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    Sasuke VS Neji

    Why do people keep saying Sasuke is a long-range fighter?

    He's not.

    He's not he's not he's not he's not he's not.
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    Sasuke VS Neji

    If both of them fight to kill the other, Neji wins, assuming he doesn't just stand back and touch himself while Sasuke slowly changes into Curse Seal 2 form. If Sasuke immediately busts out the Chidori, Neji can probably deflect it enough so that it doesn't strike him fatally - as he did with Kidoumaru's arrow - or maybe even shoot him in the face with his ranged chakra attack as he charges forward.

    If Neji hits Sasuke even once with the intent to kill him, he will die. Neji fucking blows up your internal organs. You don't mess around with that shit.

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    Here's my breakdown:

    Sasuke attacks with ninjutsu, but none of his powers are strong enough to break the Kaiten. Neji gets close and blows him to pieces.

    Sasuke uses the Curse Seal. Neji calmly walks over while he is transforming and kills him. Curse Seal is retarded in a 'realistic' battle.

    Sasuke uses Chidori. Neji blocks or deflects it with Kaiten and then touches him in the side as he recovers, blowing up his heart.

    Sasuke uses the Sharingan and goes in close. This would honestly be his best plan, but Neji can force him into medium range pretty easily by just doing Kaiten, then shoot him with the chakra projectile attack (he can't predict that move).

    I don't see Neji winning in a total blowout, and if Sasuke gets in close and starts beating on him he could go down pretty fast. I give the vote to Neji because Sasuke has too many weak or unpractical powers for this situation.

    Now of course if it's within the context of another battle in the show, Neji loses because Sasuke is a more important main character then Neji is.

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    Your breakdown is kinda lame.

    First assumptiom :
    Sasuke would let Neji come in close contact.

    Second assumption :
    Sasuke leaves himself to an open attack while going lv2.

    Third assumption :
    Chidori is deflected by Kaiten.

    Mother of all ridiculous Assumptions :
    Originally posted by: Y
    Neji can force him into medium range pretty easily by just doing Kaiten

    You wanna hear my assumption, here it is . Sasuke will win.

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    Sasuke VS Neji

    Damn this discussion is still going on!!! When will it end? This shit doesn't matter anymore cuz in the end Bill Cosbys gonna own everyone with his signature Jelly Pudding face wit the wide eyes.

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    Sasuke VS Neji

    I thought you were dead. Welcome back. This thread has been heating up. Already 205 replies. 34 threads in this this "Naruto Open Discussion" and this one tops them all.

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    Come on now you know doctors don't die they heal people and take there money [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img] And of course I'm right about Bill Cosby you can't help but to look at him no matter what he crazy

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    Sasuke VS Neji

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    Originally posted by: Strider
    Originally posted by: heero
    Thats not exactly true. In the fight between Neji and Kidomaru, Kidomaru said it himself that he was scared he might be hit from Neji's attack because it can stop his chakra flow. Also, I remember Sasuke saying that the seal just releases his chakra to his full potential. Never said it gives him another chakra flow. Otherwise it wouldnt hurt him at all to use it.
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    Did you even read anything that has been posted here? I never said anything about giving him another chakra flow. I said that the curse seal will provide him with such large amount of chakra that it will just unblock all the tenketsu points just like how Naruto did. Do you understand it now?

    Sasuke did not outlast Naruto because he had more chakra. He outlasted our number one surprise ninja because Sasuke actually hit Naruto with his signature power move. With all the pain Sasuke was already in from simply transgressing to that state of the Level 2 Curse Seal, I doubt there'd be much of him had Rasengan connected against flesh.

    In addition, Sasuke was complaining about not being able to remain in that second seal form almost as soon as he entered it. At that point, Naruto had already been all Kyuubi'd out, and showing Sasuke how strong the pimp hand was.

    So, I am not totally understanding your equation as to how Sasuke outlasted Naruto.
    Sasuke did outlast Naruto because he had more chakra. The way the kyuubi rasengan vs curse seal chidori was set up was to show that which move was stronger. And how was this set up? They intensified the level of power of each move by throwing in the curse seal and kyuubi chakra to boost them up. Get it? You need to stop limiting Sasuke's abilities by referring only to the pre-time skip Sasuke. And who cares about Sasuke being in pain from transforming to level 2? That should be completely irrelevant to this topic. There's nothing difficult to understand in what I've said.

    Also, 64 Palms of Hakke and Kaiten are bloodline abilities. Last I checked, Sharingan cannot aid much against these. Otherwise, Sasuke would have known which mirror Haku was truly in from the beginning.
    Sharingan does aid A LOT in again'st Neji's hakke because Neji's hakke is no more than a simple close quarter combat technique that require no seals or extra abilities to perform. The only reason why it's effective for a Hyuuga to use hakke is because their ability to see the tenketsu points. There should be no reason why a random ninja wouldn't be able to perform the hakke. Granted, the results won't be the same but hakke is just a simple technique. Since hakke is just a regular punch-punch move, Sasuke can see every movement with his sharingan just like he could do with Naruto's taijutsu attacks. And again, stop limiting Sasuke's abilities to the pre-time skip Sasuke.

    Didn't notice this post, as I was quoting while going over the numerous pages I've missed.

    The spiders did not penetrate. The webs were leeching onto the projected chakra, basically sapping it. There was no longer a dome of chakra due to Neji slowing down, and portions of that chakra being removed by the web, which created the openings for the spiders to make direct contact and temporarily immobilize Neji.

    Either way, Sharingan isn't cutting it in this area.
    Listen, nearly ALL of Neji's moves are just no more than taijutsu moves that have a different result. Everyone else can spin in circles like Neji can, but can they deflect things like Neji? No, The only difference between a regular ninja who is performing "kaiten" and Neji is the fact that Neji can emit large amounts of chakra from every part of his body. In the end, Neji's kaiten is ultimately just a spin move. Sasuke can see him spinning in slow motion. That just means bad news for Neji.

    I agree with Neji not being faster than Kyuubi Naruto. At least, not in his "One-tail" mode, during the final bout with Sasuke.

    However, in the eyes of Sharingan .. Neji might as well be faster than Naruto. Naruto's movements, that were captured in your "Enter the Matrix" Focus vision, were influenced by chakra. You're so caught up in the manga (rightfully so), you should recall that Sasuke even states this. So, referring back to previous statements, due to the motions of Kyuubi Naruto being fueled by the demon's chakra, the Sharingan was able to quickly see that, break it down, and apply a viable counter-resolution for it. Neji speed is based on his own power. His own muscular fortitude. This, like Lee's speed, is based on stamina - which is not so easily broken down by the Sharingan. As explained after Sasuke caught an open-toed sandal to his jaw by Lee. And, surely that was eons ago and Sasuke has progressed a while since then, but the principle still remains. If the speed is too great, the Sharingan proves useless.
    You jus made that whole thing up. Great.

    Sasuke's speed is a fraction of unweighted Lee's, and cannot be maintained for the duration Lee can. Lee's speed was nothing to Neji, during the greatest bout in the series [Lee v. Gaara], until the gates were unleashed, and that speed there .. well, we do not even need to go into that. Sasuke isn't there.

    My point is that Sasuke isn't faster than Neji, or Lee. Neji's seen Lee's speed. He's battled it, and overwhelmed it. Lee's speed was nothing to Neji, which is why the only salvation for Lee would be to take it many levels above with Ura Renge.
    Sasuke's inifinitely better than Lee. Lee already admitted it.

    This is opinion, over fact.

    Kidoumaru is much more suited for combat against Neji. So, while Sasuke may be so much more powerful, his fighting style isn't adapted to overcome Neji.
    That's just opinion over fact also. Sasuke should rape Neji considering Neji is just a taijutsu user without extraordinary speed like Gai.

    Neji was surprised by Ura Renge, nothing prior, especially his speed. Neji and TenTen were there, as Gai attempted to teach all three of them Omote Renge. Neji knows what was necessary for it. No surprises there. And, with his arrogance, you don't think Neji did what he could to still best Lee's technique?

    How can you justify the initial gate as enough to defeat Neji, when Gai taught Lee to open more? Gai knew opening more and moving that much more faster was the only way around Neji's Byakugan and speed.

    And, Gai forbidding Lee in opening gates is nothing since we saw Lee break that promise twice. In his attempts to beat Neji, there's no doubt he's done it before. And, still lost.
    I honestly believe that Lee could've beaten Neji after opening 5 gates or however many he opened against Gaara. Lee would never use the gates on his fellow teammates, that's just my thought. I'm never wrong anyway.

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    Sasuke VS Neji

    Mut, we're referring to Pre-time jump Sasuke because we have no fucking clue what post-time jump Sasuke is like. Refer to Strider and Assertn's "incomplete variable" argument.

    Sasuke can see him spinning in slow motion. That just means bad news for Neji.
    I don't see your point here. Even if Sasuke can see Neji spinning, there's still assloads of Chakra coming out and he'd still get hit.

    You jus made that whole thing up. Great.
    No he didn't. But Sharingan's "weakness" against Taijutsu is only relevant when copying. As in, if the opponent is moving faster than you, it doesn't matter if you can copy it, you're gonna get fucked. In any case, Sasuke is fast enough to keep up with Neji.

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    Originally posted by: Mut@chiSharingan does aid A LOT in again'st Neji's hakke because Neji's hakke is no more than a simple close quarter combat technique that require no seals or extra abilities to perform. The only reason why it's effective for a Hyuuga to use hakke is because their ability to see the tenketsu points. There should be no reason why a random ninja wouldn't be able to perform the hakke. Granted, the results won't be the same but hakke is just a simple technique. Since hakke is just a regular punch-punch move, Sasuke can see every movement with his sharingan just like he could do with Naruto's taijutsu attacks. And again, stop limiting Sasuke's abilities to the pre-time skip Sasuke.
    Now you're putting limiters on Neji...the fact is, sure anyone could strike like that 64 times, but without the ability to see the tenketsu and subsequently stop/reverse an opponents chakra flow, without Jyuuken, it's pointless.

    Did you even read anything that has been posted here? I never said anything about giving him another chakra flow. I said that the curse seal will provide him with such large amount of chakra that it will just unblock all the tenketsu points just like how Naruto did. Do you understand it now?
    I just don't buy this, Naruto's chakra shut down so the fox's took over. Naruto should not have been able to move, and thanks to the fox, just like when Sasuke drove Naruto on his head and punctured his heart, Naruto was "resurrected" and fighting with a power that his body only sees when he's in grave danger. In Sasuke's case, the seal forcibly extracts his chakra, so his capacity is of course immense. Yes, there's quite a difference between Kidoumaru's seal and Sasuke's, but Kido knew he was going to get fucked up, and he fought a far smarter battle than probably anyone in the series. Kido's seal extracted his chakra just the same, and he knew he had to avoid Hakke. The power gap between Kyuubi and Sasuke's seal is immeasurable; it's almost as if Kyuubi has endless power, while the seal allows Sasuke to fight to the most of his potential. With that said, despite that immense chakra capacity Sasuke now has, it is still weaker than Kyuubi's power and while I am not ruling out Sasuke's ability to unblock his tenketsu, I think that was an extremely rare and special circumstance when naruto survived Hakke.
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    Originally posted by: Jadugar
    Your breakdown is kinda lame.

    First assumptiom :
    Sasuke would let Neji come in close contact.

    Second assumption :
    Sasuke leaves himself to an open attack while going lv2.

    Third assumption :
    Chidori is deflected by Kaiten.

    Mother of all ridiculous Assumptions :
    Originally posted by: Y
    Neji can force him into medium range pretty easily by just doing Kaiten
    Counterpoints:
    In my first scenario Sasuke attempts his non-Chidori ninjutsu and they fail. What is he gonna fucking do after that, use them some more like a retard? No, he'll go to either Chidori or move into close combat because those are the other options, and I discussed those.

    Sasuke stands motionless wihle transforming as everyone stares at him. This happens every time for every transformation ANYONE does EVER. In a straight up fight you can't sit down, scream for 30 seconds while you go SSJ2 and then beat the shit out of your opponent. Since every time Sasuke has transformed he has left himself totally open, I can safely assume he'd do it again. In a "realistic" scenario Sasuke would either transform before the fight started, or not use it at all. If he transformed before the fight began it would be significantly harder for Neji, but since Sasuke burns off his power so fast it'd be easier for Neji to play the waiting game.

    The only similar situation we have is Kidoumaru's arrow - a high speed straightforward attack that Neji was unable to dodge. The rotational force that the Kaiten emits will force Sasuke's hand off course just like it did with the arrow, in my opinion.

    Lastly, how the fuck is Sasuke gonna stay in close range when Neji turns on the Kaiten? Stand still in the spinning vortex of chakra as it rips his flesh off?

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    Counterpoints:

    Originally posted by: Y
    In my first scenario Sasuke attempts his non-Chidori ninjutsu and they fail.
    In my first scenario he doesnt. Next

    Originally posted by: Y
    Sasuke stands motionless wihle transforming as everyone stares at him. This happens every time for every transformation ANYONE does EVER. In a straight up fight you can't sit down, scream for 30 seconds while you go SSJ2 and then beat the shit out of your opponent. Since every time Sasuke has transformed he has left himself totally open, I can safely assume he'd do it again.
    Have you ever seen Neji do his Hakke. He takes a stance and stands fucking MOTIONLESS for a few seconds. I guess Sasuke is gonna stand around and sing "Lullabye Baby"

    Originally posted by: Y
    In a "realistic" scenario Sasuke would either transform before the fight started, or not use it at all. If he transformed before the fight began it would be significantly harder for Neji, but since Sasuke burns off his power so fast it'd be easier for Neji to play the waiting game.
    In arealistic scnario Sasuke wouldnt transform before the fight. He would wait for his opportunity. He will transform when he is well away from Neji.

    Originally posted by: Y
    The rotational force that the Kaiten emits will force Sasuke's hand off course just like it did with the arrow, in my opinion.Lastly, how the fuck is Sasuke gonna stay in close range when Neji turns on the Kaiten? Stand still in the spinning vortex of chakra as it rips his flesh off?
    Rotational force
    What about the cutting edge of Chidori. If Neji does a Kaiten then Sasuke will rip apart that rotation and cut him in half if not in pieces. (Kakashi cut through lightning with chidori).

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    Originally posted by: Jadugar


    In my first scenario he doesnt. Next
    Is this supposed to be a refutation? You're terrible. Not even you believe that shitty attacks like Sasuke's fire ninjutsu could penetrate Neji's defenses. His long range ninjutsu capabilities suck. They didn't do shit against Gaara's absolute defense and they won't do shit against Neji's.

    Have you ever seen Neji do his Hakke. He takes a stance and stands fucking MOTIONLESS for a few seconds. I guess Sasuke is gonna stand around and sing "Lullabye Baby"
    Who cares about the Hakke? Neji just needs to hit him with regular Jyuuken moves to kill him. And if Sasuke moves in to close range when Neji is trying to do the Hakke Rokujyuuyonsho, he can be forced back with the Kaiten.

    In arealistic scnario Sasuke wouldnt transform before the fight. He would wait for his opportunity. He will transform when he is well away from Neji.
    Namely, before the fucking fight starts. I mean, why would you want until the fight has started to make yourself vulnerable and change forms? Just do it right off and be at your max power already.

    Also, I assume this is an arena battle, not a place where Sasuke can run away and hide.

    Rotational force
    What about the cutting edge of Chidori. If Neji does a Kaiten then Sasuke will rip apart that rotation and cut him in half if not in pieces. (Kakashi cut through lightning with chidori).
    The only similar example is Kidoumaru's arrow, which failed. And the arrows was in his blind spot too, which the Chidori won't be. If you want another example, against Gaara's absolute defense, Sasuke injured him nonfatally.

    A high speed projectile attack hits Neji in the blind spot - fails
    Sasuke's high speed attack hits Gaara's absolute defense dead on - fails
    Sasuke hits Neji's absolute defense (not even in the blind spot) and it's supposed to rip him in half? Wow, that's really generous of you, but being that literally every similar situation shows that he won't kill him, I'll go with my idea.

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    Sasuke VS Neji

    lol everyone is jumping into the fight all of a sudden. Well heres what I want to say:

    NeJi: vs Sasuke
    Kaiten &gt; all fireball jitsu, all weapon attacks
    Taijitsu ? Taijitsu (im not sure is that Sasuke has eyes that can see naruto speed)
    Taijitsu &gt; Chidori (because Neji can probably dodge the attack just like Itachi)
    64 hit ? Sharingan (can he dodge it? duno...)
    Speed &lt; Speed (probably faster when he's curse seal 2 and with sharingan)
    long duration &gt; Short term power (curse seal does not allow him to fight for a long period)
    Byakugan ? Sharingan (although it's been said that Sharingan is "weak" against taijitsu,but is this really true when he can see things in slow motion?)

    Although my choice is still gonna be Neji (my opinion), I wont conclude who will win from this. I'll let you guys decide [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

    Originally posted by: Jadugar

    Have you ever seen Neji do his Hakke. He takes a stance and stands fucking MOTIONLESS for a few seconds. I guess Sasuke is gonna stand around and sing "Lullabye Baby"
    actually he isnt that slow. they only show it like that to make him look cool. remember fight with kidomaru? he changed stance to do 128 hit or watever while the spiders were coming down. the spiders stopped in the middle of the air "waiting" for him to change stance. Does that tell you anything? lol

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    Originally posted by: heero

    Although my choice is still gonna be Neji (my opinion), I wont conclude who will win from this. I'll let you guys decide
    Not a single person has changed his mind in this thread. They are all sticking with their choices.

    It would be fucking awesome if there would be an actual fight between these two. That would be mind blowing.

    This thread is spreading at an exponential rate. Everyone had a hard time keeping up with it.

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    Originally posted by: The Heretic Azazel
    Now you're putting limiters on Neji...the fact is, sure anyone could strike like that 64 times, but without the ability to see the tenketsu and subsequently stop/reverse an opponents chakra flow, without Jyuuken, it's pointless.
    What are you talking about? Did you even understand my post?

    Originally posted by: The Heretic Azazel
    The power gap between Kyuubi and Sasuke's seal is immeasurable; it's almost as if Kyuubi has endless power, while the seal allows Sasuke to fight to the most of his potential. With that said, despite that immense chakra capacity Sasuke now has, it is still weaker than Kyuubi's power and while I am not ruling out Sasuke's ability to unblock his tenketsu, I think that was an extremely rare and special circumstance when naruto survived Hakke.
    Yeah, the kyuubi's chakra is obviously significantly more powerful and larger than what the curse seal can do. But too bad NARUTO CAN'T RELEASE ALL OF IT. The amount Naruto was able to release during his fight with Sasuke was the largest we've seen before and Sasuke's curse seal still proved to be stronger. I don't understand how you guys are posting these things without even thinking one step ahead. I don't want to call people dumb but the posts you guys make are seriously lacking some thought.

    Originally posted by: XanBcoo
    Mut, we're referring to Pre-time jump Sasuke because we have no fucking clue what post-time jump Sasuke is like. Refer to Strider and Assertn's "incomplete variable" argument.
    Wait, so we're then we're pretending that we know the full extent of Neji's improvements? Come on, a lot of this shit is hypothetical but we have to assume that Sasuke is at the very least, as strong as Naruto is (and we all know that he's da most powerful).

    I don't see your point here. Even if Sasuke can see Neji spinning, there's still assloads of Chakra coming out and he'd still get hit.
    Chakra isn't what completely knocks away the incoming attacks. It's Neji's spinning which allows the released chakra to deflect them. I doubt Neji's chakra control and power is so great that he could just deflect tons of shuriken just by releasing it. If it is, then it wouldn't make sense for him to spin as he can just stand there and release chakra all day.

    No he didn't. But Sharingan's "weakness" against Taijutsu is only relevant when copying. As in, if the opponent is moving faster than you, it doesn't matter if you can copy it, you're gonna get fucked. In any case, Sasuke is fast enough to keep up with Neji.
    Sharingan is only weak against taijutsu if the user isn't fast enough to see and react to the opponent. As far as I know, Sasuke can see and react to kyuubi'd Naruto (again, faster than Neji).

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    [quote]
    Originally posted by: Mut@chi
    What are you talking about? Did you even understand my post?

    Yeah, just because I read your post doesn't mean I agree with it. Your confidence is commendable but you can't assume people to take your word as gospel, and saying "did you even read my post?" over and over again is a shitty reply to anything.

    Yeah, the kyuubi's chakra is obviously significantly more powerful and larger than what the curse seal can do. But too bad NARUTO CAN'T RELEASE ALL OF IT. The amount Naruto was able to release during his fight with Sasuke was the largest we've seen before and Sasuke's curse seal still proved to be stronger. I don't understand how you guys are posting these things without even thinking one step ahead. I don't want to call people dumb but the posts you guys make are seriously lacking some thought.
    Naruto still has a different chakra. You know Naruto has a damn large chakra capacity himself without Kyuubi, and Neji rendered him useless. Kyuubi is the reason. Kido had the cursed seal (not as powerful as Sasuke's, granted) and he knew if he was hit again with Hakke when he couldn't form armor around his body he was a goner. the more power that is extracted from Sasuke, the shorter his time will be against Neji. Having an immense chakra and having two different kinds are two different things. No matter the capacity, Hakke is supposed to shut the typical chakra circulatory system down. In fact I don't even think when Naruto was helped by Kyuubi that it unblocked his tenketsu. After all he has gotten up from more unbelievable things, who's to say when Naruto's tenketsu were shut that his body just took on a mind of its own, like the aformentioned Chidori through the heart and Renge on his head. Kyuubi allows him to do the impossible shit he does, and I just think his influence on Naruto is different from just adding to his own chakra.
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    Sasuke VS Neji

    Chakra isn't what completely knocks away the incoming attacks. It's Neji's spinning which allows the released chakra to deflect them. I doubt Neji's chakra control and power is so great that he could just deflect tons of shuriken just by releasing it. If it is, then it wouldn't make sense for him to spin as he can just stand there and release chakra all day.
    Yes...and? My point is still the same. Even if Sasuke can see Neji spinning in slow motion, it doesn't mean Neji's actually moving slower. He's still spinning fast and releasing the Chakra using a normal Kaiten.

    Come on, a lot of this shit is hypothetical but we have to assume that Sasuke is at the very least, as strong as Naruto is (and we all know that he's da most powerful).
    I agree, but we unless we know exactly how much he's improved, and what he's capable of, we can't use him in this argument.

    As for your sharingan comment, you basically just reworded what I said. I agree, Sasuke's speed &gt; Neji's speed.

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    Originally posted by: The Heretic Azazel
    With that said, despite that immense chakra capacity Sasuke now has, it is still weaker than Kyuubi's power and while I am not ruling out Sasuke's ability to unblock his tenketsu, I think that was an extremely rare and special circumstance when naruto survived Hakke.
    An unfathomably, extremely rare and special circumstance that is only likely to occur with and in favor for Naruto.

    Originally posted by: Mut@chi
    Wait, so we're then we're pretending that we know the full extent of Neji's improvements? Come on, a lot of this shit is hypothetical but we have to assume that Sasuke is at the very least, as strong as Naruto is (and we all know that he's da most powerful).
    We're not including anything post time jump for either Neji or Sasuke.

    I did it once, and only considering someone else did. Thereafter, all discussion of post time jump abilities have been negated from the relevancy of this topic.

    Please, follow suit.

    Originally posted by: Mut@chi
    Chakra isn't what completely knocks away the incoming attacks. It's Neji's spinning which allows the released chakra to deflect them. I doubt Neji's chakra control and power is so great that he could just deflect tons of shuriken just by releasing it. If it is, then it wouldn't make sense for him to spin as he can just stand there and release chakra all day.
    "I don't want to call people dumb but the posts you guys make are seriously lacking some thought."

    Let's go back. Picture it with me ..

    Neji is stuck to a tree. Webs are covering the majority of his arms and legs, keeping him fastened to the trunk. Suddenly, as Kidoumaru is attempting to strike Neji with a final blow of his hardened web, Neji is freed and racing along the spear and in front of Kidoumaru. You remember this? Or, am I also making this up?

    Chakra is what blocks / knocks away the incoming attacks and / or objects. Chakra is a force, which is being projected out of every pore of his body, pushing away objects or throwing them off course.

    More support for you:

    01. Chuunin Exam. Naruto v. Neji. Naruto gets the jump on Neji, as Neji thinks he's punctured one of Naruto's tenketsu. However, it proves to be a Kage Bunshin, and Naruto leaps to jab Neji in the face. In that instance of Naruto's encroachment, Neji emits chakra from his face, and Naruto's fist collides with that chakra, as if striking a brick wall. After presenting an arrogant smirk, and only after such, does Neji then spin, which caused Naruto to fly back on his ass.

    02. Kidoumaru succeeded in stopping Neji's Kaiten, and as Neji slowed to a halt and became trapped within the sticky webs, one of Kidoumaru's daggers was thrown towards Neji's face. Neji saw the incoming attack, and chakra shot from that portion of his face to deflect the weapon.

    03. Kidoumaru's first arrow. It should have pierced his heart. Why didn't it? Because Neji was surrounding his body in chakra, and the immense amount being poured out, and the force from it caused the arrow's designated trajectory to change. He was just standing there releasing chakra from his entire body.

    Neji spins to compensate for the blind spot. He says this. An enemy cannot be on every side of him. If he is constantly moving, that alleviates the blind spot and allows Neji a chance to spot the attack or attacker, thus the sensible reasoning behind the accelerated spinning.

    On a final note, Naruto isn't releasing shit. In every dire instance, it's been a matter of the Kyuubi laughing at how pitiful his container is, and bestows him with fractions of his power, giving more and more with every occasion. The Fox is testing his limits with Naruto's body and Yondaime's Eight Elephant Monkey Seal (?). The most powerful demon is biding his time to escape, is all.

  20. #220

    Sasuke VS Neji

    I dont understand all the discussion sasuke is overpowered is a cheated player, kishimoto did it, there is no much to say about it. Neji is not fast enough to hit sasuke with 3 comma sharingan, and sharingan takes as much time to activate as byakugan. Neji doesnt have any flash move or fast enough to hit sasuke, he can just defend himself.
    Byakugan allows you only to see 360º round you, is not like sharingan a slowmotion camera, so maybe sasukes speed is enough to hit neji 2 or 3 times before he starts spining, wich takes time.


    If naruto broke trough the kaiten just with some kyubi chakra and a punch what do you think will happen if sasuke does cs lvl1 or 2 chidori? just the same or worst. He can use katon, shuriken and a lot of attacks to made neji run out of chakra doing kaiten. It's not a fair fight since the day kishimoto decided sasuke to be narutos lifetime rival.
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