Suzuka

[kenren]

Woot...Thanks for the link.

[Board of Command]

Is it just me or did the animation in ep 19 look sub-par?

[kenren]

Hmm...im still downloading.
What's "sub-par" ?

[Kraco]

Originally posted by: BOARD_of_command
Is it just me or did the animation in ep 19 look sub-par?

Hmm... I didn't pay attention, or notice such a thing. But on the other hand, it didn't have that many really dynamic scenes, so it probably was also because of that a bit more low budget episode than most of the others.

I wonder if Yamato was trying to burn some bridges or prove something to himself in his last scene... Either way, it had to be a tactical move, though I can't see his plan (if there is one).

[Augury]

**ep 19 content**




I think you're giving him too much credit. The way I saw it, he probably thought (foolishly) that Suzuka would react badly to him and Honoka breaking up on okay terms so he tried to make it sound like a clean cut.

I like how they've changed the voice subtleties for Suzuka in the past two eps. The VA took out the harshness in her voice during her "concerned" lines.

[Kraco]

Originally posted by: Augury
I think you're giving him too much credit. The way I saw it, he probably thought (foolishly) that Suzuka would react badly to him and Honoka breaking up on okay terms so he tried to make it sound like a clean cut.

I did consider that, but I came to the conclusion nobody can be that baka... Thus I view it as some sort of plan, but I just don't see what he tries to immediately achieve with it. But no doubt the next episode will explain it.

[kenren]

i bet yamato was saying those bullshit at the last scene for some reasons...he knows he cant be a good boyfriend anymore and it was honoka kissing him...not suzuka [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]

[Ryllharu]

He was trying to save face in front of Suzuka. To him, it would seem unmanly to be the one dumped. He is also stupid, and doesn't realize that is not the wisest path to take. People seem to be forgetting that Yamato is a complete and total dumbass when it comes to the fairer sex. (With the exception of the whole flower confession idea, that's unstoppable.)

Simple as that.

[kenren]

But...he looked like he knows that it will end up suzuka hating him...well...we will know next episode.

[Kraco]

Originally posted by: kenren
But...he looked like he knows that it will end up suzuka hating him...well...we will know next episode.

Yes. This is still what I believe. I don't think anybody could possibly be as stupid as unwittingly saying something like that (or be written that stupid in the script). He has some plan, I'm sure of it. Perhaps the plan was just to push Suzuka away so that he can feel miserable alone, but it's a plan nonetheless.

[Ryllharu]

After all his actions so far, you really think there's a plan?

I think he is really THAT stupid. He's accused her of being obesessed with a dead guy (maybe true, but not the thing to say to someone), he's stalked her to the point of joining her club, then backing out, then deciding that he really does like her and needs to stay with the team to be near her. Later he would accept the confession of another girl because he was starting to get fed up with Suzuka and from shock of that confession. After that, while still going out with Honoka, be coerced into showing off his suprisingly effective and kickass confession skills with Suzuka.

Then due to Honoka's insecurity and his stupidity of talking about other women while with her, end up breaking up with Honoka, who honestly did love him (and no crap about "She couldn't make him into the image she thought he was." She reunited with him, and pretty much found out he was exactly what she thought of him from before, because he's pretty static as a character).

Then to save face, as he's done before, insult Honoka and say she was cramping on his style, etc, to Suzuka, who he not only desires to still impress with his manliness, but assure her that he really didn't like Honoka that much. She gets pissed off (and rightly so) and he looks confused and a little sad.

That doesn't sound like all that great of a 'Grand Plan.' You are giving him way too much credit. He's stupid, he doesn't think things through before he does them, and doesn't weigh the consequences of any action he takes until after its too late. It sounds to me like he's fufilling those a lot more than any grand plan. If he had thought up some plan, he wouldn't have gone through all this mess.

[DDBen]

Actually it was a plan I'm sure many of you have or will take in the future. Its very Simple Yamota still likes Suzuka a lot and he had basically two choices when it came to the breakup. Choice number one would be to Tell Suzuka what actually happened in which case she blames herself and likely tries to get him and Honoka back together despite what she wants. Choice number two is to place as much blame as possible on himself, yes this makes Suzuka mad at HIM and she will be upset as we saw but in the end he protects her as much as possible.

I think the point of his actuions is mearly to show him make a action that isn't in his best interest to contradict everyone constantly telling him how selfish he was with Honoka.

[kooshi]

I dunno which to decide: if getting Suzuka angry is a plan or not. Either way, we'll find out in the next episode. I'll just leave it in the air.

[Fiss240]

Originally posted by: DDBen
Actually it was a plan I'm sure many of you have or will take in the future. Its very Simple Yamota still likes Suzuka a lot and he had basically two choices when it came to the breakup. Choice number one would be to Tell Suzuka what actually happened in which case she blames herself and likely tries to get him and Honoka back together despite what she wants. Choice number two is to place as much blame as possible on himself, yes this makes Suzuka mad at HIM and she will be upset as we saw but in the end he protects her as much as possible.

I think the point of his actuions is mearly to show him make a action that isn't in his best interest to contradict everyone constantly telling him how selfish he was with Honoka.

I was going to say the same thing. I dont think he had any sort of grand scheme, but he defiantly put some hard thought into it before he spoke. He didnt want suzuka to feel any responsibility (which can weigh on a person alot longer then anger at another). I really like where this is going, as nice a breakup as you can think of with Honoka, and reopening possibilities with suzuka.

[Lucifus]

Yamato.............is the greatest dumbass I've ever seen....

[aznroyale]

he dumped her...... sounds like the other way around

[Kraco]

Originally posted by: Fiss240
I really like where this is going, as nice a breakup as you can think of with Honoka, and reopening possibilities with suzuka.

Yeah, really nice prospects: "You are the worst person ever!" But as they say: Love and hate are just the flipsides of a coin. And as easy to flip, likewise.

Well, perhaps Suzuka will even learn how it really happened at school.

[Augury]

Other than thinking that Yamato simply isn't too smart, the key reason why I think he's not following some plan is the "huh?" reaction he had after Suzuka got mad (or at least, not some master *successful* plan, but rather some poorly thought out idea-plan). To me that says that he was expecting Suzuka to have an "oh okay, that's how it is" reaction instead of getting fed up at him.

Although since this anime goes on on for several (six?) more episodes (or more?..) I'm guessing that details of how things actually happened will eventually get around to Suzuka and she'll have some sort of change of heart.

[kenren]

Lucifus your signature is too big.

[Lucifus]

............................It is......=( Crap..... It doesn't change the template or anything... =S