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    Sasuke VS Neji

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    Originally posted by: darkmetal505
    My vote: Sasuke

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    Sasuke VS Neji

    Why is Mut's name highlighted? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]
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    Sasuke VS Neji

    where is Terra? that's what i want to know. he usuallly bitch slap all ya with his post.

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    Sasuke VS Neji

    Originally posted by: XanBcoo
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    Because the stuff I say actually makes sense.

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    Sasuke VS Neji

    Originally posted by: XanBcoo
    Edit: Vasco, stop double and triple posting. Use the "Edit" button if you want to add more.
    I am not double posting, each message for different person / reply, if i post all in once, it will make it too long and too hard to read (it is hard to read my post already, right?)

    Responds post later

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    Sasuke VS Neji

    .....wow this thread went to hell since I last posted here. How bout this, WE HAVE NO IDEA WHO WOULD WIN!! Honestly it is a very close match and if you are a fanboy of one or the other you will never agree on who is going to win. Lets all just end this thread cause I am sick of other Neji fans destroying my agruement = [.

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    Sasuke VS Neji

    Originally posted by: Dezalanel
    .....wow this thread went to hell since I last posted here
    This is one of the fastest growing thread.

    Originally posted by: Dezalanel
    Lets all just end this thread cause I am sick of other Neji fans destroying my agruement = [.
    You are too weak just like Neji.

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    Sasuke VS Neji

    Originally posted by: vasco
    Originally posted by: XanBcoo
    Edit: Vasco, stop double and triple posting. Use the "Edit" button if you want to add more.
    I am not double posting, each message for different person / reply, if i post all in once, it will make it too long and too hard to read (it is hard to read my post already, right?)

    Responds post later
    No, your still double posting. Use edit, no one cares if its long.


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    Sasuke VS Neji

    Originally posted by: vasco
    hate to quote long thing again... so i directly to write...

    1&gt; I did not say Sasuke cannot use close combat skill... but Neji forcus on close combat, and Sasuke forcus on ninja teachnique, so Neji will have upper hand on close combat (there is no way you can say i am wrong in this) Sasuke may obtain Lee's skill (somehow) but the draw back is short in stamina. By the way, Neji beat Lee everytime, not even lose once!
    2&gt; Yes, Neji may not attack without plan, but he can just random hit instead forcus on chakra point... which mean it doesn't matter if he hit head or hand or leg or body... can be totally random ^_^ (how nice), and by Neji, if any part of sasuke body got hit, he will got that part of internal damage... (dead meat)
    3&gt; Again, Neji don't need to forcus on Chakra point really... forcus on chakra point just make it better. so even miss first hit, sasuke still need to dodge all other 63 hits
    4&gt; If i am idiot, so do you, because you respond to me ^_^ by the way, it also mean everyone in here is idiot as well...(be careful what you say!)
    5&gt; you DO remember that sasuke can use speed and appear from anywhere (under neji) to kick neji up right? No, not at all, in which episode? or you mean naruto? by the way, Kaiten will protect from the ground as well, look when Neji use Kaiten, the ground got damage from Kaiten as well
    6&gt; Kaiten vs chidori again? let the author decided it... (by the way, in my simulation, Neji use kaiten to attack, not defence, so don't keep saying Chidori hit Kaiten)
    7&gt; well, i assume this fight is fair fight, like in exam, so sasuke WILL stand within 64 hits rang for sure... otherwise, it will be unfair fight.. right? If unfair fight, anything can be add then.

    For your last sentance... "YOUR SIMULATION IS NOT FAIR BULLSHIT!"
    1&gt; which part is not fair
    2&gt; If you say my one is not fair + bullshit, then make one but fair and nice. I take time to think how to make the simulation as fair as possible, and i give Sasuke a lot of credit in my simulation as well. For example, he could dodge the 64 and 128 hits, no damage from Kaiten attack, and so...Sasuke lose in my simulation because Neji keep force-ing sasuke in concer and make him off graud. So, If you think you can make a FAIR + NICE NON-BULLSHIT simulation... and let people judge is it FAIR AND NICE

    1. we saw lee fight neji when lee was still in his crappy stage (no offense to rock lee, he's awsome) but that was before he could move so fast, you saw even neji surprised.

    2. everytime neji fights he aims towards the chakra points, its not random you idiot, if it was it would just be me slapping you across the face, if he could randomly hit, why doesnt he? instead of using 2 fingers he could pretty much just slap people and they'd lose chakra from what your saying

    3. neji's attack is continuous , but for something to be continuous there has to be a chain reaction so if neji misses his first hits, he wont continue because if sasuke can dodge the first 2 hits, he can dodge the next 62 as well.

    4. i proved you were an idiot

    5. the ground got damaged but thats from him spinning around, if you spin with enough friction you will make a hole in the ground, thats right but it wasnt his chakra that made the ground dig in, it was the speed he was spinning in. and still, kaiten has a certain radius and it doesnt stay attached to neji, there is space between him and the sheild around him so if sasuke could slip right next to him, how would the kaiten deflect?

    6. since when can you use kaiten to attack? kaiten is easily dodged (yes neji's diameter of kaiten is rather small) so if sasuke was out of range of hakke he would be out of range of kaiten.

    7. why does sasuke have to stand within 64 hit range? how is that fair? and i'm pretty sure if neji tried using 64 hakke against lee (no weights) lee would be able to dodge too so sasuke can get out of 64 hakken anyway. when the fight starts, neji isnt in hakke position, and sasuke doesnt have a chidori powered up they're both just standing. so in the time neji takes to gather chakra at his finger tips and form his hakke position sasuke could easily be out of hakke range.

    1. hmm, i dunno maybe the part about how sasuke starts within 64 hakke range...the part where neji is faster than sasuke...and the part where sasuke is standing there helplessly.
    2. i cant make one fair, nobody can make a fair fight, nothing in life is a "fair fight" if it was a fair fight then there'd be no winner. even if kishimoto made a neji vs sasuke scene, he'd already have a winner in mind, anime isnt real so they wouldnt pop out and fight in front of kishimoto so he can draw each aspect, he already knows the outcome and he builds up towards that outcome.


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    Sasuke VS Neji

    Originally posted by: heero
    but Neji got that 64 hit thing and Ive never seen anyone dodge it once they got in his range...If that hit lands, sasuke cant use any chakra meaning he will definatly lose...Also, Neji is a close combat specialist so Sasuke charging into him with Chidori might not be a big deal. All he has to do is grab his arm to stop the attack. Itachi did that ezly so....

    I don't know if this is accurate- Naruto (damned demon fox!) got hit by it and he was able to regen a bit-

    what I'm not sure of is whether CS2 would allow him to do the same or not.


    But Chidori vs. Neji's taijitsu skills? bah, no contest.



    Neji 4tw

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    Sasuke VS Neji

    Originally posted by: Jurojin


    what I'm not sure of is whether CS2 would allow him to do the same or not.



    Neji 4tw
    it will. watch when sasuke fought naruto.

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    Sasuke VS Neji

    I actually work for a few days, and miss out on a good three pages.

    Shit.

    The quoted lines are in no particular order, as I had to move some portions of this post around to accomodate my statements. So don't be surprised if a quote of yours is somehow mixed in cohorts with a later one of yours, or vice-versa. I had a lot to cover, so bear with me and cut a beaner some slack.

    With that disclaimer out of the way, let's get the show on the road. It's been a long time ..

    @ Jadugar: Jared never voted. Scoreboard's been updated, and reflects that accordingly. Hit me up if there's a mistake.

    Originally posted by: vasco
    (Insert here a million posts I've missed out on, and won't dare quote due to fatigue from reading or carelessness.)
    Most of your statements sound well and dandy for fan-fiction, which I wouldn't mind perusing or even in-depthly reading, given the writing talent.

    However, against these guys your statements don't hold much weight. You need supporting evidence - not mock battles, which is tainted by your own biased opinion.

    Certain things like you're not considering the Curse Seal at Level 2, or it doesn't matter, doesn't help support your argument, since that's the main thing Sasuke's got going for him. And, that Neji would kill him if this or that. No if's. Hit these people with the facts as to why Neji's better.

    I'm loving your enthusiasm, though. Seriously.

    Originally posted by: darkmetal505
    As for my vote: Rock Lee all the way!
    He's not a contender in this bout, but I'd vote for him too, otherwise.

    Originally posted by: XanBcoo
    Neji must go into his stance and then launch the attack.
    As slow as we have seen this done, I honestly believe the majority of that is fluff.

    He held a brief conversation with Kidoumaru while in the stance. In all that time, Kidoumaru was helpless to defend himself. Allegedly, and in the manner it was shown. I find all of that a bit hard to swallow.

    Originally posted by: Mut@chi
    There's always a big chance that if Sasuke is somehow hit by Neji's hakke attack, he can always recover and fight back just like Naruto did. Neji relying on his main attack to disable someone who has so much chakra is too iffy for me to say that it's reliable and enough to beat Sasuke.
    Originally posted by: heero
    Thats not exactly true. In the fight between Neji and Kidomaru, Kidomaru said it himself that he was scared he might be hit from Neji's attack because it can stop his chakra flow. Also, I remember Sasuke saying that the seal just releases his chakra to his full potential. Never said it gives him another chakra flow. Otherwise it wouldnt hurt him at all to use it.
    Our million dollar winner.

    Originally posted by: Mut@chi
    From what we've seen so far, Sasuke at level 2 has WAY more chakra than most characters and even more than Naruto (referring to him outlasting Naruto in their last fight).
    Sasuke did not outlast Naruto because he had more chakra. He outlasted our number one surprise ninja because Sasuke actually hit Naruto with his signature power move. With all the pain Sasuke was already in from simply transgressing to that state of the Level 2 Curse Seal, I doubt there'd be much of him had Rasengan connected against flesh.

    In addition, Sasuke was complaining about not being able to remain in that second seal form almost as soon as he entered it. At that point, Naruto had already been all Kyuubi'd out, and showing Sasuke how strong the pimp hand was.

    So, I am not totally understanding your equation as to how Sasuke outlasted Naruto.

    Originally posted by: Mut@chi
    Neji's kaiten isn't even an ultimate defense anymore. We now know that he doesn't spin fast enough to stop stupid spiders from penetrating and clogging his shit up. That just means one thing. Sasuke's 3 comma'd sharingan can counter Neji's kaiten and its fast spin velocity. Then I'm gonna say that Sasuke can dodge every one of Neji's hakke attacks using his sharingan.
    The spiders did not penetrate. They were launched back and away as is everything else once coming into contact with Kaiten. The spiders were emitting sticky web substances which also had chakra on them and leeched onto it. I don't remember when Sasuke ever became capable of doing something like this.

    Also, 64 Palms of Hakke and Kaiten are bloodline abilities. Last I checked, Sharingan cannot aid much against these. Otherwise, Sasuke would have known which mirror Haku was truly in from the beginning.

    Originally posted by: Mut@chi
    Clearly, the main reason why he wasn't able to spin was because of the sticky spider web, but my point was that since some spiders were able to penetrate the defense and stick webs on him, there's no reason why Sasuke can't do the same considering he uses the sharingan.
    Didn't notice this post, as I was quoting while going over the numerous pages I've missed.

    The spiders did not penetrate. The webs were leeching onto the projected chakra, basically sapping it. There was no longer a dome of chakra due to Neji slowing down, and portions of that chakra being removed by the web, which created the openings for the spiders to make direct contact and temporarily immobilize Neji.

    Either way, Sharingan isn't cutting it in this area.

    Originally posted by: Mut@chi
    But then it all comes down to how fast can Neji react and how good Sasuke's sharingan is. Let me go back to my previous point about Neji not being fast than kyuubi'd Naruto: he isn't faster, and that just means that Sasuke, using his sharingan, can rape his face.
    I agree with Neji not being faster than Kyuubi Naruto. At least, not in his "One-tail" mode, during the final bout with Sasuke.

    However, in the eyes of Sharingan .. Neji might as well be faster than Naruto. Naruto's movements, that were captured in your "Enter the Matrix" Focus vision, were influenced by chakra. You're so caught up in the manga (rightfully so), you should recall that Sasuke even states this. So, referring back to previous statements, due to the motions of Kyuubi Naruto being fueled by the demon's chakra, the Sharingan was able to quickly see that, break it down, and apply a viable counter-resolution for it. Neji speed is based on his own power. His own muscular fortitude. This, like Lee's speed, is based on stamina - which is not so easily broken down by the Sharingan. As explained after Sasuke caught an open-toed sandal to his jaw by Lee. And, surely that was eons ago and Sasuke has progressed a while since then, but the principle still remains. If the speed is too great, the Sharingan proves useless.

    Sasuke's speed is a fraction of unweighted Lee's, and cannot be maintained for the duration Lee can. Lee's speed was nothing to Neji, during the greatest bout in the series [Lee v. Gaara], until the gates were unleashed, and that speed there .. well, we do not even need to go into that. Sasuke isn't there.

    My point is that Sasuke isn't faster than Neji, or Lee. Neji's seen Lee's speed. He's battled it, and overwhelmed it. Lee's speed was nothing to Neji, which is why the only salvation for Lee would be to take it many levels above with Ura Renge.

    Originally posted by: Mut@chi
    That's the thing, Sasuke is tremendously more powerful than Kidoumaru.
    This is opinion, over fact.

    Kidoumaru is much more suited for combat against Neji. So, while Sasuke may be so much more powerful, his fighting style isn't adapted to overcome Neji.

    Originally posted by: Mut@chi
    Neji would win every fight against a dumbass like Lee because without opening gates, Lee is a practice dummy against a natural genius like Neji. And Gai has always forbid Lee from opening the gates. We know this since Neji was surprised during Lee's fight against Gaara.
    Neji was surprised by Ura Renge, nothing prior, especially his speed. Neji and TenTen were there, as Gai attempted to teach all three of them Omote Renge. Neji knows what was necessary for it. No surprises there. And, with his arrogance, you don't think Neji did what he could to still best Lee's technique?

    How can you justify the initial gate as enough to defeat Neji, when Gai taught Lee to open more? Gai knew opening more and moving that much more faster was the only way around Neji's Byakugan and speed.

    And, Gai forbidding Lee in opening gates is nothing since we saw Lee break that promise twice. In his attempts to beat Neji, there's no doubt he's done it before. And, still lost.

    Originally posted by: XanBcoo
    3. Even one or two hits could still damage Sasuke pretty badly. IF they hit (which they wouldn't).

    4. Sasuke could recover from the Hakke (64 hits) and would not be stupid enough to get hit again imo.
    3. So, you believe Sasuke would win flawlessly and not get touched a single time?

    4. Still don't agree with this recovery argument you three are going on, for the reasons the few Neji fans have debated. Two chakra reserves is not a luxury Sasuke shares with Naruto.

    Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
    You're pretty much the only one factoring in the post time-jump. Which is kinda dumb since there's no data on sasuke post time-jump yet. You cant formulate a hypothesis with incomplete variables, moron.
    Nine hours later, I posted my reasoning for mentioning a technique post time-jump Neji utilized, which was due to other forum members bringing up their speculated ideas that Sasuke would "assuredly" be able to shoot more than two Chidori.

    "Next time read the whole discussion before posting."

    Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
    Level 2 Sasuke &gt;&gt; Level 2 Kidoumaru...
    What chapter was this said in? Must've missed that one.

    The same way I missed said imaginary chapter, you missed the point.

    Which was that an opponent who can maintain an increasingly overwhelming level of power, is a much more dangerous adversary than one who becomes riddled with pain moments after its activation.

    "You cant formulate a hypothesis with incomplete variables, moron."

    Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
    Good argument. Oh wait...before there was Sasuke, Neji was revered as the number #1 rookie by everyone. Even when you bring up points that don't support neji, you still manage to be wrong.
    Revered as the No. #1 Rookie, right. Never hounded by the village idiots, females and other various characters. Two completely different things.

    Are you even reading the posts?

    Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
    So basically anyone who gets too close to neji will automatically have their tenketsu hit and lose?
    Yes, basically. If Neji makes physical contact with you, your tenketsu are being closed. That's just the end of that.

    Was Hinata's arm not an obvious indication of this?

    There were no fancy stances. No "finesse to immobilize his opponent." He never launched on the offensive and was simply performing defensive, parrying tactics. And, her arm was rendered useless for projecting chakra, a la Jyuuken.

    Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
    Is that why lee had a secret taijutsu move that was supposed to be the trick to beating neji, despite the fact that it means him getting right in neji's face?
    64 Hands of Hakke + Lee = No Chakra. Chakra -&gt; Taijutsu = Not necessary. Taijutsu + Stamina = Good Taijutsu.

    Lee's secret Taijutsu technique was not to get around getting hit by Neji's Jyuuken, it was simply to get around Neji's complete vision and speed. Gai states the user is moving too fast to be seen. There was no concern for being hit, although that is generally understood. You cannot hit, what you cannot see.

    "Even when you bring up points that don't support Sasuke, you still manage to be wrong."

    Fucking genius, you are.

    Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
    And as I said before, neji's byakugan would leave him vulnerable to the hypnotic effects of the 3 pupil sharingan.
    I forgot that all those hypnotic Genjutsu become auto-abilities, self-taught and learned the moment you acquire the complete, three-comma Sharingan.

    What was I thinking, right?

    Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
    but both sources of chakra still flow through the same circulatory system...the kyubi's had to have been so strong that it unblocked all the holes.

    In this sense, all that it takes is just an immense amount of chakra. And that was when naruto had less access to kyubi chakra than he did fighting sasuke, and yet his chakra was about equal to level 2 sasuke's. I'm inclined to suspect that level 2 sasuke's chakra might be able to unblock tenketsu just the same...possibly
    The Kyuubi's chakra is simply too much to be contained, in any shape or form. In no way does a seal Orochimaru provides compare to a Bijyuu's power. Just, no.

    Also, I don't see how you view it as Naruto getting access to the Fox's chakra. It's always been pending how much the Nine-tails is willing to give or put out. Kyuubi's like a bad date. It allowed Naruto first base when summoning, and another while fighting Neji, and the Kyuubi then took him home when he took the form of "one-tail."

    Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
    Idiots who pat themselves on the back before recieving the counter-argument: 1
    [Strider]

    Game. Set. Match.
    The entire thread was a counter-argument, including my post which should have been obvious. Apparently, not to everyone, 'eh Assertn?

    And, the final portion of that was actually a joke to Jagudar, as he posted "Match." in another one of our debates before I could respond.

    However, there was no point in explaining that, as we all know you have no humor.

    Go ask Mut' for some help at this shit though, because you're garbage.

    ABORT. RETY. IGNORED.


    Look. In all honesty, this topic is solely going to be based on conversation revolving around the Curse Seal, because without it, this would not even be a valid discussion, as Sasuke would be annihilated. Even with the Curse Seal, again .. I still stand by a previous statement that while Sasuke in that enheightened form of ugliness and power, his advantage over Neji would be immense, but Neji would still land a death blow and end it in a draw.

    How many times in an anime series have you seen someone take the critical hit, solely for the purpose of landing their final blow in on the enemy? That's all Neji needs. And, Chidori, Sasuke's ace-in-the-hole, is a thrusting technique. It's not like Neji hasn't been crucified to a tree trunk with a spiral arrow through his gut or pierced right above his heart. And while Sasuke, arrogantly proud of his "power," stands there with his hand protruding through the back of Neji's spine, a final assault would be made to some critical area on Sasuke, enlightening him of what Jyuuken is.

    .. Then we could all complain about Neji being revived by his long wisps of hair, once again.

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    Sasuke VS Neji

    Originally posted by: Strider
    Nine hours later, I posted my reasoning for mentioning a technique post time-jump Neji utilized, which was due to other forum members bringing up their speculated ideas that Sasuke would "assuredly" be able to shoot more than two Chidori.

    "Next time read the whole discussion before posting."
    oh my bad. apparently its ok to formulate hypothesis with incomplete variables if other morons are doing it as well.


    Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
    Level 2 Sasuke &gt;&gt; Level 2 Kidoumaru...
    What chapter was this said in? Must've missed that one.

    The same way I missed said imaginary chapter, you missed the point.

    Which was that an opponent who can maintain an increasingly overwhelming level of power, is a much more dangerous adversary than one who becomes riddled with pain moments after its activation.

    "You cant formulate a hypothesis with incomplete variables, moron."
    I see you tailored this one to throw that quote back at me...but too bad the imaginary chapter you failed to read was actually multiple clues spread throughout the entire arc. Lets see....

    1) Sasuke become designated the leader of the sound 4, as Kimimaro's replacement
    2) Kabuto, who is full aware of both Sasuke and Kimimaro's abilities, wonders which of the 2 of them are stronger.
    Now i HOPE you don't need me to bring up the imaginary discussions that established that kimimaro was stronger than the sound 4, right?

    How about the surprise that Kabuto and Oro discovered when they sensed Sasuke's chakra in oro's mansion? I bet Oro was pretty excited when he felt a chakra flow about equal to that of Kidoumaru, huh?

    Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
    So basically anyone who gets too close to neji will automatically have their tenketsu hit and lose?
    Yes, basically. If Neji makes physical contact with you, your tenketsu are being closed. That's just the end of that.

    Was Hinata's arm not an obvious indication of this?

    There were no fancy stances. No "finesse to immobilize his opponent." He never launched on the offensive and was simply performing defensive, parrying tactics. And, her arm was rendered useless for projecting chakra, a la Jyuuken.
    Neji has no speed, and neither does Hinata. Neji won't be able to move his hand fast enough, and even if it does get close, sasuke can just bust a wing out the same way he blocked naruto. I don't think the 64 hands of hakke will do much in that situation.

    And since i know you're going to want proof. Tell me this, how come Neji didn't attempt to block Naruto's tenketsu again after he went kyubi? Neji lost (or arguably tied) to a level 1 kyubi yet you expect him to win against a level 2 seal sasuke?

    Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
    Is that why lee had a secret taijutsu move that was supposed to be the trick to beating neji, despite the fact that it means him getting right in neji's face?
    64 Hands of Hakke + Lee = No Chakra. Chakra -&gt; Taijutsu = Not necessary. Taijutsu + Stamina = Good Taijutsu.

    Lee's secret Taijutsu technique was not to get around getting hit by Neji's Jyuuken, it was simply to get around Neji's complete vision and speed. Gai states the user is moving too fast to be seen. There was no concern for being hit, although that is generally understood. You cannot hit, what you cannot see.

    "Even when you bring up points that don't support Sasuke, you still manage to be wrong."

    Fucking genius, you are.
    Damn dood...you just made yourself look bad with that last line. Because here's my million dollar rebuttal: If Taijutsu doesn't need chakra, then how does OPENING THE 8 CHAKRA GATES improve lee's taijutsu? Jutsus aside...chakra is still a part of everyday life. Neji was surprised that Naruto was even able to STAND UP after the 64 hands of hakke, let alone fight back.

    Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
    And as I said before, neji's byakugan would leave him vulnerable to the hypnotic effects of the 3 pupil sharingan.
    I forgot that all those hypnotic Genjutsu become auto-abilities, self-taught and learned the moment you acquire the complete, three-comma Sharingan.

    What was I thinking, right?
    Who knows? It's just as legitimate as kakashi knowing how to perform hypnosis with the sharingan despite there not being any other uchihas to teach him. Same goes for his mangekyou. And i thought we weren't talking about neji vs sasuke at THE exact moment that sasuke reached seal 2 and 3 pupil sharingan, were we?

    Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
    but both sources of chakra still flow through the same circulatory system...the kyubi's had to have been so strong that it unblocked all the holes.

    In this sense, all that it takes is just an immense amount of chakra. And that was when naruto had less access to kyubi chakra than he did fighting sasuke, and yet his chakra was about equal to level 2 sasuke's. I'm inclined to suspect that level 2 sasuke's chakra might be able to unblock tenketsu just the same...possibly
    The Kyuubi's chakra is simply too much to be contained, in any shape or form. In no way does a seal Orochimaru provides compare to a Bijyuu's power. Just, no.

    Also, I don't see how you view it as Naruto getting access to the Fox's chakra. It's always been pending how much the Nine-tails is willing to give or put out. Kyuubi's like a bad date. It allowed Naruto first base when summoning, and another while fighting Neji, and the Kyuubi then took him home when he took the form of "one-tail."
    It's been established that the amount of kyubi's chakra that naruto had access to in the normal state simply wasn't enough to fight sasuke. This is the SAME amount of chakra that broke the tenketsu, mind you. The levels of chakra from both sides of the sasuke/naruto fight were immeasurably higher than the levels of chakra exhibited in the tournament. Therefore comparisons between chakra buffers from the recent fight to situations from the tournament is almost not even worth factoring.

    However, there was no point in explaining that, as we all know you have no humor.
    Actually, i find alot of humor in replying to posts directed towards me in this forum [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

    Go ask Mut' for some help at this shit though, because you're garbage.

    ABORT. RETY. IGNORED.
    Don't really understand the reasoning behind this. Are you mad or something?
    you didnt even take the time to make sure your quote tags are set properly[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]
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    Sasuke VS Neji

    Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
    Neji lost (or arguably tied) to a level 1 kyubi yet you expect him to win against a level 2 seal sasuke?
    Actually, I don't. Never said this.

    The one thing I stood by, and still do, is that Neji would get the necessary hit or hits to finish Sasuke in Level 2, prior to also dropping.

    Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
    Don't really understand the reasoning behind this. Are you mad or something?
    you didnt even take the time to make sure your quote tags are set properly
    Er. It's never as potent if it has to be explained. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img]

    I wasn't angry. It was a means of dismissing you, using your own tag to do so. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/img]

    And, what quote tags? Time wasn't on my side. Still isn't.

    I'll post the remainder of my retorts and quips yonder morrow.

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    Sasuke VS Neji

    Sasuke would win, not a sasuke fanboy but thats the truth and with cs lvl2 even more. Just when he get the 3 comma sharingan meant that neji is fucked up. My only doubt is if chidori can break trough kaiten like it did against the sand of gaara. The only way for neji to win is to keep kaiten all the time and hope taht sasuke goes against it to get hurt stupidly and lose.

    Sasuke is overpowered just like naruto. They are the stars of the show afterall.
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    Sasuke VS Neji

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    Sasuke VS Neji

    Also, 64 Palms of Hakke and Kaiten are bloodline abilities. Last I checked, Sharingan cannot aid much against these. Otherwise, Sasuke would have known which mirror Haku was truly in from the beginning.
    no actually only byakugan is bloodline. The kaiten, hakke, and jyukken are specifically designed and more effective with byakugan/Hyugga clan.

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    Sasuke VS Neji

    Originally posted by: Strider
    Sasuke did not outlast Naruto because he had more chakra. He outlasted our number one surprise ninja because Sasuke actually hit Naruto with his signature power move.
    That is exactly going to happen to Neji. He will be hit by Sasuke's signaure move, Chidori. Put that in your head.

    Originally posted by: Strider
    In addition, Sasuke was complaining about not being able to remain in that second seal form almost as soon as he entered it. At that point, Naruto had already been all Kyuubi'd out, and showing Sasuke how strong the pimp hand was.

    So, I am not totally understanding your equation as to how Sasuke outlasted Naruto.
    Let me get this straight. Naruto stayed longer in Kayubed state and Sasuke just enterd his lv2 and quickly finised Naruto.
    Seems to me Sasuke knows how to use his lv2 seal well and did outlasted the battle.

    Originally posted by: Strider
    Otherwise, Sasuke would have known which mirror Haku was truly in from the beginning
    Sasuke couldnt tell which mirror Haku was in b/c they only reflected him, his bloodline ability, but when he came out to attck, Sasuke slowly managed to discover his movement from one mirror to another.

    Originally posted by: Strider
    Kidoumaru is much more suited for combat against Neji. So, while Sasuke may be so much more powerful, his fighting style isn't adapted to overcome Neji.
    Adapt he will. I dont think anyone can deny that Sasuke was rookie no. 1 and is intelligent. Long range or short range battle, Sasuke can fight both. He is more powerful (you said it yourself), more equipped and can adapt to the long/short rane battle modes.

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    Sasuke VS Neji

    My vote goes to Sasuke.

    First post =P.

    Anyways Sasuke level 2 seal will overpower Neji in the end.

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    Sasuke VS Neji

    Originally posted by: Ban Kai
    My vote goes to Sasuke.

    Anyways Sasuke level 2 seal will overpower Neji in the end
    Good choice.


    Originally posted by: Ban Kai
    First post =P
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