Phase 42 discussion

**redemption2** · Sat, 08-06-2005, 04:07 PM

Oh, Awesome Awesome AWESOME! Will someone please get that hit on GIF for me? Let's see, a quick recap, ORB vs. ZAFT, Destiny Vs. Akatsuki, Destiny vs. Freedom, Lacus in a pink flight suit *drool*, Lacus in her "ninja" outfit *double drool*, DOM Lightstream Attack, and Cagalli vs. Yuuna. I won't say any more because it will spoil it all. Now for the kill count of the episode:

Freedom: 16
Akatsuki: 2
Destiny: 7
ZAFT Grunts: 7, 1 Ship
ORB Grunts: 4
DOM Troopers: 15

Pretty good haul for the day I'd say. Also, does anyone know what that third mobile suit in the Eternal's Hangar was? It doesn't look like Strike. From left to right the order was, Unknown, SF, and IJ, so what could that first one be?

**MeroTZ** · Sat, 08-06-2005, 04:10 PM

If the rest of the series can keep this shit up....

Well, that will be freaking incredible.

I want a DOM. So. Bad. They are too freaking good.

Lacus looks good in a pilot suit.

Athrun + Kira = Ass whoopin' that Shinn and Rey cant begin to imagine. Shinn's long overdue, and this episode was the prepayment on a bill he's not even started to pay. Kira totally owned... he disarmed Destiny of its most powerful weapon, and all around rocked. To be fair, Shinn had expended some valuable weapons, but hey.

God, I cant wait for 43

**SFreedomZGMFx20a** · Sat, 08-06-2005, 05:08 PM

Oh, yeah i forgot to metion that. Shinn really was pissed off because he couldnt overpower Freedom, now we know Destiny isnt Nuclear powered. It looks too, like DRAGOON really cant work in Earth's Atmosphera, such a shame.

I really didnt like Lacus in the Pink Pilot Suit, but i was drooling all over my keyboard when i saw her in the, i think is a short black ninja suit.

When Meyring saw her she was like "WTH now i have to compete against Cagalli and Lacus-sama". Cant wait to see how Athrun pilots IJustice.

Now something that has been bothering since Phase 39, Why Kira and Athrun dont call the MS by its names? It is Strike Freedom and Infinite Justice, they make them sound a little cheap every time they sortie "Freedom" "Justice".

BTW, i think the Doms will be way better in Space, i think one of the pilots mentioned something like "The Earth's Gravity really is something" or something around those lines. Doms really are something.

Minerva's Captain really needs to change sides, she is losing authority aboard Minerva, next time Rey will be giving orders on how to attack AA.

Next Saturday i will be having classes so i will watch it around 5 hours after most of u so have fun assisting to the PREMIERE. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

**MeroTZ** · Sat, 08-06-2005, 05:41 PM

I like how they refer to them as just Freedom and Justice. Referring to them by their full names would be.... unrealistic?

I was so happy in 39 when Kira said freedom and not strike freedom.

**Curium** · Sat, 08-06-2005, 07:15 PM

I thought it was interesting that some Orb soldiers turned traitor to help Djbril. I could be wrong (I don't know what they are saying) but it looked like some soldiers came to arrest him and they were killed by other soldiers.

Oh, and Guardian, I still refuse to admit Neo might be Mwu. Extreme coincidence, thats all it is.

**Strike Freedom** · Sat, 08-06-2005, 07:20 PM

http://www.hiro-fansubs.com/ The subbed version by HIRO is out, enjoy guys

**SFreedomZGMFx20a** · Sat, 08-06-2005, 07:25 PM

Someone beat me to the punch.

**Sano** · Sat, 08-06-2005, 07:32 PM

Thanks for the subbed link!!

**dspR** · Sat, 08-06-2005, 08:07 PM

You gotta love the Cagalli punch.

**zn|¹** · Sat, 08-06-2005, 08:22 PM

Oh, yeah i forgot to metion that. Shinn really was pissed off because he couldnt overpower Freedom, now we know Destiny isnt Nuclear powered. It looks too, like DRAGOON really cant work in Earth's Atmosphera, such a shame.

No... Destiny IS nuclear powered... either A.) The directors screwed up or B.) It has something to do with the whole Duetrion factor.

DESTINY MOS -
G - Gunnery
U - United
N - Nuclear
D - Duetrion
A - Advanced
M - Maneuver

**Curium** · Sat, 08-06-2005, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by: Strike Freedom
http://www.hiro-fansubs.com/ The subbed version by HIRO is out, enjoy guys

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**shiro03** · Sat, 08-06-2005, 08:54 PM

wow! i really enjoy those DOM trooper, they look soooo cooool.wahahahahaahhaah bulldozing their way thru those ZAKUs.they have a combo too! interesting!

i wonder where did lacus find those pliots.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

oh 1 more thing the look of shin's face when he saw SF kekekeekekeke[img]i/expressions/beer.gif[/img]

**SFreedomZGMFx20a** · Sat, 08-06-2005, 09:05 PM

Originally posted by: zn|¹

Oh, yeah i forgot to metion that. Shinn really was pissed off because he couldnt overpower Freedom, now we know Destiny isnt Nuclear powered. It looks too, like DRAGOON really cant work in Earth's Atmosphera, such a shame.

No... Destiny IS nuclear powered... either A.) The directors screwed up or B.) It has something to do with the whole Duetrion factor.

DESTINY MOS -
G - Gunnery
U - United
N - Nuclear
D - Duetrion
A - Advanced
M - Maneuver

It could be, and it looks like Destiny has two power sources because the screen where the remain power appears are two counters that says "PRIMARY" and "SECONDARY". If its nuclear powered, then we know how much attacks Shinn does with so little effect. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img].

Good question about where Lacus found the Dom Trooper's Pilots. Now it wouldnt be so surprising if Lacus really has a GENESIS up her sleeve, this girls says "PEACE" yet she has pretty nice toys. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]. So sexy, Kira was lucky to met her.

**Strike Freedom** · Sat, 08-06-2005, 09:54 PM

Originally posted by: SFreedomZGMFx20a

Good question about where Lacus found the Dom Trooper's Pilots. Now it wouldnt be so surprising if Lacus really has a GENESIS up her sleeve, this girls says "PEACE" yet she has pretty nice toys. [img][/img]. So sexy, Kira was lucky to met her.

Lucky dog indeed, but I wouldn't want to piss her off if I was Kira [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

**redemption2** · Sat, 08-06-2005, 10:06 PM

There's one thing that bugs me. The only Nuclear suit in existance was Freedom. After the war, the N-Jammer Canceller was banned, thus making Nuclear suits impossible to make. Meaning that Dullindal is breaking some MAJOR regulations here to give them power.

**Miro69** · Sat, 08-06-2005, 10:14 PM

things i learned from this episode:

a) shinn acts just like an emo druggie. he doesnt wanna back out of the fight and he keeps wanting to go after the protagonist. go figure >_>"no.. i can still fight!" *screenshot of dead power in his gundam*

b) lacus does a magical jump from her flight suit to her katana suit without anyone else noticing.

c) the black tri-stars live again! ... and now do a jet stream attack... *yawns* so its ANOTHER trinity. what else is new?

for the most part, the episode was enjoyable. except athrun's character development is still making me go wtf? i wanted to just skip past it because it was soooo boring. it seemed to bog down thet pace of the episode from super fast to 'must give athrun some time to realize who he truly is because he doesnt know and lacus must tell him'.

**Strike Freedom** · Sat, 08-06-2005, 10:23 PM

Originally posted by: Miro69
things i learned from this episode:

a) shinn acts just like an emo druggie. he doesnt wanna back out of the fight and he keeps wanting to go after the protagonist. go figure >_>"no.. i can still fight!" *screenshot of dead power in his gundam*

b) lacus does a magical jump from her flight suit to her katana suit without anyone else noticing.

c) the black tri-stars live again! ... and now do a jet stream attack... *yawns* so its ANOTHER trinity. what else is new?

for the most part, the episode was enjoyable. except athrun's character development is still making me go wtf? i wanted to just skip past it because it was soooo boring. it seemed to bog down thet pace of the episode from super fast to 'must give athrun some time to realize who he truly is because he doesnt know and lacus must tell him'.

I'll be honest, I agree. I've had it with Athuran's development, I mean how much longer. It really feels that out of the the three (Shinn, Kira & Athuran), he is the main character. He's always been there, not that there is anything wrong with that. I like Athuran, I just wish he wasn't so indecisive anymore. I mean, after leaving the Minerva, he was pretty set on the chairman being the villian. What gives with him still being perplexed? I really hope Athuran goes SEED, although I highly doubt it. But hey, one can dream. Rey and Shinn both need to be given a reality check, especially Shinn who is over confident. Complacency is dangerous. So we'll c what happens, but JUSTICE better bring some hell of a counter attack. From the look of things, Athuran gives Shinn his regular speech, but Shinn attacks anyhow. Well, if Athuran is playing a parent figure by giving lectures, then he needs to give the disobedient child a good spanking. I'm sorry, but I just cannot stand Shinn anymore with his arrogant attitude.

**Curium** · Sat, 08-06-2005, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by: redemption2
There's one thing that bugs me. The only Nuclear suit in existance was Freedom. After the war, the N-Jammer Canceller was banned, thus making Nuclear suits impossible to make. Meaning that Dullindal is breaking some MAJOR regulations here to give them power.

Well, the EAF broke the treaty first when they launched nukes at PLANT. After that it wouldn't surprise me that he felt he was no longer restricted by that treaty. Also the Mirage Coloid was banned in the same treaty, it was used by the Girty Lue when it was waiting for the gundams to be stolen, and now in Destiny.

Originally posted by: Miro69
except athrun's character development is still making me go wtf? i wanted to just skip past it because it was soooo boring. it seemed to bog down thet pace of the episode from super fast to 'must give athrun some time to realize who he truly is because he doesnt know and lacus must tell him'.

Personally I'm waiting to judge that part to see the results. If we still have the wishy-washy indecisive Athrun we have had most of Destiny then I will consider it bad since it accomplished nothing. If, however, he acctually gets his head on straight after this then it is a great part that should have happened 25 episodes ago.

**Cion** · Sat, 08-06-2005, 10:41 PM

Ok i now i watched the sub vers i find it interesting how Rey spoke of Freedom.
He said they meant to provoke him and that SF is a phantom, so Rey still thinks Kira is dead?
I didn't know the Dom trio was on Clyne faction side, to bad they are bound to die.
All trios have died so far, pity since i found them interesting.

Since a few wondered about the dom trio, here is some info:
"At least three DOM Troopers are built by the Clyne Faction at Terminal, whose pilots include Hilda Harken (team leader, pilot of unit 003), Herbert Von Reinhardt (pilot of unit 004), and Mars Simeon (pilot of unit 009), veterans of the Second Battle of Jachin Due who joined the Clyne Faction after the war's end. Their specialty is the "Jet Stream Attack", which allows them to combine the power of three mobile suit into one through a highly synchronized attack. This maneuver involves the three DOMs attacking a single target in rapid succession, with each pilot using a different weapon"

^info from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZGMF-XX09T_DOM_Trooper

**Barandax** · Sat, 08-06-2005, 11:13 PM

I'm pretty sure the third suit in the hanger was Gaia or possibly Strike being repaired, I'll have to watch that part again to be certain. As for Destiny running out of power it could just be that Duetrion is some type of nuclear fuel, different from regular batteries to provide the power that Destiny requires to operate its engines to move at such speed and sustaine the phase shift armor, but still limited in operation time. The Chairman is trying to stay good in the public eye and using illegal tech like n-jammer cancelers might give him a bad reputation or maybe something that can be used against him by the politicians who knows.

Is it mentioned in Destinys specs that the extra images are provided by a Mirage Coloid system? I must have missed that somehow if it is cause then I can't fathom why the Chairman wouldnt use a true nuclear engine.

Unless it is some major oversight, I would have to say that Destiny is not nuclear powered at all. There is no way it could drain a reactor from the stuff it does while Strike Freedom is shooting a zillion beams everywhere, the power consumption ratios just dont add up.

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