Name the scenes. Really, I don't think there's any differences.Originally posted by: Lefty
Yes the last two director cut eps are diffrent form the originals, not like ten minutes longer but some stuff was added that didn't air in the original broadcast. It made more sense to me.
didnt they only add like extra flashback scenes
thats what i thought
i like the movie ending better though, also the 2 endings are totally different to eachother in what happens. i wont spoil here so ill keep this pretty vague, but in the tv ending he makes a choice and in the movie ending he takes the alternative to his choice. if i remember right, its been a while since i saw the tv ending
Evangelion is pretty much one of the weirdest shows I've ever seen. Nowadays I got the feeling, that they really didn't know what kind of show they wanted to make.
Back then, when I watched it ('bout 7 years ago, I guess) I used to like it. I loved the mysteries and religion related stuff combined with a mecha theme. But the whole show just got more and more depressing to watch. Instead of the characters slowly getting a hold of themselves they turned into some really frightening lunatics. The last two episodes than really screwed it up for me just because it seemed like the creators decided that they wanted to do a show about the psyche of insane people. And even if this counts as spoiling: This show does NOT answer one single question that came up before. NOT ONE!
It was only after the end of the TV series that I read about the movies and them offering a different ending. So my hopes went up again. Man, was I wrong...the movies turned out to be sicker than the show itself. Seriously, it was so depressing to me, that I got into a really bad mood...felt like I just wanted to kill myself. After seeing that I really started to think of the Tv ending as being somehwat lighthearted.
All I can say is, that this show might have been great if the ending had been a lot different...like giving a real ending. Finally concluding the Angel storyline, the whole stuff about "Seele" and whatnot.
Sorry for the rant...but it shows, how disappointed I still am with that series.
Hideaki Anno was either a weird guy or a genius i guess o_o
but he does have talent in animation, especially at that time
This is a quote that partly expresses why the ending is the way it is.
Evangelion offers a better insight into the creative mentality behind it then anything I've ever seen, probably because it intentionally wears the personality of its director and staff on its sleeve. The staff's mental breakdown during the show creates a much more interesting final project than if they had attempted to put up a happy facade.About the time that the production system was completely falling apart, there were some opinions to the effect that, "If we can't do satisfactory work, then what's the point of continuing?" However, I didn't feel that way. My opinion was, "Why don't we show them the entire process including our breakdown."
I've gotta go to a chemistry review so I can't say much. Will be back later because...
Evangelion is my favorite anime ever. Partially because It's the first one I ever watched. But other than that, everything that Y has said is true.
Back later to flaunt my Eva fanboy-ness...
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
On the note of the Director's Cut, ZX's release for it is episode 21-24 because 25 and 26 have no new material added. I am pretty sure nothing has ever been altered in the last two episodes.
New scenes added in the episodes before 25&26? You mean like more depressing stuff? As far as I recall it was already pretty bad...I have a vague memory of suicide and other very serious stuff going on in there. As for the last two episodes, I'm sure I wouldn't notice any extra scenes in there, because of all the crazyness already going on in there. With all those image flashes and alternate realities and such things. Although I really liked the alternate reality version, guess that's why I called the TV episodes "lighthearted" before...at least compared to the movies.
And again: If anyone here is already in a pretty bad mood, or even depressive...THEN STAY AWAY from those EVA movies! They're bad and do strange things to your mind.
And yep, I'm serious about that. If you're down, watch some Sailor Moon or whatever to cheer you up.^^
yeah, 25 and 26 have always been as they are.
It's the few eps before that that they added teh previously deleted scenes to and named it the "directors cut" - which are also on the platinum dvds XD.
Has anyone got a copy of the red book or whatever it's called that they can send me? Deathboo said he had it as a .doc file. I'd really like to read it.
in any case, the only point I can make right now is that for me: TV ending > movie ending
It seemed to sum up what the show was really about. Granted I was at first looking forward to seeing what would really happen in the story. But looking back now, I'm really glad they ended it as they did.
It really represented the end of the existentialist's struggle. ie. accepting fate, choosing to make your own reality (Congratulations!). And that's what all the characters (mainly shinji; little wimp) were doing...Struggling.
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
Yes, the movie ending and the TV ending are quite different. The movie ending was easier to understand because it actually uses images instead of flashing words.Originally posted by: basey44
thats what i thought
i like the movie ending better though, also the 2 endings are totally different to eachother in what happens. i wont spoil here so ill keep this pretty vague, but in the tv ending he makes a choice and in the movie ending he takes the alternative to his choice. if i remember right, its been a while since i saw the tv ending
It's a pretty popular view that the last two episodes take place during the part in the movie when Shinji's inside the giant Rei. The end of episode 26 is when he bursts out of the eye. At least, that's what I've heard. I'll buy it for now.
C'mon Y, let's have an episode 3 synopsis. Who doesn't love seeing someone beating the crap outta shinji?
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
the movie ending suits shinji better [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
I think Shinji choking Asuka at the final scene of My Purest Heart For You reverses all of his character development. The movie is terrible, and a slap in the face to anyone who actually paid attention.
spoiler warning already around somewhere? err well anyways.
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yea its reversed, but thats wat makes it so good,, why should eva of all animes have the usual happy ending,, shinji was suppose to change finally after all that crap that has happened to him, misato saving him was a big impact on him, and seeing asuka's eva all destroyed
but when shinji had the choice to pick watever reality he wanted,, he picked asuka, then started to choke her, regret? anger? when he stopped choking asuka, she said something that was great, bah i cant remember it right now, but felt very fitting
he's not the usual character, thats why a lot hate him, think he's whiny etc but to some very interesting to watch
Yeah. The important part of the TV ending is that he got over all that shit. He left behind his isolation, his anxiety, everything, to live a new life. I don't find the EoE ending to fit with that, and I think what it leaves us with is worse.Originally posted by: MrTicTac
spoiler warning already around somewhere? err well anyways.
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yea its reversed, but thats wat makes it so good,, why should eva of all animes have the usual happy ending,, shinji was suppose to change finally after all that crap that has happened to him, misato saving him was a big impact on him, and seeing asuka's eva all destroyed
but when shinji had the choice to pick watever reality he wanted,, he picked asuka, then started to choke her, regret? anger? when he stopped choking asuka, she said something that was great, bah i cant remember it right now, but felt very fitting
he's not the usual character, thats why a lot hate him, think he's whiny etc but to some very interesting to watch
Alright on the added material of ep's 25 26. Some of the animation has been fixed, a few peices here and there are better, but they're a few extra tidbits add in. Like I said befoire it wasn't a whole lot of new stuff. just few things that ever so slightly change the the feel, and you only pick up on it if you watch carfully.
On the subject of the movies, Shinji choking asuka was the final release of all the hatred and sorrow he had left about all the rejection and confusion he had about the realtionship between them. Auska says somthing along the lines of digusting, or useless I don't remeber quite well.
Easily the best series I have ever seen, and I dont think anything will ever top it
This along with Akira were some major influences on me back in the 90's and really got me into anime
I got this a few months, for only 15 dollars!
How much were the cats?
I also think the last scene was a little odd. I still don't even understand why he chose to bring back only asuka - just to choke her (actually saying that, I don't blame him). Then again I've never really watched the movie with full attention.
The last thing Asuka says is supposedly "disgusting" or "I feel sick" or something like that. They never got the translation 100% accurate.
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
he didnt bring her back, only those who could imagin themselves in their own hearts could return to the normal world, which apparently was only shinji and asuka. asuka chose to come back her self
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