Well, Surpernatural returns tonight... along with Smallville and LOST; so overall quite a good night for TV watching. That aside, the next 4 episodes look to be really good and here's an interview with the creator of Supernatural which was actually a great read:
http://www.tv.com/story/10777.html
Talks about the show's future and what to expect in the coming episodes.
Goddamn that was good, when he said they were going to ramp up the pace and the mythology he was kidding. Saddening that for now I can only look forward to three more episodes. This episode didn't even have anything to criticize.
Dreaming impossible dreams.
Sapphire is awesome!
Yep, great episode... Ruby looked really hot; still I don't think we know her true intentions yet. I highly doubt this is all about her remembering what's like to be human, I still think she's from some division of demons that still think of Sam as the chosen one. I really like her as a character, and I hope she sticks around beyond this season... all the good female characters this show has had haven't lasted long.
Woot! man i missed supernatural. And even though its only 4 eps, from that interview it seems like they're gonna be great. I especially love the fact that the creator refuses to rush things and just get it done. He wants to do what he can in the few eps they have left AND tell a proper story next season. This guy is awesome. I can't wait to get more into the mythology of it all.
Speaking of, awesome new revelation about demonkind in this ep.....so they were all humans once. Maybe its just me, but when ruby said that, i had this vision of dean as a badass demon, coming up from hell to fight in the war. Man, how kool would that be.
And on the topic of war, we'll finally get to see some clips from the very first battles in the season climax/finale. I seriously hope this show comes back with an even bigger budget.
I'm thinking more along the lines of their dad coming back, but evil... I'm kinda pissed that Sam doesn't use any powers, and I don't know why. I mean, in the first season he was using telekinesis and some other psychic shit... but after that they kidna went away from it for no reason. It's inconsistent, and it bothers me a bit.Originally Posted by Assassin
I don't think its inconsistent at all everything surrounding Sam and his powers had to do with Azazel and Sam couldn't control his powers anyway they only worked when Azazel was involved. Sam died and came back and Azazel hinted that he may not be all Sam but then he died.
Since Sam's powers were directly related to him I honestly don't expect to see them for now but I expect when the story progresses and they encounter another demon that was involved with Azazel and his plans Sam's powers will come into play again.
Besides that Sam's powers have always remained dormant so I think there would be something that triggers them, plus like they said for the powers to work properly you have to give in to the dark side and Sam hasn't done that yet.
I don't think all the demons were human to begin with, she simply said that all she has met thus far have been. I remember that one demon talking to Dean about searching for Lucifer. In "mythology'" I don't know if I should call it that but anyway its common that humans that go to hell eventually become demons but then there are the, pure bloods, the fallen angels that reside in hell and they are far more powerful.
Yeah and the first thing I thought of when they revealed that was their dad making a cameo as a bad ass demon. I mean he did escape through the hell gate already.
Dreaming impossible dreams.
Sapphire is awesome!
He did have control of some of those powers... don't you remeber that episode on season 1 where Dean was in danger and Sam suddenly used telekinesis to help him? That's what I'm talking about, why doesn't he at the least even try to use telekinesis every now and then. Wether it works or not, then that's another story... but he at the least should try to do it from time to time; he already did it once so he knows he has the capability to do it again.
I can't remember clearly but if you're talking about what I think you're talking about that episode also involved Azazel. There is also the fact that he now knows what the source of his powers are so he wouldn't want to use them even if he could.
Since he came back from the dead all his abilities have been completely dormant so I still think something needs to trigger them. Maybe as he becomes darker and darker he will unconsciously tap into them at some point but I have no idea what happened to him after he died.
Dreaming impossible dreams.
Sapphire is awesome!
There may be some truth in there, and as it was mentioned he hasn't had any visions since Azazel was killed... but I think that's because the visions weren't really powers of his, but visions that Azazel forced on him. On the other hand, I think powers like telekinesis are his... and he could tap into them if he would be willing to do so. But again, my problem with it is not really that he isn't using the powers, but after that episode in season 1, I don't ever remember him even attempting to use telekinesis even when he didn't know about the source of his powers. It's the attempt to try it that bugs me... he never did after that episode if I remember correctly. I just think the writters were playing a bit with Sam in there, but didn't really want to give him powers so that the brothers struggle killing demons... so they kinda threw it under the carpet and hoped the viewers forget about it for the time being. But I'm certain that as Sam goes deeper into darkness those powers will surely resurface... I don't think we'll ever see the "good" Sam use them consistantly if at all.
I myself don't believe that the Sam that died and the Sam that got resurrected are different... I think they are one and the same. If I remember correctly, what Azazel said was that Sam may not be 100% pure... and what I gathered from that is that Sam may have some demon blood in him. But you can argue that it was always the case with him; he's always been different and even before he died he was already showing signs of being more willing to inflict harm. The reason Gordon was after Sam was not because the Sam that got resurrected was different, but because the Sam of always was deemed dangerous; so I think it all ties into that.
True but when a character with demonic powers dies and gets resurrected they never usually come back the same. I think for now thats it still the same Sam but I would think that his demonic powers would have just gotten stronger so the fact that he hasn't used them yet is very interesting.
As the war gets hotter and hotter and if Dean does indeed die, I think we may get to see Sam go darkside which would be fun.
Dreaming impossible dreams.
Sapphire is awesome!
Here's another good interview with Eric Kripke. As tv shows are concerned, this guy seems to do the best interviews... seems really forthcoming and honest:
http://www.tvguide.com/news/supernat...ions/080207-02
He does interview very well more importantly the future looks very promising for Supernatural. I wonder what exactly Sam is becoming, I have some theories on this but I'll save those for later.
-Response to below, It all depends on what particular demon mythologies they are using. Since I can't quite seem to figure out what exactly they are doing yet, it seems to be just a hodge-podge, and my theories heavily depend on specific ones I'll save them till I get some more info. You could always share your ideas in the mean time.
Last edited by Abdula; Thu, 02-07-2008 at 02:47 PM.
Dreaming impossible dreams.
Sapphire is awesome!
Don't be a pussy... what are your theories?
Not really much to talk about here. There were some good lol scenes though and next week seems like its going to be hilarious. I know they were sorta preoccupied but I can't believe none of them realized that she was going to steal something from them and the most valuable thing they had was the colt. I mean of all the times they met when has she not atleast tried to steal something from them, she is a professional thief.
Did someone talk about Sam's powers, the timing is uncanny. In any case what do you guys think, powers or no powers?
Dreaming impossible dreams.
Sapphire is awesome!
I think powers...first becuase of the fact that they mentioned it after like 30 episodes. and second, he managed to control the dream even though dean couldn't, and it was deans dream that they were in. so im sure the psychic thing helped a bit.
there was some major character development on dean, and also some on bobby this ep which is always good. and ofcourse sam's dirty dream was hilarious.
I can't believe i didn't mention this last week, but that new gun, the one dean used to shoot his dream self....ruby gave them that gun last episode. so im guessing its another demon hunting gun. not to mention it looks pretty badass. kinda like a sawed off shotgun, but more compact.
Just watched the episode... the Bela and Sam scene was awesome, and Sam's reaction when he woke up was great too. The last two episodes they have tricked you... although I doubt there's going to be any romance, at the beginning of the season Dean and Bela had a thing and Ruby and Sam had a thing.... now in the last episode and on this one the roles changed.
Holy Awesome Episode Batman.
Dreaming impossible dreams.
Sapphire is awesome!
Was waiting for your bump before commenting.... I really liked the episode, but I hope Sam's destructive attitude carries over. I was also wondering, do you think Ruby or someone told Loki to play this "trick" on him in order to make him stronger and prepare him for life after Dean?
That aside, I hope you guys saw the previews for the next episode... I might go as far as to say that it will be the best episode of the whole series, it looked incredible.
Sorry I neglected to bump earlier. Yes when it was revealed that it was Loki or I should say when Sam finally found out it was Loki, since it looked like his work from the very beginning, the first thing he said was that he was trying to teach Sam something. So naturally the first thing I thought was that Ruby had put him up to it and he probably agreed just so he could mess with them for a while.
The first half of that episode was funniest scenes in Supernatural ever, without question. I mean the axe, getting mauled by a dog, choking on sausage, getting hit by a car hilarious stuff.
They have both been getting some serious development lately. Sam's transformation after his brother died while I can't say it wasn't expected it was much better than I thought it would be. I liked how this experience affected him, opened his eyes for lack of a better term. So despite what Loki said his message did get through to Sam.
Next Week=AWESOME.
Dreaming impossible dreams.
Sapphire is awesome!
what did loki say? i couldn't make out what he told sam at the end, that made same go "what do you mean".
It was a good ep, and angsty sam was friggin badass. although i doubt we'll get the same results when dean finally dies. i think this experience will effect his reaction later on.
btw, the tv-rips dont have previews....anyone know where i could watch them?
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