Itachi.Originally posted by: The Heretic Azazel
Come on, where are the people from the Sasuke/Neji thread that presented their opinions so articulately?
Your thread sucks. ( In my articulate opinion)
Itachi.Originally posted by: The Heretic Azazel
Come on, where are the people from the Sasuke/Neji thread that presented their opinions so articulately?
Your thread sucks. ( In my articulate opinion)
so you think you know him better than himself? lolOriginally posted by: The Heretic Azazel
Just because he thinks he'll be beat (he doesn't KNOW) doesn't mean he will be beat.,
there's nothing really new to debate in this thread that hasn't been debated in many other oro/jiraiya/itachi threads
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Originally posted by: Jadugar
Itachi.Originally posted by: The Heretic Azazel
Come on, where are the people from the Sasuke/Neji thread that presented their opinions so articulately?
Your thread sucks. ( In my articulate opinion)
Sorry it doesn't meet the greatness of the Kiba/Lee thread, fucker!
"They call it 'The American Dream' because you have to be asleep to believe it" - George Carlin
Very touche!
I didnt make the Kiba/Lee thread.
BTW Kiba/Lee doesnt have a great start like yours, "To your stations, soldiers".
DittoOriginally posted by: AssertnFailure
there's nothing really new to debate in this thread that hasn't been debated in many other oro/jiraiya/itachi threads
I have a feeling someone like Orochimaru would be pretty strong vs. torture and hypnotism.
Whatever Itachi did to have Orochimaru worried about not beating him before or anytime thereafter is all Itachi would have to do again.
Itachi could just show Orochimaru losing all of his jutsu. That'd be a devastative mental blow for Orochimaru. I'm sure Itachi's aware of that, as all Orochimaru talks about is acquiring every jutsu.
There's no proof that Itachi turns your particular fears against you, it's more general, like when Kakashi was caught in it.
"They call it 'The American Dream' because you have to be asleep to believe it" - George Carlin
Uh, I never said Itachi is capable of turning your worst fears against you.
Orochimaru's wanted every jutsu from who knows how long. This is why he was experimenting on making his Immortality technique. I'm sure everyone in the Akatsuki knows Orochimaru wants to possess the knowledge to enact every skill of every level, including Itachi - whose eyes Orochimaru wanted.
Since this is common knowledge of his goals, Itachi could use common sense to simply show the opposite - him losing all of them, rather than gaining all of them.
Which would pretty much be Oro's worst fear since his cause in life is to attain every jutsu.
I don't think Itachi can just show people ANYTHING he wants to, just put them in a fucked up situation that their minds can't handle. It's that innate fear of death that the typical Mangekyou victim's mind succumbs to. But showing Oro scenes of death or giving him the illusion that he is being stabbed repeatedly might only make Oro aroused. I don't think he's afraid to die.
Orochimaru: 5 [BioAlien, Xanbcoo, The Heretic Azazel, Vasco, Edort4]
Uchiha Itachi: 8 [Heero, el_boss, Shinda, darkmetal505, Psyke, Strider, isso, Jadugar]
The only vague vote was Necromas. Where do you stand?
"They call it 'The American Dream' because you have to be asleep to believe it" - George Carlin
Are you serious?Originally posted by: The Heretic Azazel
I don't think Itachi can just show people ANYTHING he wants to, just put them in a fucked up situation that their minds can't handle.
If it's an innate fear of death that the Mangekyou brings out, why did Sasuke see his parents and family's murder? Sasuke never considered suicide, and how can dead relatives kill you? That was simply a psychological trauma and shock. Nothing to do with fearing death.
I cannot recall the Manga Chapter. However, I'm quite sure it's Episode 82 in the animated series. Watch it. Please.
In the meantime, while Kakashi is crucified, Itachi clearly states (something along these lines), "In this world of Tsukiyomi, I control everything. Time, space and the events are all up to me."
Everything in that realm of those caught within Tsukiyomi are victim to anything Itachi could conjure up, which is why it's possible for Itachi to show Orochimaru losing all of his jutsu. It is also stated that while it is simply an illusion, the pain is indeed extremely real as it's continual stress being placed onto the brain. Kakashi is unable to take the pain any longer, breaks down and falls into unconsciousness.
Orochimaru may be strong, but being repeatedly stabbed, regardless of who you are, is a tough feat to cope with. Especially considering the pain is anything negligible.
I have seen this format somewhere, oh yes. here.Originally posted by: The Heretic Azazel
Orochimaru: 5 [BioAlien, Xanbcoo, The Heretic Azazel, Vasco, Edort4]
Uchiha Itachi: 8 [Heero, el_boss, Shinda, darkmetal505, Psyke, Strider, isso, Jadugar]
@ The Heretic Azazel : If you are serious about the topic then lets hear your winning scenario.
Of course I used the format, how the hell else am I supposed to score it?
I'll post when I'm not busy getting high.
"They call it 'The American Dream' because you have to be asleep to believe it" - George Carlin
after a few years orochimaru will take over itachi's body for no reason while's he's sleeping. After getting his body he dies from touching himself too much and masterbation [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img] = DRAW
ty psj for this sig
Itachi kicks ass
itachi of course......
You know what I'd say?
Orochimaru = Itachi = Jiraiya
That's the bottom line.
Itachi can kick Orochimaru like nothing
Meh, this looks fairly amusing.
I'd say Itachi, at this point, considering Orochimaru's condition and all.
Though I say Itachi, I still believe Orochimaru to be the better villain, what with the staying power, greater ambition, etc, etc. I think that poor Akatsuki, I-killed-my-family poster boy hit his low point by giving Sasuke the thumbs up to his own eventually possible defeat.
KIMOCHI~II