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    Good thing we've seen it already. I feel bad for the others who don't know the art of bittorent. It seems that the Movie will be realeased in the U.S in.....JANUARY!!

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    hah and remmeber the times when we all thought we'd get it 1 day earlier then japan

    but then again that trailer never existed did it square?

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    I got a copy of FF VII - Last Order, I think it's a short movie meant to be a prequel to FF VII - Advent Children, it's in anime form though. Nice story too. Guys, check it out in IRC. I got it there. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

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    FF7 Advent Children Discussion *Spoilers*

    There is already an FFVII: Last Order thread, but thanks for that.

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    Actually. Last Order is the prequel to the whole Final Fantasy VII game.

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    Originally posted by: alex_milliardo_zilch
    I got a copy of FF VII - Last Order, I think it's a short movie meant to be a prequel to FF VII - Advent Children, it's in anime form though. Nice story too. Guys, check it out in IRC. I got it there. [img][/img]
    You obviously never played the game. Last Order is an elaboration of one of the parts of the game...a rather important part. I recommend you play the game. Only then will you fully appreciate Advent Children.

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    yah, i have never played the game.. i'm currently downloading ps rom for pc at home, i think im going to start playing this weekend. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

    So Last order is not a prequel to Advent Children alone? cool. Now, i really can't wait to get a hold of the rom to start playing.

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    My friend and i are having a battle over what that monster Kadaj summoned was, hes saying its Weapon and i say its Bahamut because it was summoned like bahamut and it was summoned using the materia kadaj stole, an dalso the earth summons Weapon not people. i just want to know if im right or not and put it in a way that i can show him and make him feel stupid (if im right) xD thanks.

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    It's obviously bahamut, mostly because it's a very classic FF monster. They wouldn't pass a chance to include it.

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    The Weapons are not Summon monsters, they have no known connection with any materia.

    Kadaj clearly is using one of Cloud's materias, and since there are 3 different Bahamut summons in FF7, I think it's a damn good chance that it is Bahamut.

    Last Order covers a part of the game that is actually not required to view. After all the events at Mideel (I'm not spoiling) on Disc 2 you need to go back to the Basement of the ShinRa Mansion in Nibelheim with Cloud. Once you enter the lab/library part of the basement a flashback will start where we see many parts that are included in Last Order.

    The actual Nibelheim incident is covered in multiple parts in FF7, and again, I'm not spoiling it for those who haven't played the game, and Last Order covers both that incident and the events just before the raid on the Sector 1 Reactor and how Cloud reaches Midgar.

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    Originally posted by: Cye
    My friend and i are having a battle over what that monster Kadaj summoned was, hes saying its Weapon and i say its Bahamut because it was summoned like bahamut and it was summoned using the materia kadaj stole, an dalso the earth summons Weapon not people.
    Your pretty much on the ball. The Planet summoned the 3 Weapons right after the Black Materia was handed over, during the events at the Northern Crater (trying not to spoil here...). The Planet only calls the Weapons when it feels it is in great distress. Therefore, they have no connection to Kadaj's summoning. In short, Kadaj clearly summoned Bahamut and as Terra said, Square Enix wouldn't pass up the chance to include a fan favorite materia/GF/eidolon/aeon, whatever you wanna call it. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
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    i finally saw this movie. after all the wait and hype it was a real disapointment. the movie was just plain awful. as i feared, they focused only on the technical shit and failed in storytelling, good filmaking and solid animation. which is a shame because i love FF7 and the designs for the movie were beautiful.

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    Originally posted by: NarutoMaster
    Originally posted by: Cye
    My friend and i are having a battle over what that monster Kadaj summoned was, hes saying its Weapon and i say its Bahamut because it was summoned like bahamut and it was summoned using the materia kadaj stole, an dalso the earth summons Weapon not people.
    Your pretty much on the ball. The Planet summoned the 3 Weapons right after the Black Materia was handed over, during the events at the Northern Crater (trying not to spoil here...). The Planet only calls the Weapons when it feels it is in great distress. Therefore, they have no connection to Kadaj's summoning. In short, Kadaj clearly summoned Bahamut and as Terra said, Square Enix wouldn't pass up the chance to include a fan favorite materia/GF/eidolon/aeon, whatever you wanna call it. [img][/img]
    from what ive heard and seen on various sites it a new form of Bahamut

    Bahamut SIN
    Role in FFVII: This forum of Bahamut not in game
    Role in Movie: Summoned by Kadaj

    Bahmut is summoned by Kadaj and attacks innocent citizens of the city. In the trailers, it is the old gang from FFVII [Barret, Cid, Yuffie and Red XIII] who are shown attacking this monster.

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    i just watched the movie and it was great. but cloud reminded me of kira from gs for some reason. and i noticed no one actually bleeded or get bruises getting punched and cut 500 times except for the part where sephiroth stabbed him and blood on sword but no blood coming out from body lol

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    Best 5 Things from FFVII Advent Children:

    1. The Turks were in it! (thank god for the comic relief)
    2. Wicked wicked sick fight scenes (tho unrealistic with the physics of the bikes) The fight in the church was my favorite one.
    3. Lovely renditions of classic themes from the game, really excellent pieces.
    4. Kadaj's speech to the children at the Forgotten Capital. Man was that a great oration!
    5. Guess who's back?

    Top 5 things I disliked about FFVII Advent Children:

    1. Not enough of the other characters. Glad they gave Vincent some real air time, but way too little of Cid, Red XIII, Barret and the others. I even thought there was too much of the Turks in it (i know, this is like a blasphemy) and sorta wished they'd shown the effects outside of Midgar...

    2. Cloud = Kira Yamato? I also noticed some differences in his personality, especially from the way FFVII ended. He seemed way too guiltful and brooding. Thought I was watching Squall from FFVIII instead! No real explanation of how he 'lost that strong feeling' which he'd gained over the course of FFVII and used in the final battle...

    3. The way the final fight ended. Dude, how lame was that "I have multiple swords, and you only have one" trick he pulled? No style at all!

    4. Not enough utilization of the materia. Looks like they used Bolt a few times, and the Summon, but that was really all I saw...

    5. Overall lack of delivery of the story. Felt the unfolding of events and usage of flashbacks were placed/paced horribly. Would have been a subpar movie if not for the well-know characters and the references to a revered classic.

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    Originally posted by: masamuneehs
    4. Not enough utilization of the materia. Looks like they used Bolt a few times, and the Summon, but that was really all I saw...
    You didn't see Quake or Haste? Yazoo used both of these at the Forgotten Capital. Cloud stopped the Quake with one of his Limit Breaks (its the first one of the second level...can't remember the name but I know the second one is Climhazzard, which he used on Bahamut). And when Yazoo started running to charge at him, I'm pretty sure that was the Time materia (specifically Haste magic).
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    ^^^^^ Oh yeh! The Quake I remember now (tho it sorta just looked like he punched into the ground and that sent a shock-wave...) But you're right, that probably was Haste magic there! Was wondering what was going on there!

    And the use of Limits in the movie were pretty cool too. Cloud used Blade Beam, Tifa used almost all her abilities, thought Barret charged up a Big Shot for a moment, Red attacked Bahamut with Sled Fang, Cid did the Spear Jump (pretty lame Limit IMO) and I'm almost sure Cloud used other Limits, though I can't really recall them right now...

    I wish they had Vincent transform into one of his forms (preferably Chaos) for a Limit.... Would probably have stolen the spotlight from Cloud...

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    Originally posted by: masamuneehs

    And the use of Limits in the movie were pretty cool too. Cloud used Blade Beam, Tifa used almost all her abilities, thought Barret charged up a Big Shot for a moment, Red attacked Bahamut with Sled Fang, Cid did the Spear Jump (pretty lame Limit IMO) and I'm almost sure Cloud used other Limits, though I can't really recall them right now....
    If they had to use one of cids limit breaks they should have used the dynomite one where he lights it on his cig that would have been cool

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    3. The way the final fight ended. Dude, how lame was that "I have multiple swords, and you only have one" trick he pulled? No style at all!
    Yeah man! Way to dis the most bitchin part of the movie! You sly rebel you.


    And on that note, a really bitchin link

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    Originally posted by: DarthEnder
    And on that note, a really bitchin link

    The Buster Blade
    Awesome link. I've been looking for a picture of Cloud's individual blades. Thanks for sharing.

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