Having watched the episode 4 more times I suddenly realized that I overrated it because Lacus almost got shot.
I still think it was a good episode though but the spur of the moment made me think it was much better than it was, though many of my compliments still stand.
It was an ok ep, but the idea of the ambush was a bit much. So ZAFT had an opportunity to take out Lacus, Kira, and Athrun, and all they brought was a few guys with gunsand grenades? If they took out those 3 their opposition would essentually be eliminated. It would be worth pretty much any cost. Why not stash some bombs, lure them in, and then blow the whole thing up? Or gas them? Or call in the troops? Or some mobile suits? Dullandil and ZAFT should have smarter than that lame plan.
Other things, um, Athrun's shades were cool. And it was kind of interesting that Lacus told Meer that if she wanted to keep the idol-Lacus persona she could. I guess Lacus has really separated herself from her past... I was wondering if she would take over ORB at the end of the show, but now I think she will stick to the quiet life with Kira.
Well, it's already known what happens to Lacus and Kira after the series....about a month afterwards they are walking down the street talking about how the world is such a great place, there is love in the air and all that good crap. Then out of nowhere, a stampede of elephants runs through the street, running over them, slapping them around with their trunks....and there is no more kira and lacus....so sad...so very sad [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]
Saw the subbed version. Still stick with what i said in my original post. Kira was useless. Why? I believe because he still has that good for nothing "no kill policy." Kira is in check under Lacus, I think she has brainwashed him. If you think the Chairman is bad with his Destiny plan, Lacus might already have implemented her own Destiny plan, with Kira as her test subject. I'm actually a Kira fan, and Lacus is cool.
Actually, pretty good episode, I liked it besides the stupid spelling error on Meer's card and the way Meer artistically falls to the ground after being shot. Really now, who the hell falls like that?
Kira was the one who shot the gernade, going with what I saw here.
Athuran did complete ownage.
And the next episode on Meer is pretty sad to be this far in the series... Now I'm going to give Fukuda the benefit of the doubt (a very BIG benefit) and hope that this episode as well as the one on REY has some serious purpose for this series....
so what're the ancient theater ruins doing on a moon surface city?
Aramis, well naturally this meeting harps back to when Lacus met Athrun at the abandoned theatre in the Seed series, and slightly earlier in Destiny when Athrun met Kira and Cagalli at some ruins on Earth. Why are their Romanesque ampitheatre ruins on the moon? It just goes with Fukuda's theme about acting and media and all that jazz.
I'm pretty disappointed so far in this series. I feel like Destiny was formulated with one idea in mind, but then Fukuda changed his around episode 34. Now he's just going around on tangents, and seems to really be into this whole Meer-Lacus thing. He's also left 3 episodes and we still know almost nothing about Dullindal and Talia (nothing concrete) NOTHING ABOUT REY! and we're totally in the dark on how Dullindal will try to implement his Destiny Plan. Looks like the pacing is totally gone for this series, and my only hope is that they go over the 50 episode limit to finish the series properly. At this rate it looks like episode 49 and 50 will be a bitch-ton of fighting, deaths, reprisals of old Lacus Faction speeches, Dullindal's ideals and battleship fighting.
How did the ArchAngel get clearance to land on the moon? How does ORB have a base there? The EAF just got defeated and ZAFT's moon fleet is occupying, I'd guess, THE MOON. So they just let their enemy slip in like that?
And what a crappy ambush! No MS? They were on foot for god's sake! And its not like you just had to kill Lacus, you had a great chance to wipe out almost all of ArchAngel's pilots. A sniper? A couple machine guns? Grenades? The Arabs have RPGs, Stingers, Rocket Launchers. (Or a big bomb to destroy the entire amphitheatre, just as a fall-back measure, duh!) and the most advanced Coordinator state in space comes at them with 1 easily distracted sniper and 3 or 4 guys? Pathetic.
I was glad that Athrun shot to kill.
And looks like Kira joined in on blasting that Sarah chick to death. No wait, he was a pussy and just pointed his gun...
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Oh and for the whole did Kira shoot the grenade back at Sarah discussion. Look at their positions, Meryin down on one knee, Kira standing. In the clip of the grenade being shot there is one shot that misses because it is too low and the three more, all coming from very similair angles. Also, the first shot that misses is the low one, and then come the three. Meryin fires first, then Kira.
Looks to me from the angles that it was Kira's shot that knocked the nade back at Sarah. Obviously it was done so nobody could tell for sure, but I'm damn confident it was him.
Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".
Sting looks cooler in semi-transparent glasses than Athrun does.
Also, seeing Athrun wearing those reminded me on the whole Alex Dino thing. Thinking back, what the hell was the point of that? It lasted for what, 2 episodes?
don't worry... Alex Dino will be back! somehow...
this ep was good i think... and really... i don't see how they can end this in a satisfactory way in 4 eps...
dammit... although a Berserk type of ending would come as a shock!
Berserk type ending?
*imagines Shinn raping Lacus and slashing off Kira's limbs & eye*
berserk type ending??? ummm...i dont know if a mass gang rape on lacus or cagalli (or anyone for that matter) is congruent with the tone of the show, but then again fukada does seem to write on his own whims
*drools uncontrollably on the ground*
note: a sadistic kind of drool, not a hentai-loving one
Well I hope you guys are prepared because threre is gonna be a Gundam Seed III Double Destiny. They don't have enough time to finish the series in 4 ep. Keep in mind that two of these are about people's lives. The last battle is gonna be so fucked. Hell I still wanna know how they get to that point of getting into a final battle. I doubt that Kira and Athrun will just go "Screw it! Dullindal got Meer killed! Lets go kill him!" then load up the Meteor's and start a shoot out at that station. I don't even see how Dullindal messes up to the point where a battle can begin. The only way I see that happening is if they exploit Meer for who she really was and I don't think they would do that.
If its the same plot then its going to be a second season, not a whole new Gundam Seed series. Where did you get that info? or was it just your understanding?
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is anyone even sure that it's gonna end in episode 50? or are everyone thinking that cause Seed was that long.
This was a good episode. Few things I noticed from it.
It's downright logic that Kira can't use a gun like Athrun. Reasons already stated quite a few times in this thread. And the Kira haters are using this as a form of "I hate Kira and his stupid views, what an unrealistic character and he was so useless in this episode" when In my view, if Fukuda put Kira who in his life has never trained using a gun, all of the sudden becomes an expert marksman because he is superior and whatnot....then that would be something pretty fucked up and would surely be something worth pissing the Kira haters off. So how's that for a realistic character?
Man. Meer is FUGLY!! I wouldn't blame her if she wanted a new appearence and name.
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Deblas, when your right your right.Originally posted by: Deblas
Man. Meer is FUGLY!! I wouldn't blame her if she wanted a new appearence and name.
For all you awesome people, it's just Phoenix. The numbers are just the amount of times people misspell it.
that doesnt change that fact that he does nothing and sucks...Originally posted by: Deblas
This was a good episode. Few things I noticed from it.
It's downright logic that Kira can't use a gun like Athrun. Reasons already stated quite a few times in this thread. And the Kira haters are using this as a form of "I hate Kira and his stupid views, what an unrealistic character and he was so useless in this episode" when In my view, if Fukuda put Kira who in his life has never trained using a gun, all of the sudden becomes an expert marksman because he is superior and whatnot....then that would be something pretty fucked up and would surely be something worth pissing the Kira haters off. So how's that for a realistic character?
Man. Meer is FUGLY!! I wouldn't blame her if she wanted a new appearence and name.
Actually Kira became a very good pilot the instint he got on a gundam so its not like this kind of stuff hasnt happened...Originally posted by: Deblas
This was a good episode. Few things I noticed from it.
It's downright logic that Kira can't use a gun like Athrun. Reasons already stated quite a few times in this thread. And the Kira haters are using this as a form of "I hate Kira and his stupid views, what an unrealistic character and he was so useless in this episode" when In my view, if Fukuda put Kira who in his life has never trained using a gun, all of the sudden becomes an expert marksman because he is superior and whatnot....then that would be something pretty fucked up and would surely be something worth pissing the Kira haters off. So how's that for a realistic character?
Man. Meer is FUGLY!! I wouldn't blame her if she wanted a new appearence and name.
Okay. I can understand when you say he sucks. Many people hate him because of his attitude. But saying he does nothing is crossing the line. Sure he didn't do much in this episode cause of his no kill policy and the fact that he sucks using a hand gun. But as we all know, get him in a MS and he can do anything. Err...except kill. But that doesn't count in MS battles. Disabling is just as good.Originally posted by: drunkenmaster
that doesnt change that fact that he does nothing and sucks...Originally posted by: Deblas
This was a good episode. Few things I noticed from it.
It's downright logic that Kira can't use a gun like Athrun. Reasons already stated quite a few times in this thread. And the Kira haters are using this as a form of "I hate Kira and his stupid views, what an unrealistic character and he was so useless in this episode" when In my view, if Fukuda put Kira who in his life has never trained using a gun, all of the sudden becomes an expert marksman because he is superior and whatnot....then that would be something pretty fucked up and would surely be something worth pissing the Kira haters off. So how's that for a realistic character?
Man. Meer is FUGLY!! I wouldn't blame her if she wanted a new appearence and name.
Okay, that is a big difference. In seed they said that coordinators are born with the capability to harness skills but they also need to study or train so they can master it. They are not born knowing it. I always thought that Kira was able to control Strike so fast and easily because although he is the ultimate coordinator that gave him a big boost. He had a vast knowledge on computers and physics and math and whatever he was studying at his college.Originally posted by: heero
Actually Kira became a very good pilot the instint he got on a gundam so its not like this kind of stuff hasnt happened...
He never trained or used a gun before or something that remotly resembles a gun. So, no knowledge of it. No skill.
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Do you have any evidence to prove that Kira has learned anything about Gundams prior to the first episode of Seed then? I could switch one word in ur last section and apply ur logic the same way. "He never trained or used a gundam before or something that remotly resembles a gundam. So, no knowledge of it. No skill." - apparently thats not true. And about the knowledge he has about computers from college, Gundams take way more than that to comprehand.. If it was that ez, any nerd who knows a whole lot more about computers could of been a better pilot than Kira.Originally posted by: Deblas
Okay, that is a big difference. In seed they said that coordinators are born with the capability to harness skills but they also need to study or train so they can master it. They are not born knowing it. I always thought that Kira was able to control Strike so fast and easily because although he is the ultimate coordinator that gave him a big boost. He had a vast knowledge on computers and physics and math and whatever he was studying at his college.
He never trained or used a gun before or something that remotly resembles a gun. So, no knowledge of it. No skill.
Okay, Its obvious he never knew about gundams Idiot. It was TOP SECRET. Yes. Gundams take more knowledge than just computers and science but it does apply at being able to control one. So thats where the ULTIMATE COORDINATOR HUGE BOOST COMES IN that I said in my previous post.Originally posted by: heero
Do you have any evidence to prove that Kira has learned anything about Gundams prior to the first episode of Seed then? I could switch one word in ur last section and apply ur logic the same way. "He never trained or used a gundam before or something that remotly resembles a gundam. So, no knowledge of it. No skill." - apparently thats not true. And about the knowledge he has about computers from college, Gundams take way more than that to comprehand.. If it was that ez, any nerd who knows a whole lot more about computers could of been a better pilot than Kira.
Does being the ultimate coordinator have to do with using a gun perfectly? Apparently not cause he sucked at using one.
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