Huh...this is unfortunate. It's unfortunate when familiar faces that were welcome and have been around for awhile dissappear because of "e-drama" or what they percieve to be a decline in the community of people frequenting a forum. Personally, much of the things mentioned in Y's post doesn't bother me. I have this amazing ability to select the users who's posts I read, and a pretty good ability to scan rapidly through bullshit. Again, its unfortunate you guys feel this way, but your positions are clean and justified, from what I'm reading here anyway. So, I guess there's nothing left to say but Goodbye. Take it easy guys.