Originally posted by: SFreedomZGMFx20a
Originally posted by: masamuneehs
Ok you all. Unless you've forgotten what happened, the Clyne faction does have money, Lacus does have supporters and ORB does have Morgenrate.
BUT consider this: For most of Destiny ORB has been fighting against the ArchAngel & crew under the direction of Yuna Roma. Do you think they'd just let Morgenrate supply weapons to their enemy? Countries develop weapons because they have billions of tax dollars and human resources to use to research and develop massive weapons. They also keep a tight lid so that their best secrets and recent developments aren't stolen by random do-gooders & other factions.
Consider this: Almost everyone in ZAFT believed that Dullindal's Meer Campbell was the real Lacus FOR ALMOST ALL OF DESTINY! There is no explanation how/if/when the Clyne faction people found out which Lacus was the real one, it is totally left out. Also, if ZAFT has any kind of modernized banking system Lacus' purchasing of military hardware would draw a zillion red flags. Also, who in ZAFT would sell them weapons to develop IJ and the new Justice? Who in the Clyne faction would even be in the position to disobey Dullindal, steal and sell ZAFT's military secrets to Lacus? This is also never explained. Who are her spies who can access Dullindal's dubious Destiny Plan? How come nobody else could find anything about it? This is also not explained.
A big Factory floating in space that ZAFT has no idea about? A splinter group of Morgenrate working under who to supply the AA? Top of the line military hardware being smuggled outside of two nations THAT ARE AT FREAKIN WAR PEOPLE and handed over to a popstar and her cohorts who have been slipping around in the background and never come forward with a formal statement until episode 44? TOP OF THE FUCKING LINE MILITARY HARDWARE PEOPLE! Anyone have any clue how fucking impossible it'd be for some popstar and a dethroned ORB ambassador to pay for all that?
I DON'T WANT DEUS-EX-MACHINA BULLSHIT! I WILL NOT ACCEPT HALF ANSWERS! I WILL SHOUT AND YELL AND CRITICIZE UNTIL THINGS ARE EXPLAINED PROPERLY!
EDIT: Oh, and to those who keep talking about Clyne faction supporters, please tell me who these people are, where they've been the entire Destiny series, how they can openly defy Dullindal (who will pay them better than Lacus) and then I'll believe that the Clyne faction isn't some BS invention of cheesiness by Fukuda.
Ok, here are some thoughts, use ur f*****g brain. As a start, its trute that such an amount of money can draw red flags, but, who said she has only one bank account? who said she used a bank ccount?. F starters, u want to know names?, ok, REVEREND MARKIO is like a mediator between the JUNK GUILD and ZAFT, EAF, and ORB, so the JUNK GUILD can sell and do the things they do, REVEREND MARKIO is a supporter, former Charirwoman Canarvas must be other supporter, and who knows how much ppl. With Reverend Markio and former Chairwoman Canarvas would be enough.
Another question, do u really think the CLyne Faction receive orders by TV?. The real Lacus musthave channel to contact the members, Eternal's crew obviously know her, but in war or anything INTEL is always what can give u the upper hand, if they didnt do anything was because for a start, they didnt know exactly what were Dullindal's true intention (Proof to what the Destiny Plan is starts to appear in Phase 39) u must have at least this much brain, or do u need them to explain every bit of information and plot?.
Orb or Jona Roma wasnt supplying AA weapons, as u must have realized in Phase 42, AA wasnt in Morgaenraete, It was hided in an ISland (i could bet my life saying it was secret base only AA's Crew and close engineers working for Erica Simons knew about. In Phase 15, i think, Orb mentioned AA as an unknown, so AA wasnt officially part of ORB, it was like a secret weapon, what reason would Orb have to attack or try to stop AA if is part of their military, at that moment AA was hided in the same secret island or maybe another one. Just so u see what Orb's Representative can do.
What top of the line military was Smuggled? maybe i missed that one. Ill be waiting for ur answer.
Why would Lacus pruchase military hardware? SHE has a f*****g factory, where did that factory come from? It was obviously build or it was aleady built after the war 2 years ago (and moved). Reverend Markio has connections, a lot of connections with the JUNK GUILD (i hope by now u understand theeir name), getting materials and hardware they cant build would be easy, or at least highly doable. BTW, they didnt Assemble IJ and SF, they were BUILT almost from scratch (obviously they build based on Freedom and Justice).
Who would disobey Dullindals and sell military secrets to Lacus? What did they Sell her? what military secrets? The DOM Troopers were built in Lacus' Factory (or maybe the factory belongs to some of her supporters, that isnt clear yet). IJ and SF were built, again, based on Freedom and Justice, and upgraded.
Who r Lacus' spies who had acces to Dullindal's Destiny Plan? HAVE U BEEN WATCHING THE SHOW? Or u just had some time and put together some s**t?. DaCosta was investigating the asteroid Mendel and found the Diary wer e possibly the Destiny Plan is explained, the show still has some episodes left so wait till it ends b4 asking.
The factory nobody knew about, as i said, could probably have been moved from its original location, after all asteroids do move, and last time i checked the Universe had a lot of space were to build a factory secretly, or maybe it could have been done the same way GENESIS was.
Ok, i think i covered all.