But you can take a 3G phone into Japan and have International Roaming there, yes?Originally Posted by Xelbair
But you can take a 3G phone into Japan and have International Roaming there, yes?
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
"higher testosterone concentrations were observed following the period of abstinence."
Shit, no wonder my lifts have been stalling lately...
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
Higher testosterone reduces your manliness?
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
The study shows that there were raised levels of testosterone in the subjects who abstained from masturbation for 3 weeks.
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
Be a man. Do the right thing.
"Our hearts are full of memories but not all of them reflect the truth. The heart isn't a recording device. Even important memories change with time. They warp or fade, leaving us with but a shadow of what we hoped to remember." 天の道を行き、全てを司る。これは僕の世界。
Today I learned about the Just World Phenomenon.
It's pretty sad. Things like that and the Bystander Effect make me seriously depressed because it seems to be the default thought process that many people (myself included) go through.
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
I often question of the victim did something that would have caused them to be, well, "victimised", but I can not say how often that is, or if it's because I'm always presented with a "one sided" view supporting otherwise, provoking me to think of alternatives.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
I always question both sides in any case, so I also scrutinize the victim's actions or inaction in such situations. I don't feel compelled to blame the victim though. I just think it is a better practice to consider all angles instead of always rooting for the underdog or victim. Not all perceived "victims" are true victims after all.
Peace.
I tend to think this way except in a more theological sense, ie it is God's will that this person be punished/tested. But sometimes it just comes down to the fact that humans are nothing but animals and it's a dog eat dog world.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
See, I'm guilty of this too and it's exactly the line of thinking that makes it so scary depressing. That everyone is capable of shifting blame onto a victim in some misguided attempt to appear balanced in their reasoning.
The study that's cited in the Wiki link illustrates that pretty well. In each case, the woman is perceived to be responsible for her actions. Even with the different outcomes of rape and marriage, participants "logically" concluded that she had done something to deserve each.
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
But now that we've learned this and had a chance to analyze it in ourselves, it shifts the responsibility back to us, so that the next time we find ourselves in a situation where someone is being victimized we can't so easily shrug it off and walk away. It's easier to live in ignorance a lot of the time because when you take the time to really find out the truth, sometimes it forces you to act.
@Ani: I tend to think the opposite of you, in that it's God's will that people be blessed, but because of the authority given to humans and the power of free will, it allows people to override God's will and bring injustice and suffering on others.
Look at the vid, apparently it's justifiable (and even underreacting) to not only arrest someone for jaywalking of all things (lol) but also punch an innocent woman in the face for trying to separate you from accosting the person. I don't get this "holy-unable-to-sin" status that American society gives government workers and it's quite infuriating.
What would you guys do? Resist arrest too? Video tape it if you saw it being done? Try to break up the fray?
As painful as it is to say, in my opinion the best thing to do against an evil government worker is not be violent, so I would have done what the camera person did and get it all on camera (to use as evidence against the person etc.). I've done it before and it looks even worse if the person tries to steal your camera or accost you for it. The woman who got punched by no means deserved it in my opinion, but it's to be expected that she would get punched or worse for trying to defend her friend (which is a horrible truth).
Last edited by Sapphire; Mon, 06-28-2010 at 09:59 PM.
"Leaving hell is not the same as entering it." - Tierce Japhrimel
The hardest thing about deciding write and wrong with that vid is that you can't hear anything.
Were the girls verbally provoking the cop? Did he give any verbal warning to the pink girl before? That all factors in I think.
As for "holy-unable-to-sin", of course not. But one thing people have to keep in mind of is that cops are give authority for reasons of upholding the law. If you believe they've tread beyond that, you can report them - but resisting or breaking up an arrest isn't the appropriate way to say "the cop's not right".
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
If a cop tries to actually try to arrest someone for saying, say "f*ck off, f*cking pig" then his actions are really nothing other than an emotional response. If you can't handle feeling uncomfortable then you shouldn't be a cop. Look at "don't taze me bro" for instance.
I also highly doubt that the woman said anything threatening towards the police officer. It blows my mind that you think crossing the street at the wrong place (a laughable "offence" in NYC and MOST places in the US)/being rude is a justifiable reason to be arrested?
But yes, sadly, resisting a cops decision will most likely end up with pain on your end. As far as I can tell the girl wanted to be left alone, no grown woman is going to just walk past a cop and cuss at him while jaywalking. lol. Chances are she was innocently crossing the street when the cop thought "jackpot" when the cop approached her and tried to write her up or arrest her.
Edit: And as for "authority".... hate to sound like a broken record, but when the system itself is corrupt then "authority" is nothing but a title. This guy probably failed every rule in the "cop protocol" book and yet people still support his actions because of this title of "authority" that was given to him. Look at people authorizing torture in the Bush administration and shooting up small towns oversees and people still close their eyes and use the default responses of "authority," "responsibility" and "permission". Not saying you think like that Buff but it just makes me mad when "people" turn a blind eye to horrors of the world because of this assumed "right" people have over others to commit such deeds.
Last edited by Sapphire; Tue, 06-29-2010 at 12:52 AM.
"Leaving hell is not the same as entering it." - Tierce Japhrimel
Then she is still breaking the law, how petty it may seem. I don't know about US laws, but here insulting a police officer can get you arrested, so saying "fuck of, fucking pig" would've just added a second infraction.
Then there is resisting arrest, then the second girl steps in and is basically impeding an arrest and endangering the safety of multiple people.
So basically 5 laws were broken just because she didn't agree with the cop. It's better to just shut up, take the fine and just report the officer, nothing good ever comes from trying to argue the law by breaking more laws.
Wait, who's safety was being endangered? :O
Oh America, land of free speech. (Unless you're around the police)
BTW before we go assuming that she told him to "pig f*ck off" in an attempt to justify the cops actions, that was just me referring to a separate hypothetical situation. In which it would be equally emotional/stupid to arrest someone (regardless of current "law").
Edit: The only thing I really agree with you guys is the victims hand in escalating the situation. I'm not saying she was -wrong- for resisting, because I do believe she was wrongfully victimized, but there's probably not much you can do against that kind of oppression other than go limp and hope someone happens to have a camera on them (if you don't want to get slammed into a car door etc.) A sad, horrible and injustifiable truth IMO.
Last edited by Sapphire; Tue, 06-29-2010 at 02:16 AM.
"Leaving hell is not the same as entering it." - Tierce Japhrimel
Free speech is here too, it just depends on how you word it, if I said "I think you are a fucking piece of shit", the cop can't do anything. But if I just out right say "You are a piece of shit", then it's an insult.
And who's safety? Everyone who was standing around there, including the cop and the 2 girls. What if you were standing there, and the cop tried to use something like pepperspray instead of a punch, but because of the struggling you, or some other bystander, gets the spray in their face too?
Or what if more people started interfering in the situation?
Anything can be taken as an insult. Refusing to look at someone can be an insult. Come on now. Are you really going to try debate on semantics?
Oh, and another thing. If you actually watch the video, the woman was trying to get away from the cop who was pretty much manhandling her/picking her up god knows what. I mean it doesn't look pretty. Her friend comes in and just pushes them away from each other. The woman then CALMS DOWN for a split second and just stands there. It's not like the woman is going to book it as soon as she gets seperated. Clearly this woman just didn't want to be manhandled as she calmed down as soon as he let go of her.
That's when the woman who SEPARATED them gets punched in the face (and everyone and their mother says well the cop was right cuz he's a cop). Well that -definitely- deserved a punch I guess. Just looks like more reason why people should stand around and watch others get abused. Defending someone isn't endangering the safety of multiple people. If the cop wanted to do even more collateral damage and whip out pepper spray and hurt more people, its his own responsibility lol
I should emphasize: defending someone by merely seperating and offering no violence to either party
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EDIT because I'm not making a new post stating the obvious about your next post:
@DS: Considering that you think a cop would suddenly not be offended/attempt arrest at the use of "I think" + insult rather than just the insult .....yes, that is a semantics argument.
So you're blaming the effect of the cop deciding to use pepper spray, aim badly, and hit innocent people on the girl, all future events that never happened, therefore justifying the punch. "Guiltless authority" principle at it's best. Reminds me of a few military invasion justifications.
Below comment demonstrates the beautiful example of perception that "'authority' = guiltlessness" in our society.
Last edited by Sapphire; Tue, 06-29-2010 at 03:05 AM.
"Leaving hell is not the same as entering it." - Tierce Japhrimel
bitch had it coming....dont resist arrest and act like a cop is being ridiculous for doing his job, however retarded the reasons may be. As far as the cop is concerned, he just seems like a stupid rookie.....handcuff them and get it over with. wtf did you get all that training for if you cant even arrest a girl and have to wrestle with her for 5 min.
......What? Do I actually have to spell it out for you? Saying something that is insulting to the other party, where the hell are you getting semantics from? "You are a dumb asshole" is an insult, "fuck you, fucking pig" is an insult. I'm not really mentioning subjectivity here.
And if the cops whips out pepperspray, it is his problem...till it lands on some innocent bystander, which makes the girls interferance into endangering the safety.
But yeah the cop was needlessly wrestling her that long, he should've just slammed her on the hood of the car and cuffed her.
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