long way to becoming more skilled in his Bankai (and Shikai for that matter)
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    edit: I realized that form and release are not comparable, so I omitted release when I really meant form.
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    Bleach 59

    Originally posted by: Kraco
    Technically Byakuya isn't a bad guy. He's just extremely unsensitive and sticks to the law till the end. He's one of those people who think the letter of the law is more important than the spirit of the law. However, that doesn't make him a bad guy. Rukia broke the law and obviously her offense was bad enough to warrant a death penalty.
    Yeah, I knew that. I was just using "goodguy" and "badguy" in the traditional sense of the terms (as in, the good guy's energy is usually pure white, and the baddie's is black). I like how Bleach made the contrast in this episode, and I was just wondering if the colors of their energy's are more of a metaphor (maybe Byakuya's white reiatsu stands for the Justice of SS), or just for style (like how Byaku = white, and as you said, nothing else but Black would fit Zangetsu).

    Also, Tousen obviously has multiple attacks with his Shikai. We saw him use one against Ishida and the other against Zaraki. I don't think they are separate forms, just different abilities.

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    Bleach 59

    in the manga there is a cover page that has ichigo and byakuya on it and says Black Passion vs White Pride

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    Originally posted by: mage
    in the manga there is a cover page that has ichigo and byakuya on it and says Black Passion vs White Pride
    Your point being? Does it bother you that the "hero" has a black aura? I bet you would rather it were "white white vs white white."

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    Black is much cooler anyway. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
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    wait...if there are 3 forms of release, then ichigo beat byakuya's 3rd release with a 2nd? thats bullshit...


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    Bleach 59

    Originally posted by: el_boss
    Originally posted by: mage
    in the manga there is a cover page that has ichigo and byakuya on it and says Black Passion vs White Pride
    Your point being? Does it bother you that the "hero" has a black aura? I bet you would rather it were "white white vs white white."
    Well, I found it funny that the manga said that [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

    Byakuya has white pride baby!!
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    Bleach 59

    Originally posted by: Chaoskiddo
    wait...if there are 3 forms of release, then ichigo beat byakuya's 3rd release with a 2nd? thats bullshit...
    I was probably not clear on my previous post, but Shikai and Bankai can have different.... representations.

    Examples: Tousen's Shikai includes:
    - Nake (Sing)
    - Suzumushi Form 2: Benihikou

    Ikkaku's Shikai includes:
    - Extend
    - Split

    Byakuya's Bankai includes:
    - Kageyoshi (Blossom Brutal Shadows)
    - Senkei Senbonzakura Kageyoshi (Thousand Cherry Blossoms Brutal Shadows)
    - Shuukei Hakuteiken (White Imperial Sword)

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    Bleach 59

    Wow. One of the best episodes so far. That hollow Ichigo was so badass. But now Ichigo seems so powerful, the only person left that i can of to beat Ichigo is Yamaji.

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    I don't think thats right about Tousen.

    Sing Suzumushi is him releasing his shikai.

    Benihikou Suzumshi is his shikai's special spell-like ability.

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    Darthender, a shikai alone is just the form of the sword. Everything else along with it is it's ability. Kooshi is exactly right.
    Originally posted by: el_boss
    Originally posted by: mage
    in the manga there is a cover page that has ichigo and byakuya on it and says Black Passion vs White Pride
    Your point being? Does it bother you that the "hero" has a black aura? I bet you would rather it were "white white vs white white."
    No one said it bothers anyone. Mage was just answering my point about the "reverse roles" of the reiatsu colors. Turns out it was a metaphor referring to Ichigo's will and Byakuya's pride. No one's getting racey, dude.

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    Bleach 59

    wasnt tousens dark thingy his bankai?


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    Bleach 59

    Originally posted by: XanBcoo
    Originally posted by: el_boss
    Originally posted by: mage
    in the manga there is a cover page that has ichigo and byakuya on it and says Black Passion vs White Pride
    Your point being? Does it bother you that the "hero" has a black aura? I bet you would rather it were "white white vs white white."
    No one said it bothers anyone. Mage was just answering my point about the "reverse roles" of the reiatsu colors. Turns out it was a metaphor referring to Ichigo's will and Byakuya's pride. No one's getting racey, dude.
    We all know what he meant. You don't need to protect him. Remember this is the guy that has been known to say things like "go lie in a tub of bleach, 'cause black people aren't wanted" and "is it ok to say I hate black people".

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