episode 39 discussion

[darkshadow]

Originally posted by: Chris_Xion
Darkshadow,i wasnt talkin bs,when i said Shinn's DAYS of maintenance and tuning on Destiny,i didnt say anything bout chasing athrun,juz look at ep38,Shinn only utilized Destiny's full power at Heaven's Base,n that must be days rite?

And u see Kira configured his OS to full optimization within SECONDS,n he wasnt even fully using SF's weapons yet(that's his 1st time in SF,i'm sure his skills with it will improve overtime,he didnt use SF's beam rifles combined)

So i hope this reply satisfies u

destiny was the same against athrun as it was against the heavens base defense, can you point out 1 thing it didnt use in the athrun fight??, he wa sholding back a bit sure, but i didnt c a major upgrade on destiny in heavens base, if there was an upgrade at all, and how would you know shinn spend day and night in destiny tuning it up??, sure he tinkered with it, but saying something that wasnt even shown cant be considered as a fact, and kira was forced to reprogram, im not saying shinn can do the same as fast as kira, but stating something that wasnt shown is stupid

[Guardian_2000]

you guys need to get up on times between the fansubs its just a matter of preference for the most part. Haro helps the idiots and is alil more prettier while SEED is abit more technically accurate. Not to mention those like myself are worried that Haro is gonna start slipping in their race to be the faster with them and SEED Fansubs. Atleast the SEED its not a race and they care about quality of speed. But there must be something up if more people download SEED over Haro atleast by checking the trackers.

I gotta love how in this ep we get another confirmation that Neo is really Mwu. After openning the channel to the bridge from the med bay. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] Wasnt there someone still not convinced that Neo was Mwu?

[Barumonk]

Some of you underestimate the ending battle given to the episode. Its not as important that he just did the same thing as always, its that Kira is a newtype now, this alone has a huge impact on his abilities and can be considered just as important as Kira's first SEED mode battle. Putting this in a realistic perspective for GS/D, combine the piloting abilities of old Kira with Mwu/Neo/Rau/Rey, and this is the new Kira. In a greater perspective, you could say Kira has enhanced mind abilities now, that can do anything from spacial awareness (detecting stealth units, to knowing when someone is coming up behind him) to frying people's brains if they come too close, although I doubt it will get anywhere near that insane. ^^;;

[Nyro]

I like HaroTori's type-setting more then SEED fansubs. Thats why I watched HaroTori. If SEED has changed their font and style I might consider making the switch. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

[Terracosmo]

Kira? A newtype? Now? WTF?

I don't get it

[Nyro]

I think he's referring to that weird white flash Kira got. But I don't think that says anything about newtype this or that. I'm not even sure what the definition of newtype in CE is.

[FelixZeroAlastor]

Doesn't Kira have enough power as it is. He sure did a lot of damage in this episode without going Seed mode. doesn't anyone else find that bad. Him becoming a newtype is really bad. I doubt that Shinn can even touch him once Kira full awakens his newtype powers.

[Terracosmo]

Great, let's awaken Kira's mystical latent unexplained fucking newtype powers 10 eps before the series ends... just because he REALLY NEEDS MORE POWER.

Time to kill some manuscript writers for ruining the series

[JerV]

I think the flash just represents that he was using the Dragoon system and like with Legend anyone can use the new dragoon system

[Barumonk]

From technical specs, Kira's DRAGOON system is the same as the ones from Chaos that Sting used, and yet he never had a flash. On the opposite end, Mwu, Rau, and Rey have had flashes while using a mobile suit which didn't even have the DRAGOON system (infact, in one case, Mwu vs Rau didn't have a DRAGOON equiped anything within a few thousand miles).

[Curium]

Originally posted by: Millenium-Boyz

Originally posted by: Curium

Originally posted by: Millenium-Boyz
in this episode SF doesnt combine both of its laser rifle, but when he use the himat he use his chest canon, and one rifle left hand and one rifle right hand

I just checked, Kira doesn't use the Chest cannon there, so he doesn't use it at all this ep.

if you watched it frame by frame, at the point where he used the HiMAt for the 1st time, you can count it all up, 8 dragoons, by his side, 2 rail canons from his hips, 2 laser rifles from his hand , and one redish laser come from his body, you cant really see whether the reddish laser came out from the chest canon, coz it blocked by the rail canon's laser and the left laser rifle

You are right, sorry about that.

[FelixZeroAlastor]

Originally posted by: JerV
I think the flash just represents that he was using the Dragoon system and like with Legend anyone can use the new dragoon system

That doesn't apply to SF though.

Also I bet that next time Kira goes Seed mode he'll fry someones brain.

[Curium]

Originally posted by: Guardian_2000
I gotta love how in this ep we get another confirmation that Neo is really Mwu. After openning the channel to the bridge from the med bay. [img][/img] Wasnt there someone still not convinced that Neo was Mwu?

That would be me. This doesn't do it either. Archangel was a EAF ship. I can't think of any reason for the communication code to the bridge to be different from one ship to another or for Archangel to change it after they left the EAF. If some intruder did contact the bridge all it would do is tell the crew where they were.

Originally posted by: Millenium-Boyz
Shit! im still wondering how could LAcus got those DOMS unit, and how could she also got Strike Freedom or the design of the SF, and what is this with this "Destiny plan" what is it?

They had a factory back at that asteroid that they were hiding in. That is why Eternal launched so that it wouldn't be discovered.

If Kira really is a new-type now, can he use both new-type and seed at the same time? He is devestating with either one, but both at once would be insane.

[PSJ]

If Kira becomes a newtype now this show will be ruined. Why doesn't he just go to each base of both ZAFT and EA and destroy everything and then proceed to his throne and claim his title as "King of the World"? On his side he got Athrun who is the next strongest pilot in this show only rivaled by Shinn possibly. At that he got AA and Eternal with the Clyne Faction.

The guy doesn't need any Newtype powers, he is good enough as it is. He is almost to good even without using SEED mode, he is an amazing pilot.

[dspR]

In my opinion, Kira has surpassed his own abilities without utilizing the deadly Seed mode.
Who knows if Kira will use Seed mode now, but that would be a powerful combination.

[ChaosK]

yes kira will use seed mode, its still called "Gundam SEED Destiny" and of course he'll go around killing people in it.

edit: i didnt really catch it while watching the raw, and i'm not sure if its been answered in this unusually long episode discusson but, where are the deflectors located on SF? (j/w) i didnt see any yet, beams just stopped...

[FelixZeroAlastor]

Well since Seed Mode enhances abilities and mental awareness and all that mumbo jumbo, if you combine that with newtype abilites then that will make him A GOD of all pilots. Soon all other newtypes shall look like ants under the mighty shoe of KIRA YAMATO. Then I won't have to watch this show anymore if Kira is really a newtype. He will be like the fisrt Jedi. He won't just fry people's brains. He'll control them with his omnipitent powers. He won't even need a Gundam. He'll just make everyone kill each other.

Edit: If he has newtype powers it probably was part of the package of being the ultimate coordinator.

[naruto-kira]

wut is a new type i still dont know...anyone help me out on here

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http://www.gundam-seed-d.net/mechanics/main5.html

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So it has a new model engine and some other specs to give it several times the combat ability of Freedom...which means... whoo!! it is most definately faster than Freedom.

EDIT:

A new-type was first introduced in the original Gundam Series in which the main character, Amuro Ray, and a select few others were gifted with pretty much psychic powers that gave them an incredible edge in battle while in a MS. New-types can sense impending attacks use their abilities to manipulate people etc. Unlike Coordinators, they are few in number, but face that same type of discrimination that coordinators do.

[naruto-kira]

well kira been a new type all along.. haven't he??...., he had the same type of instincts as Amuro Ray, in battle too, also Athrun has that too...,i scene it... but Shinn have it doesn't...