Deidara is a male.
Logic is out the window. Kishimoto does whatever it takes to make it easy on himself. He doesn't even need to think. "hmm what can i do to improve Kakashi? *30 secs later* I know! I'll give him some kind of mangekyou sharingan variation, that will be totally unexpected."Originally posted by: basey44
the reason its on permenately is because he doesnt have control over it as he doesnt have uchiha blood
which means he shouldnt have been able to get 3 dots, and def shouldntve gotten MS.
i fail to understand kishimotos logic
Poor story writing in my opinion, it has been ever since this new arc started. The defeat of Sasori was idiotic and this is even worse, gah i don't like it at all.
It's easy to explain how kakashi acquired the mangekyou. You need Uchiha Blood to develop the eye (Sharingan ability). Once the eye is acquired the blood is no longer required to train the eye i.e. to say Kakashi just needs to train the eye to learn the eye's abilities, like mangekyou.
Ya'll just peeved becuase Itachi is no longer "special!" The people that truly liked Itachi wouldn't be that peeved, because you know he was going to be killed off by Sasuke, or that Sasuke was going to be greater than Itachi (hate them bandwagon folks). Face the facts peeps.
What if when Gaara was revived he lost him memory and had to start all over again.
So here we go again with some peregrin explanations, could you explain me why any badass guy didnt take a poor uchiha with low sharingan, take his eyes out and develop them to 3 coma or mangekyou? or the same with byakugan? if you just need the eye to develop anything why dont all the s-class bad guys kidnap uchiha genins with sharingan?Originally posted by: hiten mitsurugi
It's easy to explain how kakashi acquired the mangekyou. You need Uchiha Blood to develop the eye (Sharingan ability). Once the eye is acquired the blood is no longer required to train the eye i.e. to say Kakashi just needs to train the eye to learn the eye's abilities, like mangekyou.
its too stupid, Kishimoto failed on this 1. I'm still hoping to get a "real" explanation. I suposse that kishimoto wont say anything more about kakashi's sharingan and let the explanation drawn to oblivion, and all narutards will accept it like something obvious. He could at least give kakashi some ancestors connected to uchicha, cheap and poor, but makes more sense!
bye.
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Because they're all dead maybe?Originally posted by: Edort4
So here we go again with some peregrin explanations, could you explain me why any badass guy didnt take a poor uchiha with low sharingan, take his eyes out and develop them to 3 coma or mangekyou? or the same with byakugan? if you just need the eye to develop anything why dont all the s-class bad guys kidnap uchiha genins with sharingan?Originally posted by: hiten mitsurugi
It's easy to explain how kakashi acquired the mangekyou. You need Uchiha Blood to develop the eye (Sharingan ability). Once the eye is acquired the blood is no longer required to train the eye i.e. to say Kakashi just needs to train the eye to learn the eye's abilities, like mangekyou.
"They call it 'The American Dream' because you have to be asleep to believe it" - George Carlin
Originally:
I'm not even going to answer [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img] ... i cant believe some1 said.... @#$%&¬¬$! my faith in mankind has banished [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
Now:
You ask, you get. Who are dead? byakugan users? what a shock i didnt knew it. We are talking about kakashi, got his eye ... 16 years ago? uchihas were already dead too? i suppose that medical nins have existed before rin, that s-class badass guys have existed before zabuza (a world has his past, a good writer knows to fit all events with sense, kishimoto fails on this quiet badly), no1 ever thought about it? heard about changing organs, eyes with bloodline limit? why the hell wants orochimaru sasuke so badly? get another body, with a bloodline thats not on eyes, take sasukes eyes out and there you have 2! bloodlines for the price of 1! like a supermarket. Why even bother to train sasuke and make him stronger and give him the chance to be as strong as itachi and be able to win you? just as soon as he gets into sound village capture sasuke make him go into sharingan and.. zap! eyes out into formol. i could keep going but i suppose that this made things clear [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img].
bye. no literally [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
The path of excess leads to the tower of wisdom
byeOriginally posted by: Edort4
I'm not even going to answer [img][/img] ... i cant believe some1 said.... @#$%&¬¬$! my faith in mankind has banished [img][/img]
bye.
!!spam alert, all stations set condition 1!! that bye thing is just like a... sign, courtesy, habit, you dont know when your last post will come so better be prepeared. I could have let it pass but i just felt bad having me quoted just for nothing. Try harder next time, the point to a forum is to post something, like an answer, not to get lots of post for nothing.
hi [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
The path of excess leads to the tower of wisdom
Originally posted by: Edort4
Originally:
I'm not even going to answer [img][/img] ... i cant believe some1 said.... @#$%&¬¬$! my faith in mankind has banished [img][/img]
Now:
You ask, you get. Who are dead? byakugan users? what a shock i didnt knew it. We are talking about kakashi, got his eye ... 16 years ago? uchihas were already dead too? i suppose that medical nins have existed before rin, that s-class badass guys have existed before zabuza (a world has his past, a good writer knows to fit all events with sense, kishimoto fails on this quiet badly), no1 ever thought about it? heard about changing organs, eyes with bloodline limit? why the hell wants orochimaru sasuke so badly? get another body, with a bloodline thats not on eyes, take sasukes eyes out and there you have 2! bloodlines for the price of 1! like a supermarket. Why even bother to train sasuke and make him stronger and give him the chance to be as strong as itachi and be able to win you? just as soon as he gets into sound village capture sasuke make him go into sharingan and.. zap! eyes out into formol. i could keep going but i suppose that this made things clear [img][/img].
bye. no literally [img][/img]
My belief on why Oro wants to train Sasuke to his fullest limit is so his body becomes more accustomed to Oro's possession. Like, if all Oro's power (which is a LOT) were confined in Sasuke right now, I don't think Sasuke's body is physically able to utilize Oro's power to the fullest.
"They call it 'The American Dream' because you have to be asleep to believe it" - George Carlin
l still cant get it, why dont choose another body who is strong enough to handle his great power(assuming that this is true, we have seen 2 bodys already and they didnt look like any great thing, just cute young boys), if possible with some unique abilities and get sasuke eyes only. It makes far more sense to me, i wouldnt waste my time growing a smartass like sasuke just to get his sharingan if i can take his eyes out and put them in any other body of my choice, gaining another bloodline, not losing time, and more important not creating a badass sasuke strong enough to fuck him out (what will surely happen at some point).
The path of excess leads to the tower of wisdom
Originally posted by: Edort4
l still cant get it, why dont choose another body who is strong enough to handle his great power(assuming that this is true, we have seen 2 bodys already and they didnt look like any great thing, just cute young boys), if possible with some unique abilities and get sasuke eyes only. It makes far more sense to me, i wouldnt waste my time growing a smartass like sasuke just to get his sharingan if i can take his eyes out and put them in any other body of my choice, gaining another bloodline, not losing time, and more important not creating a badass sasuke strong enough to fuck him out (what will surely happen at some point).
Because you need a Uchiha body in order to utilize the sharingan to the fullest.
Well that's an explanation he wants to be specialized on sharingan alone, but that only answers to why bother to train sasuke all other questions are still on air and this explanation doesnt help at all to them, is like a patch. He knows a body changing technique, he is an exception, even all blood could be tranfered to a new body (if he knows a technique to change bodys i assume that he nows how to transfer blood), 2 sharingan eyes and 6 liters of uchiha blood... tada!
Im quite positive that orochimaru only wants sasuke to get mature, not "only" because he needs a greater container but because he wants a young beautiful body. Its original form (he was able to handle all his chakra) wasnt a 500 feet tall guy, just a thin average guy, i would say that even small.
I can found explanation to all things in the world, the problem is that they wouldnt make sense and would be contradictory as we see on: kakashi only needs sharingan eyes to use all their abilities with a littel strain, he expents too much chakra. Imagine naruto with 2 brand new sharingan eyes! he hasnt that chakra problem at all, he would rock, maybe not a true genius but well, on his own way his a genius (learnt a jounin lvl jutsu even not being genin, learned rasengan in a month, just luck?).
It doenst matter how i look at it im a blind distrusting guy who cant get it. Dont lose your time trying to enlighting me, lost cause [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
The path of excess leads to the tower of wisdom
the reason he wants to strengthen sasuke's body with sasuke's efforts and not his own is because that was the deal they had. Oro would give him power to defeat Itachi (ie training him), then after Sasuke succeeds he allows Oro to transfer. Of course there'll be some kink in these string of events but that's the proposed plan.
I dont know why but i always tought orochimaru was a clever guy, you know he even developed the only known existing jutsu to reach inmortality. But then he trains sasuke to get stronger than itachi, because he fears itachi (so he wants sasuke to be stronger than the man he fears), and hopes that sasuke kills him and then.... submit himself to orochimaru to take over his body, and he hopes this to happen? I Suppose that i overstimated orochimaru thats all.
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