Game: Final Fantasy

[masamuneehs]

I was just wondering where people were getting their FF12 info from?

I really don't know jack about the upcoming FF, and thats probably a shame because I'm almost certainly going to buy it. I didn't play FFX-2, FFXI (two years of Everquest was about as much online RPGing that I could stand for a lifetime) or any of the Kindgom Hearts. I only briefly rented Xenosaga (which i hated, btw), so its been awhile since i've picked up a good Square game.

I was always hoping that Summoned monsters would be based on the individual characters. One character being able to make a pact with Ifrit and then turn around and do the same with Shiva never really boded well with me... I'd imagine such powerful and ancient creatures would have their own agendas and preferences in who they answered to...

[bagandscalpel]

Originally posted by: masamuneehs
I was always hoping that Summoned monsters would be based on the individual characters. One character being able to make a pact with Ifrit and then turn around and do the same with Shiva never really boded well with me... I'd imagine such powerful and ancient creatures would have their own agendas and preferences in who they answered to...

Not a bad idea at all...

And, I think they tried to somewhat implement that in VIII with the compatibility system. Now, I know that saying such a thing is easily defeated by the fact that the compatibility system can be tweaked so that any GF could favor EVERYbody, but I'm pretty sure that when you first get a GF, its preferences usually favor one character out of the rest. So in a sense, it has been done.

[Board of Command]

IMO FF7 was definitely the most memorable game of them all. It may not be the *best* game, but it's the one game you will surely remember for the rest of your life. The atmosphere was just unreal.

But of course this is only counting games with "Final Fantasy" in the title. Of all the Square games, I'd have to say Xenogears was the ultimate creation. (I sense Chrono Trigger fans coming my way)

[mage]

just got FF4 advance 2 days ago, sweet game. 5 and 6 advance are coming out sometime this year, hopefully they'll be on different carts.

[Xollence]

FF4 Advanced was fun, but it's a lot shorter than the other FF games and the story isn't as good. It's still fun to play though.

[ChaosK]

Originally posted by: masamuneehs
I was just wondering where people were getting their FF12 info from?

I really don't know jack about the upcoming FF, and thats probably a shame because I'm almost certainly going to buy it. I didn't play FFX-2, FFXI (two years of Everquest was about as much online RPGing that I could stand for a lifetime) or any of the Kindgom Hearts. I only briefly rented Xenosaga (which i hated, btw), so its been awhile since i've picked up a good Square game.

I was always hoping that Summoned monsters would be based on the individual characters. One character being able to make a pact with Ifrit and then turn around and do the same with Shiva never really boded well with me... I'd imagine such powerful and ancient creatures would have their own agendas and preferences in who they answered to...

to be honest i'm not too sure but theres an FF-XII demo released and i have it, the play was pretty fun. the battling is as you run into people like in a kingdom hearts game, you fight whoever you run into, you dont meet an enemy and the whole thing zooms into a battle scene. but you still have waits and you attack in turns, so its like a combination.

[SamuraiX-]

Yeah, I really enjoyed how they incoporated the new monster battle system from FFXI. Random battles are so overrated nowadays. XD

[Paulyboy]

Originally posted by: mage
just got FF4 advance 2 days ago, sweet game. 5 and 6 advance are coming out sometime this year, hopefully they'll be on different carts.

Yeah I played that game way back, I liked it and the storyline was good. I just remembered that when you get your holy powers, your level resets back to one, and the only way to lvl up faster is to kill your party members and fight by yourself. It was a b****, I was like lvl 50-60 then it goes back to 1 lol but anyways it was a cool game.


Edit: Also my friend let my play the demo, the battle system is sweet, and the summons look alot different they use the Esper system or whatever, and their special moves are cool.

[anphorus]

Originally posted by: Paulyboy
Yeah I played that game way back, I liked it and the storyline was good. I just remembered that when you get your holy powers, your level resets back to one, and the only way to lvl up faster is to kill your party members and fight by yourself. It was a b****, I was like lvl 50-60 then it goes back to 1 lol but anyways it was a cool game.

Actually, if you don't level up like crazy beforehand you should be at about level 20ish when you get your holy powers. And if you are Paladin Cecil at level 1 is more powerful than Dark Knight Cecil at level 20-ish, so it actually isn't that bad. And of course, being at a low level he levels up faster, so he soon catches up. His power doesn't increase too much from levels 1-20-something though, just so that he isn't unbalencingly powerful.

Originally posted by: BOARD_of_command
But of course this is only counting games with "Final Fantasy" in the title. Of all the Square games, I'd have to say Xenogears was the ultimate creation. (I sense Chrono Trigger fans coming my way)

You are correct sir! Chrono trigger was the best game of it's kind ever created. The plot, characters, music, everything about the game was sublime. I still have "Frog's Theme" as the ringtone on my mobile phone </hugegeek>

[mage]

Originally posted by: Paulyboy

Originally posted by: mage
just got FF4 advance 2 days ago, sweet game. 5 and 6 advance are coming out sometime this year, hopefully they'll be on different carts.

Yeah I played that game way back, I liked it and the storyline was good. I just remembered that when you get your holy powers, your level resets back to one, and the only way to lvl up faster is to kill your party members and fight by yourself. It was a b****, I was like lvl 50-60 then it goes back to 1 lol but anyways it was a cool game.


Edit: Also my friend let my play the demo, the battle system is sweet, and the summons look alot different they use the Esper system or whatever, and their special moves are cool.

you were level 50-60 when you became a paladin? lol

[Board of Command]

Originally posted by: anphorus

Originally posted by: BOARD_of_command
But of course this is only counting games with "Final Fantasy" in the title. Of all the Square games, I'd have to say Xenogears was the ultimate creation. (I sense Chrono Trigger fans coming my way)

You are correct sir! Chrono trigger was the best game of it's kind ever created. The plot, characters, music, everything about the game was sublime. I still have "Frog's Theme" as the ringtone on my mobile phone </hugegeek>

No you're mistaken. Xenogears is the best game ever made. I'll admit Chrono Trigger was amazing, but Xenogears is just too much. Too much.

[Divinity]

Originally posted by: anphorus
You are correct sir! Chrono trigger was the best game of it's kind ever created. The plot, characters, music, everything about the game was sublime. I still have "Frog's Theme" as the ringtone on my mobile phone </hugegeek>

Chrono Trigger and Secret of Mana.

[Paulyboy]

Originally posted by: mage

Originally posted by: Paulyboy

Originally posted by: mage
just got FF4 advance 2 days ago, sweet game. 5 and 6 advance are coming out sometime this year, hopefully they'll be on different carts.

Yeah I played that game way back, I liked it and the storyline was good. I just remembered that when you get your holy powers, your level resets back to one, and the only way to lvl up faster is to kill your party members and fight by yourself. It was a b****, I was like lvl 50-60 then it goes back to 1 lol but anyways it was a cool game.


Edit: Also my friend let my play the demo, the battle system is sweet, and the summons look alot different they use the Esper system or whatever, and their special moves are cool.

you were level 50-60 when you became a paladin? lol

NO no no, I was lvl 50-60 Dark Knight Cecil, and then I went back to lvl when I got my paladin powers. Its a good game though [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

[ChaosK]

oh this reminds me, how did you guys use the espers? i couldnt summon them in FFXII

[Board of Command]

I just started Chrono Trigger again because the last time I played it was in grade 7. I need to rehash my memory of that game.

[anphorus]

You'll be glad you did! I must've replayed that game around 10 times or so. Including a low-level game which was really cool (Finished the entire game with Crono only ever earning 7 xp).

Good Times....

[Uchiha Barles]

Originally posted by: BOARD_of_command

Originally posted by: anphorus

Originally posted by: BOARD_of_command
But of course this is only counting games with "Final Fantasy" in the title. Of all the Square games, I'd have to say Xenogears was the ultimate creation. (I sense Chrono Trigger fans coming my way)

You are correct sir! Chrono trigger was the best game of it's kind ever created. The plot, characters, music, everything about the game was sublime. I still have "Frog's Theme" as the ringtone on my mobile phone </hugegeek>

No you're mistaken. Xenogears is the best game ever made. I'll admit Chrono Trigger was amazing, but Xenogears is just too much. Too much.

I've gotta agree with Board. I'm halfway into Xenogears and frankly, that game blows almost every final fantasy game out of the water. The game play itself is freaking amazing. Come on, two of the main characters know kung fu...KUNG FU! and not the keanu reeves variation either, and you actually have to press button combinations for your characters to perform combinations...that's fucking sweet. Gear combat is actually quite fun as well. And story...I have never seen a story that goes as in depth as this game does and remain so awesome. I have yet to see the ending, but like minded people have told this game does not disappoint, ever.

Of the final fantasy games, my favorite was final fantasy tactics. Its one of my favorite games of all time, and of the square games, only rivaled by Xenogears. What I liked about that game other than the story is the gameplay. Finally an RPG where all of your characters need not be hit by an area attack. I don't know if I've said this before, but the tactics world is incredibly dark. You don't get the proper idea just by playing game the game through normally. You have to do all those propositions and get the hidden treasures and hidden locations and read their descriptions to REALLY get the idea. The Zodiac Braves are only half the story...

[Board of Command]

Half way through Xenogears? I'm guessing you're not on disk 2 yet. I'll tell you one thing: you'll either love disk 2 or hate it. The style certainly doesn't appeal to a lot of people out there. If you happen to like disk 2, you will be worshipping this game and thinking about it every second of your life for a little while.

*****MAKE SURE YOU DO THE EMERALDA SIDE QUEST*****
Read a walkthrough if needed, it is the best 30 minutes you will ever invest in your life.

[masamuneehs]

Originally posted by: BOARD_of_command
Half way through Xenogears? I'm guessing you're not on disk 2 yet. I'll tell you one thing: you'll either love disk 2 or hate it. The style certainly doesn't appeal to a lot of people out there. If you happen to like disk 2, you will be worshipping this game and thinking about it every second of your life for a little while.

*****MAKE SURE YOU DO THE EMERALDA SIDE QUEST*****
Read a walkthrough if needed, it is the best 30 minutes you will ever invest in your life.

Amen, the Emeralda side quest, and some of the other extra goodies available at the end of Disc 2 are not to be missed.

But, and this comes from a guy that used to have a Xenogears signature, I think your reaction to Disc 2 will be "WTF?" especially after your comments on gameplay. Well, I won't ruin anything. I'll just reiterate one of the things I've always said, "Xenogears MUST have a remake! For the love of God!"

although, i hear the original developing team behind Xenogears split up... But whoever is releasing those crappy Xenosaga games could do it. And it wouldn't even be that hard. Just redo the game with better graphics, flesh it out a little more in spots, and keep EVERYTHING that was there before. Maybe add some side quests or something, but a remake shouldn't be that tough.

[Board of Command]

**Possible Spoilers**

I personally think disk 2 was perfect they way it was because it really fit in with the sudden turn of events in the storyline. It was when the storyline went from the traditional "save the world" to "ZOMFG THIS ROXXORS TEH BIG ONE!!11" I just loved the style of disk 2 in every way.

I think what they need to make is an anime series for Xenogears, maybe a 50 episode series. The type of story Xenogears brings to the table is perfectly fitting for the anime genre.

The developers of Xenogears split from Square after the FF7 was made and joined Namco to produce the Xenosaga series. I read that apparently Xenosaga is the prequel to Xenogears and there are "supposedly" 5 episodes leading up to the time of Xenogears. The Xenosaga anime is episode 1, which was when they discovered Zohar and the wave existence 15000 years prior to the events in Xenogears. Episode 3 or 4 is about the Zeboim civilization seen in Emeralda's side quest (which would FUCKING ROCK MY WORLD). It's all speculation as to how closely related Xenogears and Xenosaga really are, because despite all the similarities, there is no KOS-MOS reference anywhere in Xenogears.