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[drunkenmaster]

Originally posted by: Takeda Natsuke
"OOOH SHINN please fuck me you killed my sister, its the least you could do!"

Let's change that around, shall we?

"OOOH KIRA please fuck me you killed my FATHER, its the least you could do!"

*coughfllaycoughwheeze*

Anyways...

It's best to realize that some people look more for emotional comfort that practical revenge. Shinn is a soldier. Athrun and Meyrin are considered "Traitors". Shinn is ordered to kill them. Shinn reluctantly does. Shinn is sorry. Luna goes in emtional shock for a few hours. Shin says sorry. They hug. Shinn cannot do anything else to console her than to make her feel good in a sensual level. Hook up.

If you couldn't see that and were actually more enthralled by the "thing" that is Shinn x Stellar, which was filled with so much freakin substance, you, my friend, need to get out more.

-My look at it-
Stellar panics and says "I don't want to die!"
Shinn suddenly becomes superman and decides "I will fight for you no matter what, even if I don't know one damn thing about you!"
Stellar actually FORGETS who Shinn is in three seconds.
Stellar stops being a drug addict, "Oh... Shinn... I remember you now."
Shinn COMPLETELY doesn't care that she killed Heine (YOU BITC- I mean, aww..) and piloted a death machine and decides "I'll STILL protect the girl I don't know a damn thing about!"
-End-

Oh yeah... reaaaaly romantic...

On the other hand, Luna and Shinn have known each other almost their whole lives. The minute they hugged i said to myself, "Yup she's gonna get laid tonight."

Why? Cause Fukuda is one hell of a drama queen.

Shinn x Luna is good. It's a little too late for a lot of development, but good.

And yes, Luna can't aim... You try shooting a rocket going 500+ MPH with a high tech battle suit that you just got a few days ago.

Can't?

...Exactly.

Ja na.

exactly we cant shoot a friggin rocket cuz we are like students... u cant compare luna to us in combat ability. thats like comparing one thing that is completely different from another and then thinking one of them is amazing. like since i can write and my 2 year old sister cant, i must be amazing at writing. we have 0 skill at shooting in a gundam comparing her to us is just retarded. she has piolted mobile suits and has expierence. even if she just got it, its the same thing when it comes to aiming and its actually better than her zaku. she has no excuse. for example if you give us a gun and ask us to shoot a target we would probably miss. if you ask someone that is slightly better and they ALMOST hit, they still suck, just not as sucky as us. just because we miss and then they miss doesnt make them good..... u cant compare gundam piolts to friggin anime fans.

[aznimperialx]

OMG shut up everyone whos aruging about luna. Fukuda made luna miss so that lipstick guy can escape and make this big beam that will end the damn world. And then the gundams will kill him at the end, making the finale. If he was killed at esp. 43 Zaft and ORb would stop fighting and then the rest of the esps will jsut be more talking blah blah blah

[drunkenmaster]

im not gonna stop if ppl keep saying she has good aim cuz she missed. infact this is the first time i even responded to this topic

[Phoenix20578]

Originally posted by: aznimperialx
OMG shut up everyone whos aruging about luna. Fukuda made luna miss so that lipstick guy can escape and make this big beam that will end the damn world. And then the gundams will kill him at the end, making the finale. If he was killed at esp. 43 Zaft and ORb would stop fighting and then the rest of the esps will jsut be more talking blah blah blah

See, people in forums understand those things, they just don't care. They'll whine and bitch untill thier blue in the face, even if the thing they're bitching about progressed the story.

[Curium]

Originally posted by: Takeda Natsuke
"OOOH SHINN please fuck me you killed my sister, its the least you could do!"

Let's change that around, shall we?

"OOOH KIRA please fuck me you killed my FATHER, its the least you could do!"

*coughfllaycoughwheeze*

Except Kira DIDN'T KILL HER FATHER. He failed to protect him yes, but he didn't kill him. He was busy fighting one of the other Gundams (I can't remember which one) who had a better pilot then Kira was at that point. Flay initial reaction was not to jump in bed with Kira but to hate him. It was later when she had time to think she decided to manipulate him.

Oh, and if you reply I probably won't read it, I don't really care, it's just that I don't think this is a fair compairison since the situation is not the same.

[Digitalgirl]

Originally posted by: Curium

Originally posted by: Takeda Natsuke
"OOOH SHINN please fuck me you killed my sister, its the least you could do!"

Let's change that around, shall we?

"OOOH KIRA please fuck me you killed my FATHER, its the least you could do!"

*coughfllaycoughwheeze*

Except Kira DIDN'T KILL HER FATHER. He failed to protect him yes, but he didn't kill him. He was busy fighting one of the other Gundams (I can't remember which one) who had a better pilot then Kira was at that point. Flay initial reaction was not to jump in bed with Kira but to hate him. It was later when she had time to think she decided to manipulate him.

Oh, and if you reply I probably won't read it, I don't really care, it's just that I don't think this is a fair compairison since the situation is not the same.

Kira was fighting Aegis [Athrun].

[SFreedomZGMFx20a]

Still i insist, every time i watch Luna and Shinn kissing or being close, i feel sick.

[ArcZero]

i just don't understand why people would rather see shinn with stellar instead of luna. i mean luna's a normal, good looking girl who he actually knows something about besides her name. then there's stellar, who's alittle slow and retarded yet good looking and he knows nothing about her except her name and she's a drug addict.

and for those of you who thinks she'd be crazy in bed. i bet it's the exact opposite. she'll be like "what's a penis and why do i have a hole between my legs???"
lol

[PSJ]

Okey, lets just stop saying "Fukuda is to blame ofr what happened" That fucking kills the discussion and isn't smart or witty. It was fine when people said it once in a while as a joke but it has gotten a bit to much now, just like the Udon jokes a year or so ago.

[Terracosmo]

Yeah, when you think about it, using "it's Fukuda's fault" as an argument kinda nullifies all discussion because everything that happens is because of him.

[Roko]

C'mon guys, you should blame the Murasames for having sucky OS and pilots who can't aim from 32502503892 kilometers away.

Seriously though, you can't really blame anyone for not shooting down that shuttle. But you gotta admit: Luna had the potential; she is after all, a red coat elite.

[Splash!]

I don't know who planned the whole operation but it was some pretty dumb planning. I mean if i were attacking ORB knowing Djibril was there, i would take into account the fact that he was definitely gonna try and escape when ORB's position was unfavorable. Hence there should have been 1 or 2 Zaft fleets patrolling space in line with ORB just to make sure that Djibril didnt get away and shoot him down once he exited the earths atmosphere. I mean its not that he immediately teleported to requiem as soon as he entered space

[Terracosmo]

I guess Fukuda overestimated the intelligence of the overall Seed fan. Most of us don't need an explanation to why their kiss happened.
It's just those of you who feel like "omfg lol they just hook up wtf they clearly fukkd and Shinn is unfaithful to Steaellrr!!!" that need one. And you are too stupid to deserve it. Har!

[PSJ]

Alukard there is no need to give a detailed explanation on the course of Athrun's and Cagalli's relationship and then do a halfassed job on the Shinn and Luna relationship part. Your post is nothing more than hate for Shinn which automaticlly makes everything you post random shit. If you are going to post about the relationships do it somewhat objectivly, you post could easliy have been "Luna shouldn't hook up with Shinn, i hate Shinn.".

[alukard]

do a halfassed job on the Shinn and Luna relationship part.

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That's because there's more to Athrun and Cagalli vs Shinn and Luna.

Shinn is the typical teenager fighting to avenge his family who died on Orb territory because of their belief in an ideal peace. This lead him to avenge his family by joining the military after their family died due to an accident. On Minerva Shinn and Luna are comrades and grew as close friends fighting along side by side. Shinn plays tag with Zaft and EA gundams and things didnt get serious with Luna until after Shinn kills her sister. After a brief encounter with the ghost of christmas past, Shinn wants to put a fork in the eye of his old pal after seeing that Athrun is still alive (and perhaps there may be a chance that Meyrin is also) but he gives Luna cold drafts instead. Luna suddenly is turned on by this cold-blooded manliness and decides to grab her new man & give him a smack or two rewarding him for his gallantry and heroism for slaying her 'evil' sibling and a rogue, dangerous deserter. Their relationship is based on comforting each other through their adolescent teen years and initiative into adulthood through these cold, lonely, & turbulent times.

There, that should cover the 'important' parts of the Asuka-Hawke relationship. It important thing was not just that there's more to Cagalli & Athrun's story but that Shinn-Luna had almost no story; Athrun shot Cagalli's sibling and Shinn shot Meyrin but that's where the significance of their relationships ends.

[masamuneehs]

I can only wonder WHERE Lunamaria's attraction to Shinn came from? Didn't she used to be ga-ga for Athrun? And didn't Athrun always make Shinn out to be a hot-headed idiot? Well anyhow, I guess he needs to blow his load someway....

Oh, and looks like Rey will be fighting alot next episode. Good luck Rey, may the Dark Side of the Force be with you.

[Terracosmo]

Hasn't Luna always been supportive of Shinn? All the times Shinn has acted badly or whatnot, Luna has been there to either console him or reassure the surroundings that he really means no harm. Also, it still hasn't been stated that they have an relationship - which they probably don't. Who gives a shit about them anyway, I want to know about Gil's & Talia's relationship. Who was the child that Talia mentioned? Why did they have sex in the beginning of the show even though they decided to go separate ways? Why is Talia even in freakin' ZAFT even though she left Gil originally?

Now there's things I want answered

[Motteh]

Originally posted by: Terracosmo
Hasn't Luna always been supportive of Shinn? All the times Shinn has acted badly or whatnot, Luna has been there to either console him or reassure the surroundings that he really means no harm. Also, it still hasn't been stated that they have an relationship - which they probably don't. Who gives a shit about them anyway, I want to know about Gil's & Talia's relationship. Who was the child that Talia mentioned? Why did they have sex in the beginning of the show even though they decided to go separate ways? Why is Talia even in freakin' ZAFT even though she left Gil originally?

Now there's things I want answered

a partial answer to that is found in the Edited episode i believe
that's where Talia says she can no longer be with Gil since she wants to have a child (so that would mean that ZAFT/Plant couple people together at random? isn't that illogical?)
and assuming they did have sex it could be explained that they still have feelings for eachother, since they were separated quite forcefully
but they don't say if Talia had a child whatsoever
and about Talia being in Zaft, that might be because of Junius 7, since that was a reason for many coordinators to enlist, even though she strikes me as a bit too old to enlist and make such a rapid promotion

anyways, the latter part is speculation and i'm not quite sure the first is totally accurate either, would have to watch the Edited episode again for that

[Kovash]

Originally posted by: Terracosmo
Why did they have sex in the beginning of the show even though they decided to go separate ways? Why is Talia even in freakin' ZAFT even though she left Gil originally?

Now there's things I want answered

Correct me if I'm wrong - but I'm pretty sure they were both already in ZAFT when they met, they were either in the acadamy or some other station and they fell in love, then they get posted to differing assignments and dillundal is seperated from her and is unable to follow her because the millitary has rules agaisnt coupling between ranks. Then, they have sex at the beginning of Destiny because Dillundal is now the Supreme Chairman and can do whatever the hell he wants.

[PSJ]

Originally posted by: Kovash

Originally posted by: Terracosmo
Why did they have sex in the beginning of the show even though they decided to go separate ways? Why is Talia even in freakin' ZAFT even though she left Gil originally?

Now there's things I want answered

Correct me if I'm wrong - but I'm pretty sure they were both already in ZAFT when they met, they were either in the acadamy or some other station and they fell in love, then they get posted to differing assignments and dillundal is seperated from her and is unable to follow her because the millitary has rules agaisnt coupling between ranks. Then, they have sex at the beginning of Destiny because Dillundal is now the Supreme Chairman and can do whatever the hell he wants.

That sounds like bs to me. Give me a reference to where that is said. Sounds like something you just made up on your own.

There was talk about a baby and if i remember correctly Talia hooked up with another man or left with another man after she and Dullindal talked about seperating. That flashback really goes the other way from the show since she is in ZAFT and doesn't seem to have a child and to top it of sleeping with the man she didn't want to be with.

@ Alukard, if that "detailed" explanation of Luna's and Shinn's relationship is serious i don't know what to say. Also i find this line rather funny "Shinn is the typical teenager fighting to avenge his family who died on Orb territory because of their belief in an ideal peace." if you would have stopped after "Shinn is the typical teenager fighting to avenge his family who died" it wouldn't be anything wierd with it but it certainly sounds funny when you include the ORB part. The lines about Luna being turned on by Shinn's manliness and all that was quite funny to, good comedy.