POLL : Kakashi or Itachi?

**aznroyale** · Thu, 10-20-2005, 10:14 PM

Originally posted by: Necromas
Itachi = afraid of Jiraya

Orochimaru = Powerful opponent for Jiraya

thus...

Orochimaru > Itachi

WHAT?!?!? you meant

Itachi > Orochimaru

***kAi*** · Thu, 10-20-2005, 10:14 PM

Kakashi is better than Itachi, Itachi is an emotionless void, has nothing, he is a boring character.

Kakashi on the other hand is laid back, funny, does weird things, and can be serious when he needs to be, otherwise ihe isn't.

**aznroyale** · Thu, 10-20-2005, 10:18 PM

hell yeah hes emtionless

**The Heretic Azazel** · Thu, 10-20-2005, 10:52 PM

Originally posted by: aznroyale

Originally posted by: Necromas
Itachi = afraid of Jiraya

Orochimaru = Powerful opponent for Jiraya

thus...

Orochimaru > Itachi

WHAT?!?!? you meant

Itachi > Orochimaru

You're totally wrong, Oro would destroy Itachi.

**el_boss** · Fri, 10-21-2005, 08:18 AM

I think Itachi looks like a girl. Kakashi is easily the coolest, his hair is awesome, he has a ninja mask(?), he mysteriously has one sharingan, he is a closet pervert, he kicks everyones ass using only one eye most of the time.

**vasco** · Fri, 10-21-2005, 08:44 AM

This time, I will void my vote on both...

No matter how 'cool' they are...
1> Kakashi lose to Itachi so 'uncool'
2> Itachi need to run away from Jiraya (uncool as well)

AS this thread got to vote one of this 2, i got to void my vote this time... otherwise, i will vote for Tsunade, because she did not run away from orochimaru and protect Naruto..

EDIT
By the way, COOL or not is not base on power or skill or anything, is how he/she act! For example, Shikamaru is cool as well, but he almost lose every battle. ^_^

**Strider** · Fri, 10-21-2005, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by: Necromas
Itachi = afraid of Jiraya

Orochimaru = Powerful opponent for Jiraya

thus...

Orochimaru > Itachi

What does this have to do with anything?

Kakashi or Itachi ..

Itachi isn't cool. He's simply badass. So, Kakashi wins by default.

**XanBcoo** · Fri, 10-21-2005, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by: vasco
By the way, COOL or not is not base on power or skill or anything, is how he/she act! For example, Shikamaru is cool as well, but he almost lose every battle. ^_^

In that case your point here is pretty invalid 0.o

1> Kakashi lose to Itachi so 'uncool'

Kakashi is cooler. Accept it [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

**Strider** · Fri, 10-21-2005, 11:42 AM

Originally posted by: vasco
2> Itachi need to run away from Jiraya (uncool as well)

"Run and hide for today. Live to fight another day."

Or however the saying goes, but you get the jist of my point.

Better to run, than possibly die. Especially after using so many high-power techniques.

That isn't uncool, it's smart.

In addition, and off-topic, considering Jiraiya's summoned the toughest portion of the Mountain Toad's stomach as his strongest defense, and Itachi was able to penetrate that with Amaterasu .. I think Jiraiya got off lucky.

**vasco** · Fri, 10-21-2005, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by: Strider
"Run and hide for today. Live to fight another day."
...
That isn't uncool, it's smart.
In addition, and off-topic, considering Jiraiya's summoned the toughest portion of the Mountain Toad's stomach as his strongest defense, and Itachi was able to penetrate that with Amaterasu .. I think Jiraiya got off lucky.

I agree Itachi is smart, but it does not mean cool... if you say smart = cool, then the smartest girl ( Sakura) is most cool?

off topic talk:
but Itachi had said, we at most can make him die with us, something like that, how can you say Jiraiya got off lucky? By the way, Jiraiya said, 'I will finish you 2 right here, right now' (something like that)

Back to topic
If Itachi really so cool, then he should finish Sasuke and Kakashi (yes, i know, it won't happen) by one clean and clear hit, instead of toying their mind (or you told me toying someone mind is cool?)

By the way, Kakashi is not cool neither... he only can act cool when the enemy is weaker then him... When he vs Itachi, how uncool he is...

**Strider** · Fri, 10-21-2005, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by: vasco
I agree Itachi is smart, but it does not mean cool... if you say smart = cool, then the smartest girl ( Sakura) is most cool?

Stop.

You're taking my words too literally.

By saying his actions are not uncool, does not automatically make it cool -- despite the double negative that would suggest otherwise that I have going on there in that statement.

There are shades of grey and happy medians.

Originally posted by: vasco
off topic talk:
but Itachi had said, we at most can make him die with us, something like that, how can you say Jiraiya got off lucky? By the way, Jiraiya said, 'I will finish you 2 right here, right now' (something like that)

Jiraiya knew nothing about Mangekyou when that statement was made. Revisit those scenes again.

When Sasuke fell into his catatonic state from the agony of Tsukiyomi, Jiraiya was dumbfounded. As Gai arrived, he could only explain that Sasuke fell into that state from something Itachi had done. In addition, Jiraiya had no idea what to think of Amaterasu, aside from the fact that it is incredibly strong considering it tore through the toughest portion of the Mountain Toad's stomach without a moment's notice.

So, yes. I meant to type it. It wasn't an error.

Jiraiya got off lucky.

Originally posted by: vasco
Back to topic
If Itachi really so cool, then he should finish Sasuke and Kakashi (yes, i know, it won't happen) by one clean and clear hit, instead of toying their mind (or you told me toying someone mind is cool?)

By the way, Kakashi is not cool neither... he only can act cool when the enemy is weaker then him... When he vs Itachi, how uncool he is...

When you're a villain, toying with your enemy is in the "How to be a Villain Handbook." And, doing so is definitely cool, when you have ample amounts of skill and power like Itachi does. He needs to kill of Sasuke. That's all I'll agree on.

And, Kakashi is definitely cool. He's mellow and more times than naught, very calm and collected.

In his arrival on the scene with Itachi, Kakashi personified cool. He came in with a Kage Bunshin, and a kunai to Itachi's back saying something like, "Yes. It's over .. for you." Gangsta. Granted, Kakashi already knew he was nowhere near Itachi's level, he entered the battlefield ready and willing.

***masamuneehs*** · Fri, 10-21-2005, 04:55 PM

Kakashi is the coolest so far because (and this is only for the anime viewers) we don't know his backstory and so he seems so much more mysterious. While Itachi is just a really self-obsessed butthole who has no allegiance to anything or anyone. I also feel that Kakashi's mellowness is totally better than Itachi's villain act. I just find laid back characters that much more bad-ass because I start imagining what it might be like if they tried hard or got infuriated.

**Strider** · Fri, 10-21-2005, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by: masamuneehs
I just find laid back characters that much more bad-ass because I start imagining what it might be like if they tried hard or got infuriated.

Word.

If Kakashi actually got upset we might see a few of his alleged thousand jutsu.

Kakashi is definitely cool, and more so above Itachi.

**Jadugar** · Fri, 10-21-2005, 05:24 PM

Universal Fact : Kakashi is cool.

@ Strider : I just thought of another fight, Vasco vs Strider.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

**Strider** · Fri, 10-21-2005, 05:26 PM

He doesn't want any. (insert pose here!)

'Sides, I'd tag in Assertn halfway through considering the delight he gets from battling with him. Heh.

**Jadugar** · Fri, 10-21-2005, 05:34 PM

Itachi : Welcome to the MS club. Kakashi!
Kakashi : Whatever, bitch.

@ Strider : You can tag along whoever you want, he can take on all of you alone.
fight renamed : VASCO vs Strider & Co

**Strider** · Fri, 10-21-2005, 05:42 PM

Pft! It would not go down like that, at all ..

[ Kakashi ]: Sorry, I'm late. But, can I join the Mangekyou Sharingan club now?
[ Itachi ]: 'Eh?

[ Kakashi ]: Oh! You didn't notice, Itachi-kun? Your eyesight must be getting ba --

[ Itachi ]: Wait a second. That's a damn contact. Get the fuck outta here, you reject.

(In the following scenes Kakashi is owned by Dead Body Bunshin Itachi Lookalike no Jutsu)

And, this battle is not renamed. Not yet, anyway ..

Such an instigator. Heh.

**Jadugar** · Fri, 10-21-2005, 06:04 PM

Kakashi needs to develop his MS. We might get to see him fighting Itachi or assisting Sasuke in some way.

Fight Preview
Vasco vs Strider & Co

Strider : Hakke 64
Vasco : Vascingan
Strider : WTF!

Vasco : Foolish Strider. If you wish to kill me, bone me, praise me, and get aids in an unsightly way, crawl and then run and cling to Assertn.

**vasco** · Fri, 10-21-2005, 08:26 PM

I take care the 'Jadugar set-up' fight later
just want to prove Jiraiya is stronger then Itachi
ep 83 8:51
Kisame: Perhaps you can fight him evenly... but I cannot, he is too strong
I: yes. If we both fought him, we would both be killed, or in a good case, we might kill him, but we'd die along with him. Even if we had more men, that result would not change.
ep 84 4:25
Jiraiya: Very well, I will get rid of you two here.
And, Itachi need to rest after he use the eye (something like god of sun's eye), so uncool...

The same go to Kakashi... Told other not to look at Itachi eye, but he act 'cool' and look at Itachi eye, so what he end up... uncool face

**heero** · Fri, 10-21-2005, 09:33 PM

u know whats uncool? arguing about who is cool and who is not.

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