rasangan vs. chidori

[ChaosK]

they're completely different jutsus, if your talking about sheer power, then rasnegan is better as jiraya said "i'll teach you a jutsu that is better than chidori"

but this thread is mostly opinionated and most people just go with whichever looks cooler which would be the chidori(i think raikari makes more sense but whatever)

chidori requires immense speed, and a good eye to see the counter incase the chidori fails to kill somebody. so far we've seen the chidori and rasnegan clash only straight on. but, if somebody has mastered chidori they can use it to surprise the enemy like kakashi did in the manga (when he was young) and just went from target to target, rasnegan cant do that.

rasnegan requires you to be able to control and harvest your chakra into a sphere and never let go of the concentration you put in it otherwise, it will fuck up. when the rasnegan hits most enemies it causes the enemy to spin or something, this shows you the kind of rotation control needed to keep the rasnegan in a sphere form. powerwise, i'd say rasnegan is stronger IF you were just counting on power but we see the chidori puncture a person a couple of times but we never saw the rasnegan do this, partly becuase chidori looks in the shape of a chakra made blade that can cut through anything, while rasnegan just smacks into something and bulldozes it. the speed used to make the chidori strong is what gives it the power to penetrate a person's skin, while naruto's rasnegan is just him running at a enemy and sticking his hand out.

i vote for chidori because its cooler but i really dont think you can judge them.

[Jadugar]

Originally posted by: Chaoskiddo
i vote for chidori because its cooler but i really dont think you can judge them.

Yes, you can judge them.

Originally posted by: Chaoskiddo
as jiraya said "i'll teach you a jutsu that is better than chidori"

Read your own fucking post.

[aznroyale]

Rasangan is better but i still like Chidori better

[XanBcoo]

Originally posted by: Jadugar

Originally posted by: Chaoskiddo
i vote for chidori because its cooler but i really dont think you can judge them.

Yes, you can judge them.

You're an idiot Jadugar.
While I don't neccessarily agree, these are valid points you quoted. You can't really judge the two jutsu because they are quite different. It's pretty evident that neither is "better" and that they work differently under different circumstances. Each have their pros and cons - go ahead and read the rest of the posts in this thread. This is a stupid dicussion that will have no conclusion. Just vote for which one is cooler and be done with it.

Originally posted by: Jadugar

Originally posted by: Chaoskiddo
as jiraya said "i'll teach you a jutsu that is better than chidori"

Read your own fucking post.

If you read his fucking post, then you'd know that he quoted Jiraiya speaking of Rasengan's power, and not its overall quality.

[The Heretic Azazel]

If you read his fucking post, then you'd know that he quoted Jiraiya speaking of Rasengan's power, and not its overall quality.[/quote]

Jadugar is the emotional equivalent of a 6 year old, I wouldn't worry so much about arguing with him.

[Jadugar]

Originally posted by: xanbcoob]
While I don't neccessarily agree, these are valid points you quoted. You can't really judge the two jutsu because they are quite different. It's pretty evident that neither is "better" and that they work differently under different circumstances. Each have their pros and cons - go ahead and read the rest of the posts in this thread. This is a stupid dicussion that will have no conclusion. Just vote for which one is cooler and be done with it.

True, Chidori is cooler.

They both are different but I am talking about their head on collision, like we saw in the Sasuke Vs Naruto fight.

What about rasengan powered by the kayubi?

Originally posted by: The Heretic Azazel

you'd know that he quoted Jiraiya speaking of Rasengan's power, and not its overall quality.

Jiraya's exact words were, "I'll teach you a jutsu that is better than chidori".

He doesnt mention the the power of chidori or rasengan.

I think I'will take the words of Sanin.

Also the rasengan is the jitsu created by the genious fouth Hokage.

[BioAlien]

created by the genious fouth Hokage

ya right and it took him 3 years to master it...

[Jadugar]

Originally posted by: BioAlien

created by the genious fouth Hokage

ya right and it took him 3 years to master it...

Read the fucking topic. Its rasengan vs Chidori not quote some guy's post and make a stupid comment.

Love to hear about your thoughts on rasengan vs chidori.

[Strike Freedom]

I'd say that they're pretty much equal. They just impact the enemy differently. My response is short, simple and to the point [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

[BioAlien]

you are just mad because what i said was true, and the rasengan is more powerful, we can clearly see the power between rasengan and chidori in episode 108

[Jadugar]

Originally posted by: BioAlien
you are just mad because what i said was true, and the rasengan is more powerful, we can clearly see the power between rasengan and chidori in episode 108

You havent seen me mad and you will definitely know when I am.

And what you said was

Originally posted by: BioAlien
ya right and it took him 3 years to master it...

WTF. Is that suppose to be an arguement ? Ninjas train for years.

Yes, I do think Resengan is more powerful than Chidori. Read my posts again you moron.

[chet_chetty]

I seriously think Kishimoto set up Rasengan to be much greater than Chidori but for the sake of storyline had the chidori beat out rasengan in their fight. If rasengan won, Sasuke would be brought back and we're done with that which is dumb and would never happen.

It seems based on the rooftop fight, chidori cuts through at constant crazy power from beginning to end while rasengan has an initial power (much less than chidori) but increases power almost exponentially as shown in the huge rupture in the back of the water tank. We also see this when Kabuto gets hit, does the cell regeneration, then feels it again to the point where he passes out.

Also since this is a kids cartoon, i think the rasengan's power was immensely reduced. Why else in the filler are the targets just spun around instead of some big bloody hole in their bodies? A huge piece of metal gets ruptured while on a person they only spin? yeah right. With chidori, they can show the true effect cuz it's essentialy a deep powerful knife stab that has minimal blood and gore.

And if we compare the originators of the jutsu, Kakashi is a genius ninja who developed chidori but i doubt it took him 3 years to develop/master. The 4th was a genius greater in all aspects to Kakashi and still it took him 3 years. You think a jutsu like that would tie or be outdone by chidori? On paper it sounds all wrong.

[Mut]

Originally posted by: chet_chetty
Also since this is a kids cartoon, i think the rasengan's power was immensely reduced. Why else in the filler are the targets just spun around instead of some big bloody hole in their bodies? A huge piece of metal gets ruptured while on a person they only spin? yeah right. With chidori, they can show the true effect cuz it's essentialy a deep powerful knife stab that has minimal blood and gore.

What we're shown in the anime is pretty much the exact same as the manga. The manga is suppose to be the unedited, more graphic version. The problem with rasengan is that, for it to do its maximum, full damage, the target has to be completely immobile (as shown with the water tank, or the tree) or it will just be pushed back. However, as for chidori, the move itself doesn't need any forward movement (like the rasengan), nor for the target to be immobile. From what we seen, you should be able to just throw a piece of wood at it and see the wood disintegrate due to its nature. If you did that with the rasengan, then we should see the wood just bounce right off. The blood and gore now showing from the injuries caused by rasengan is this reason, it has almost nothing to do with it being a "kids" show.

And if we compare the originators of the jutsu, Kakashi is a genius ninja who developed chidori but i doubt it took him 3 years to develop/master. The 4th was a genius greater in all aspects to Kakashi and still it took him 3 years. You think a jutsu like that would tie or be outdone by chidori? On paper it sounds all wrong.

There is absolutely no indication that the 4th was a genius greater in all aspect to Kakashi. If we lay out all of the information, attributes, rumors, facts, and indications of everyone and compare them, Kakashi would probably be the one of the top 3 greatest ninjas. But this is mainly because we've learned so much information about him while we've barely heard anything about the Sannin, 3rd, 4th and Akatsuki.

Edit: I'm not saying that Kakashi could beat the 4th or anyone I listed. I'm just saying we have more proof that Kakashi was so great in so many areas, whereas we haven't really heard anything about anyone else.

[XanBcoo]

I'd say just from Rumors and the Kakashi Gaiden alone that the fourth was more powerful and more of a genious than Kakashi.

Kakashi still pwns though, I just meant that he's no 4th Hokage.

[chet_chetty]

Originally posted by: Mut@chi
Edit: I'm not saying that Kakashi could beat the 4th or anyone I listed. I'm just saying we have more proof that Kakashi was so great in so many areas, whereas we haven't really heard anything about anyone else.

Do we really need proof? I think the hierarchy in itself is indicative enough for us to say that the 4th is better in most (probably not all) aspects to Kakashi. We may not know which hokage was the best (altho it is supposed to be the 3rd in his prime?), or which of the 3 sannins is the best, or which akatsuki member is clearly the strongest, or which jounin is the best (altho we have more proof on this than anthing else). But the hierarchy is clear enough to say that all sannins, hokages, and akatsuki members, are better 1 on 1 vs any of the jounins.

All we really know about the 4th is that he was strong enough to seal the strongest of the 9 demons, albeit giving up his life to do so, and he was fast/skillful enough to take out entire armies w/ little effort. Kakashi is badass but not that badass.

So yes i'm still on the trip that by comparing the 4th and Kakashi and the efforts they went through to develop their respective jutsus, we can conclude that rasengan *should* be stronger than chidori.

And since naruto and sasuke's fight indicates chidori is stronger, it has to be for storyline purposes or specific infight factors that allowed chidori to beat rasengan in that instance.

[Jadugar]

The 4th was a Hokage, how can you compare that to Kakashi being a Jounin.

[Binary_Prophet]

Easy way to explain the almost non-fatal look of rasengan is the fact that it took the fourth three years to master... Naruto can use it, but it is far from mastered. The rasengan is about control, and in such is more versitile than the chidori because you control how strong it is, meaning you can use it to wind, stun, KO, or kill. The reason we have yet to see it seriously harm/kill someone is because the one person to have it mastered, Jiraya, has yet to use it to try and kill someone...

[The Heretic Azazel]

Naruto was supposed to have mastered it when he finished the balloon techniques.

[Jadugar]

We still havent seen the full potential of rasengan. I think Naruto will develop it further more.

[Rhanfahl]

I still feel this way

Rasengan = Power sander

Chidori = Nailgun

I wouldn't want to encounter either on my flesh, both would suck, hurt like hell.

The point is as with almost everything in this forum. The info is just not there to support a decision either way...