Super-A Rank Missions

[poopdeville]

(Hi, I'm new here)

OK, so I've been going through the Destruction of Konoha arc again, and I noticed something odd. According to Kabuto's information cards, Naruto (and presumably Sasuke and Sakura) haven't had any A or B rank missions. Fair enough, they're Genin. But when Naruto and Sakura end up having to follow Sasuke and Gaara, Kakashi tells Sakura that it will will be a Super-A rank mission, just like the Country of the Wave mission.

It seems that mission records are more-or-less public, since no one batted an eye brow when Kabuto pulled those detailed cards out. I assume that Kabuto had access to all those records, since there was no doubting his affiliation before he revealed himself as a spy. So, assuming that Kabuto's cards agree with the official records... why didn't Kakashi stick up for Team Seven and tell Sandaime that the Wave mission was a Super-A rank?

[darkmetal505]

because it was a A Rank. He put "Super" for emphasis on how important it was. If you remember, the mission was originally a C rank (I think) because the grandpa was low on money and hired them just as escorts. They didnt know they would encounter Zabuza, Demon Brothers, Gato, and Haku, which, in turn, has the relevance of a A Rank mission. And I am pretty sure Kakashi says that. As for Kabuto's cards, he would only have the official recordings wouldnt he (the C rank mission)?

[poopdeville]

I think you misunderstood my question. My question is: Why didn't Kakashi tell Sandaime about Zabuza and that the mission was Super A Rank? And if he did, why weren't the records officially changed to reflect the fact that the mission was a Super A Rank?

[Husse]

Proboply becuse it wasent an A-rank mission on the paper so to speak.

[Uberbaka]

If it was Super-A it would have been Super-A.. err.. Expensive... Wasn't that the reason in the first place that the guy just called it a C?

So I think they just left it out so other poor countries wouldn't catch on and leech off konoha's ninjas.

[kooshi]

If Kakashi reported it as an A-mission, then Konoha would've probably forced Tazuna to pay the rest.

[Necromas]

Originally posted by: kooshi
If Kakashi reported it as an A-mission, then Konoha would've probably forced Tazuna to pay the rest.

Thank you captian obvious, apparently you are needed here.

[Kagemane_no_Jutsu]

And kabuto had those info cards because hes cool and they were given to him for something he did, its supposed help the guys who fail the chuunin exam or some shit so they have info on their opponents. idk suck a ball

[heero]

Why the hell is this significant? Who the hell cares what appears on Kabuto's cards...

[darkmetal505]

Originally posted by: heero
Why the hell is this significant? Who the hell cares what appears on Kabuto's cards...

agreed, this really doesnt matter

[Tubocass]

If I'm not mistaken, once Kakashi realized grandpa was lyeing, the could have just left him. BUT they choose to continue of their own free will, for free. If they'd told the Third, grandpa would/ve been hunted down or something.


Why does any of this matter?

[XanBcoo]

Originally posted by: darkmetal505
because it was a A Rank. He put "Super" for emphasis on how important it was.

Game. Set. Match.

[poopdeville]

Because it might foreshadow some of the later plot. It seems like a mighty big coincidence that Zabuza was leaving the Hidden Village of Mist just as Orochimaru shows up to watch the Kayuga clan attack it. Especially considering that Zabuza was leaving because of his failed coup d'etat against Mizukage. Kishimoto has a track record of turning coincidences into plot points.

Ignore this post. Sorry. I didn't think I hit reply.

[XanBcoo]

All that has absolutely nothing to do with what Kakashi called the mission. You're not making sense.

Your original question has already been answered - The "super" was just for emphasis, and obviously Kakashi never told Sandaime about the Wave Country mission.

[poopdeville]

Originally posted by: Tubocass

Why does any of this matter?

I'm working on a theory.

It seems like a really big coincidence that Zabuza was leaving the Hidden Village of Mist just as Orochimaru was on his way to watch the Kaguya Clan attack it. Remember, Zabuza was leaving because of his failed coup d'etat. Could Orochimaru have pulled the strings to make a coup happen? This might even have been during his Akatsuki days (though someone correct me if I'm wrong), so maybe Akatsuki was behind the coup.

In any event, Kishimoto has a track record of turning coincidences into plot points.

[XanBcoo]

Orochimaru didn't start the coup, Zabuza did and he failed. You said that yourself twice.

This isn't filler, so everything doesn't have to involve some conspiracy with Orochimaru. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

Interesting theory though. I would like to know what Orochimaru was doing at that villiage during that time. Perhaps he was just taking an evening stroll in his nice yellow kimono.

[heero]

Originally posted by: poopdeville

Originally posted by: Tubocass

Why does any of this matter?

I'm working on a theory.

It seems like a really big coincidence that Zabuza was leaving the Hidden Village of Mist just as Orochimaru was on his way to watch the Kaguya Clan attack it. Remember, Zabuza was leaving because of his failed coup d'etat. Could Orochimaru have pulled the strings to make a coup happen? This might even have been during his Akatsuki days (though someone correct me if I'm wrong), so maybe Akatsuki was behind the coup.

In any event, Kishimoto has a track record of turning coincidences into plot points.

I still dont see how this have anything to do with Kabuto's cards and Kakashi not telling Konoha about the A rank mission

[poopdeville]

Originally posted by: XanBcoo
Your original question has already been answered - The "super" was just for emphasis, and obviously Kakashi never told Sandaime about the Wave Country mission.

Maybe English isn't your first language, but in English, the word "super" means "greater than." So according to AonE's translation, the "super" was not just for emphasis but to denote that the mission was harder than A rank. And it's not obvious that Kakashi didn't tell Sandaime about the Wave Country mission. Kakashi would have to fill out paper work detailing what happened during the time he spent there. Team Seven spent something like a month in the Country of the Wave, but the mission was only supposed to be to escort Tazuna there. Kakashi would have had to account for the extra time, since I doubt that he has the authority to give himself vacations.

For the purposes of my question, I assumed that Kakashi didn't tell Sandaime. My question was why Kakashi didn't tell Sandaime about the Wave Country mission. Indeed, in my first ever post here, I asked:

why didn't Kakashi stick up for Team Seven and tell Sandaime that the Wave mission was a Super-A rank?

(You're all like children. Christ.)

Does Kakashi know something about Zabuza we don't? Did Kakashi tell Sandaime, who then decided to suppress it, about it? To what end? Let's suppose Kakashi told Sandaime about the Wave Country mission. Why wouldn't the difficulty be a part of the official record then? Perhaps Sandaime realized or found out that Orochimaru or Akatsuki was behind the failed coup d'etat and realized Orochimaru's plan to steal all of Konoha's Cheez Whiz flavored ramen would be thwarted if no mention of the Wave Country mission were made in the public records. Or maybe he just didn't want the Chuunins and Genins, who obviously have access to these records, to not know about Orochimaru and Akatsuki.

This is blindingly obvious to anyone over ten who's thought about this for more than a tenth of a second.

[darkmetal505]

one thing you should know, english isnt always as straightforward as you believe. If you really want to know why Kakashi didnt tell the 3rd (which is pointless to ask because nobody cares), go ask Kishimoto. There is no need to go and evaluate aspects of naruto this deeply.

^
"This is blindingly obvious to anyone over ten who's thought about this for more than a tenth of a second. "

[poopdeville]

Originally posted by: XanBcoo
Orochimaru didn't start the coup, Zabuza did and he failed. You said that yourself twice.

This isn't filler, so everything doesn't have to involve some conspiracy with Orochimaru. [img][/img]

OK, this is fair enough. Maybe I've been thinking about this arc too much. But I remember Orochimaru telling Sandaime that he likes to see "things moving." I know it was Zabuza who attempted to kill Mizukage, but maybe he had Orochimaru's support. This sort of drastic political change has Orochimaru's name written all over it, especially considering his fixation with making history.