Aeon is right. He doesn't transfer his soul.
With his memory, he retains everything (jutsu, skill, etc), except for a good body - which heero just explained.
Aeon is right. He doesn't transfer his soul.
With his memory, he retains everything (jutsu, skill, etc), except for a good body - which heero just explained.
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
If he just tranfer the mind, everytime, when he transfer his body, he need to cut his old body and get his sowrd back, and eat it back....
- may be (eeee.....)
When one summon an animal, s/he needs to have the contract with the animal with the blood... As orochimaru only transfer his mind, no soul, there is no way the contract can realize the "stranger", so orochimaru need to re-make the contract?
- may be, the the scroll will full of his name soon (smile)
If he just transfer his mind, why he need to wait for 3 years? (Ino seem can do it everyday), It does not make sence if it is only the mind without the soul.
but in his mind he also has the knowledge of altering his physical appearance to resemble what he used to be...hence why his body always has the normal orochimaru qualities despite the body being different. This probably includes characteristics such as long tongue, sword, blood type (for summons) etc. Just think of it as a more permanent form of henge.
However, if he can obtain a bloodlimit, he can combine it with this henge of his
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Sorry Assertn, even I'm not buying that. A henge does not change one's blood, just their appearance. Just because he looks like his old body, doesn't mean that he's in his old body. Doesn't make sense to me for him to keep his old blood.
However, we know that he keeps the summons in SOME way or another, because when we saw him summon the snakes and Manda, he was not in his "original" body (he was in that girl/boy's).
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
And on that note, whose damn body was he in before he got this guy? Sounds like it should have been someone of some significance, if I remembver right, when Oro showed the girl's face, Sarutobi looked pretty surprised. Maybe because he didn't know Oro had obtained the immortality jutsu though.
"They call it 'The American Dream' because you have to be asleep to believe it" - George Carlin
I don't think the body of that Grass Shinobi was anyone important, at all. Sarutobi-Sensei simply did not realize Orochimaru had completed the immortality jutsu.
In regards to his arms being able to move .. I don't know. I think it's just one of those many inconsistencies that people can find in anime series, and the creators / producers hope others forget about.
Ya, I think he just transferred his mind and that soul which is in the body he occupies then becomes his. It doesn't make much sense, or perhaps after a certain time his arms will start to decay again???? [img]i/expressions/beer.gif[/img]
jeeze that's a lotta thinking. if u want soemthing a bit more practical and realistic, try this:
the 3rd used his ultimate technique to seal Orochimaru's arms within the dying geizer. he took the arms, but i'm more than sure the part cut off wasn't the ENTIRE arm. and by the way, the hands were SEALED, not "have its soul eaten", thought that's what it looks like. The curse seems to be a mental-curse more than a physical because Oro's mind moves on, and the curse stays. He left his soul after his first switch, and his hands have been sealed. i'm sure he can still raise his arm, and that seems logic.
if it takes three years before he can transfer again, how did he transfer to the person in the forest of death when he gave sasuke the cursed seal, to the girl, and to the new guy in a matter of a few months? plot hole!
I'm pretty sure he transferred there quite a bit ago.
"They call it 'The American Dream' because you have to be asleep to believe it" - George Carlin
huh? when did i say anything about changing your blood? oro doesnt want HIS blood, he wants SASUKE'SOriginally posted by: XanBcoo
Sorry Assertn, even I'm not buying that. A henge does not change one's blood, just their appearance. Just because he looks like his old body, doesn't mean that he's in his old body. Doesn't make sense to me for him to keep his old blood.
However, we know that he keeps the summons in SOME way or another, because when we saw him summon the snakes and Manda, he was not in his "original" body (he was in that girl/boy's).
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
I was referring to when you said this:Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
huh? when did i say anything about changing your blood? oro doesnt want HIS blood, he wants SASUKE'S
Yes, he wants Sasuke's "blood", but that doesn't explain how/why he still has his summons (for which his own blood is needed)....hence why his body always has the normal orochimaru qualities despite the body being different....This probably includes characteristics such as long tongue, sword, blood type (for summons) etc. Just think of it as a more permanent form of henge.
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
I can only offer an explanation to why Orochimaru retains his summons:
Perhaps the blood used in a summon jutsu is merely the link between the Summoned Entity and the Summoner? The particular blood lets the Summoned Thing know who is trying to summon it, sort of a proof of authenticity to summon it...
The blood is filled with the chakra of the Summoner, letting it ID the soul of the Summoner. Oro can put his soul into various bodies (he may even be changing the makeup of the possessed body's blood...) and thus his Soul would still be present in the blood of the 'vessel', despite it not being his own.
(though this is directly contradicted by Naruto summoning Gama-bunta, the Frog Boss. The Frog Boss did not know Naruto and was quite pissed to be summoned by him... This suggests that the blood is more like a homing becon in the living world to which the Summoned Entity will be attracted, manifesting at the blood spot)
Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".
Perhaps, sounds logical.
I guess we just need more info on how the Kuchiyose works.
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
blood type is just a physical characteristic of blood. What makes it different from say, your skin type?
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
When he takes over a new body, his old body doesn't dissapear, it merges with the new body, keeping the beneficial old characteristics (tongue, blood, etc...) but gaining beneficial characteristics from the new body (youth, more strength, sharingan, etc...).
P.S. He didn't do the body transfer with the grass shinobi, he simply used a technique that steals the persons face and allows you to disguise as them.
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