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    Bakakozou Blood 22+ is out HERE haha DERN IT someone else posted it ... DOH
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    It was a really good episode. Much needed background info of Saya and Hagi's past. Quite conclusively indeed. It was an interesting past, to say the least.

    Edit: Oh, and obviously it also revealed something very interesting about Saya's inherent powers. She's not at all just a killing machine, and she's probably very similar to Diva, in the end. I wonder if it's only her personality that separates her from Diva.
    Yeah, this was a nice flashback episode. I also wonder when was it that Saya let Diva out. Was it before or after the fire. I would also think that the one that destroyed the castle was Amschel with some sort of devious plan. He probably secured some of Diva's or Saya's blood in clandestine and used it on himself, then he killed off everyone. That's my take on what happened, I don't think it was Diva.

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    I've only seen the first six episodes, but it seemed kinda cool. When I have more time on my hands, I'm sure I'll watch the rest.

    I just love the quality of the drawing. ^_^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Budweineken
    Yeah, this was a nice flashback episode. I also wonder when was it that Saya let Diva out. Was it before or after the fire. I would also think that the one that destroyed the castle was Amschel with some sort of devious plan. He probably secured some of Diva's or Saya's blood in clandestine and used it on himself, then he killed off everyone. That's my take on what happened, I don't think it was Diva.
    Well, we should find out soon enouph. That is accualy my theory as well. I really liked to backstory, but I wish that Saya would remember a little more.


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    Man Hagi was such a little punk. So it was something to do with Diva that destroyed their home. I want to know how Saya ended up at George's house and when she goes crazy.

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    This ep just made Hagi more hardcore.

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    Ho, it looks like Diva pretty much torpedoed whatever hope Solomon might have had of acquiring Saya to their side.

    I had been kind of wondering why the script kept dragging Riku along with the rest of them for such a long time. This episode certainly explained what his role was destined to be.

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    bah, I was hoping Riku would turn into a Chiroptera and Saya would have to kill him (although it might still happen...), but this isn't bad either.

    Solomon rocks. A bad guy who actually tries to reason with the main character, and not along the lines of 'And we shall rule the world together! Mwhahaha!' is hard to come by. He made her siding with the Chevalier sound totally plausible. I will bet the bank that he saves Saya's life and gets killed because of it though... always seems to happen to those kinds of baddies. And besides, he loves Saya but there's Hagi who (as this episode shows) has a much stronger bond with her.

    Kai is ultra-annoying now. I'm interested in what Collins is up to...
    pretty good episodes. This show might have some dull moments, but the plot is well-thought out and delivered pretty damn well.

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    Very interesting indeed. Any theories on why Riku can hear Diva's song. That Red Shield guy commented on Riku being different in some way but it wasn't fleshed out. I don't think he's come into contact with Saya's blood but i'm not sure.

    Something else to note, if Saya is the elder, why is she so weak compared to all the serious adversaries in the show? Diva's Chevaliers all seem to have many more abilities than Hagi; death ball, transmutation of body, etc... Unless he's been holding back on us Hagi seems like a pretty crappy Chevalier. And Saya, though she's probobly nowhere near her peak, doesn't even seem to be a match for her own Chevalier, who she made with her own blood! Hopefully as time goes on she'll come into her own more, perhaps a crisis of humanity will occur later on, and she'll get a power boost. From what I gathered Saya and Diva were born of a mother that was a creation, so it can't be that Diva was just created to be more more nasty and powerful.

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    Riku took some part in the experiments in Vietnam, if i remember correctly. While that girl he was with turned almost into a Chiroptera, Riku was only able to hear Diva's song. He was not put under its control or driven mad. But I always thought something about him being in those experiments would play out sooner or later.

    Saya is weaker because her will is weaker. Diva and all the Chevalier have serious determination (and are consciously aware of their battle experience, giving them an additional edge in tactics and such), while it appears Saya is only acting off her ingrained instincts/suppressed memories. It is interesting also to note that Saya actively fights AGAINST those abilities, not wanting to turn into 'some kind of monster', while the Chevalier and Diva seem to harbor no qualms with it.

    I also like the thought about Diva, because she was made after, was a superior creation to the first one, Saya. Never considered it that way at all...

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    Good episode. The only thing i dislike about this series is the fact that just about anyone can kick the shit out of Saya. I mean everyone else is super talented in fights.

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    I'm sure by the end of the series we will see the return of 60's Saya's determination, as well as some Movie/Vietnam combat abilities, albeit controlled instead of battle enraged.

    I still can't seem to believe that Saya and Diva are of the kind of Chiroptera's that become this grotesque war-form that the others all do. I can't help but believe they are *more* than the ordinary Chiroptera's, even more so than the Chevalier types. One would think that Saya, when Berserk in Vietnam, would have gone into a monsterous form if she could have.

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    I thought Riku could hear Chioptera and Diva from the beginning. He may have been another person's experiment before he came into the family.

    I wonder if he wil turn in the uber-chiropteran. It may be cool to see if it does occur.

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    Riku was born human, just like Kai.
    Again, you need to go back to the episodes in Vietnam when Riku was captured. It seemed pretty evident that all the children he were with had been used in some expirement turning them into Chiroptera. They were all humming Diva's song and obeying her commands.

    Riku had just not been through enough experiments to turn into a complete Chiroptera, but it isn't like he was born that way or anything. Some people have the memory of a fish...

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    Quote Originally Posted by masamuneehs
    Riku was born human, just like Kai.
    Again, you need to go back to the episodes in Vietnam when Riku was captured. It seemed pretty evident that all the children he were with had been used in some expirement turning them into Chiroptera. They were all humming Diva's song and obeying her commands.

    Riku had just not been through enough experiments to turn into a complete Chiroptera, but it isn't like he was born that way or anything. Some people have the memory of a fish...
    During the Saya’s battle with the Chitopera (the one that was George’s friend—I forgot his name), only Riku noticed the sound the Chiropteran made. This led me to believe that Riku is different from the other normal humans. From this knowledge, I made the assumption stated in my previous post.

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    He might have had a drink of Saya's blood at some point and time . I really don't know how Saya is going to stand up to 5 Chevaliers, especially since they are all stronger than Haji (or so it seems). Saya's blood just seems to kill the Chiropterans that were made by Diva's blood, so Saya should go and feed her blood to random people so she has her own army. That would be kick ass. A batte of Chevaliers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woofcat
    Good episode. The only thing i dislike about this series is the fact that just about anyone can kick the shit out of Saya. I mean everyone else is super talented in fights.

    Heh, and then if Saya starts kicking the ass of everyone you would be complaining that you don't like the series because Saya is overpowered and she kicks everyone's ass. Seriously, animes can never win against the viewers.

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    I wonder if Kai will end up as a chevalier for Saya, or offer to become one. Probably not, but that could be interesting. After reading the diary he should know how the chevaliers were born, though. And there is some slight symmetry between him and Hagi. Such a thing wouldn't fit the traditional story format, I suppose, but anime does have the capacity to surprise.

    Well, considering the current happenings Riku might make a better candidate, but I surely wouldn't like to see that. It would just turn too traditional. And I never liked Riku's character, either. I never like useless, wannabe victim kiddies in series...

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    I bet ya RIKU is gonna become the most SUPER POWERED Chevalier and when he does hie transformation will be into a GIANT Dracula MECHA with BLOOD Lasers and Bat bombs which explode and flood the area with bats and suck the blood out of his enemies untill they are so weak that they cannot run from the BLOOS LASERS

    Either that or Riku will go Super Vamparic Chipoterian Sayin mode and beat the crap out of Diva

    But this is all just speculation tho

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