i think athrun's gonna die by the end of destiny, lets hope i'm wrong
but seriously man..destiny needs more deaths of major characters, there's too many to begin wih anyway. athrun would be a good scapegoat..don't cha think?
i think athrun's gonna die by the end of destiny, lets hope i'm wrong
but seriously man..destiny needs more deaths of major characters, there's too many to begin wih anyway. athrun would be a good scapegoat..don't cha think?
I think it would make more sense if Kira or Shinn died.Originally posted by: john_doe_107
i think athrun's gonna die by the end of destiny, lets hope i'm wrong
but seriously man..destiny needs more deaths of major characters, there's too many to begin wih anyway. athrun would be a good scapegoat..don't cha think?
-Shinn could change his mind about Orb and end up defending AA while getting blown up like Mwu in GS,
or
-Kira can die valiantly while defending the damaged AA/Orb, causing Athrun to go SEED and pwn.
Considering who he was I'm pretty sure he knew who he was going out to rescue. With his connections to Calgari in the first place he was likely sent out to contact Athrun and when the order came to capture him he likely was able to assume who was piloting the gouf in such a manor.Originally posted by: ~strike-freedom~
i don't think he knew who he was about to rescue, seeing from the last couple eps... cagalli's body guard had no idea, that athrun was going to defect. he prolly rescued for useful information about the attack/ future plans of zaft. (sry if this becomes a spoiler)Originally posted by: DDBen
Finally note that the guy who went to get Athrun was Calgari's bodyguard in seed and was likely well aware of the situation and who he was going to retrieve.
I don't know if this discussion is over yet, but anyhow my 2 cents on Shinn's intentions:
I am 110% sure he meant to kill both Kira & Athrun. While there might have been hesitation inside him, I am quite sure he is not the kind of guy who does something in a half-assed way. Once he sets his mind on something, he does it. That's just the way he is. I mean if he had any suspicions that Athrun/Meyrin were still alive, why would he break down like he did with Luna?
It will be funny once he notices that both of his kills were void though. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
Heh. I agree. I can't wait to see the expression on his face when he realises that both Asuran and Kira are alive! Which ever ep it's in is sure to be brilliant just because of that. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]Originally posted by: Terracosmo
It will be funny once he notices that both of his kills were void though. [img][/img]
Terra Hell must have frozen over because we fully agree on this.Originally posted by: Terracosmo
I don't know if this discussion is over yet, but anyhow my 2 cents on Shinn's intentions:
I am 110% sure he meant to kill both Kira & Athrun. While there might have been hesitation inside him, I am quite sure he is not the kind of guy who does something in a half-assed way. Once he sets his mind on something, he does it. That's just the way he is. I mean if he had any suspicions that Athrun/Meyrin were still alive, why would he break down like he did with Luna?
It will be funny once he notices that both of his kills were void though. [img][/img]
I think it may be what takes him down a peg.Originally posted by: Terracosmo
It will be funny once he notices that both of his kills were void though. [img][/img]
"What do you MEAN I didn't actually get either of them!?" and then everyone will be like, "God Shinn, you suck!".
Well, maybe not the second one. But I'm sure it will shake Shinn to the core, and hopefully he'll learn just how good a pilot Athrun is capable of being, on the recieving end of a beamsabered roundhouse to the face.
this is a little late but after thinking about ep 37 nonstop i began to wonder, Hey asuran went out the same way mace did in star wars when anakin killed him. anakin i mean shinn is wondering should he do it than palpatine is like do it or wait i mean rey is like they betrayed Zaft!! He finally does and was like damn it and feels sorry about it but in the end comes to think he was right for doing it. duillandal knows the force is strong within shinn so he cant afford to lose him maybe rey or duillandal will start calling shinn apprentince
Interesting comparison. I too believe Shinn was trying to kill Kira and Athuran. The only reason those 2 are alive is because of their excellent piloting skills. Kira and Athuran both perhaps at the time before the impact, slightly adjusted the MS so the strike missed the cockpit.
@DDBen: Interestingly, I was thinking the same thing. I wonder if has a deeper meaning, for hell to suddenly freeze over [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
@Dannynonsense: Nice comparison indeed! I didn't think of that.
@Sano: While that might be true, my theory is that Fukada (director) just doesn't have the balls to kill the leads off, and thus only tosses in the explosion to add cliffhanger value for the watchers (though in my opinion it cheapens the aspect of death in Seed). I also assume that things like these are needed for Shinn to grow.
Its not so much a cliffhanger whenOriginally posted by: Terracosmo
@Sano: While that might be true, my theory is that Fukada (director) just doesn't have the balls to kill the leads off, and thus only tosses in the explosion to add cliffhanger value for the watchers (though in my opinion it cheapens the aspect of death in Seed). I also assume that things like these are needed for Shinn to grow.
A: Its predictable, and
B: He shows us they are still alive in the same episode.
Personally, I think that scene was just to show off Destiny. Storyline wise, the only thing that whole deal accomplished is the fact that Dulindal thinks Athrun is dead. Unless thats more important than that sort of stuff normally is, nothing much was gained from that entire fight.
Oh well, I dont like losing the characters I like. I'm hoping one of the new mains dies (SHINN!) instead of the old guys. I feel like they survived the first season, and therefore deserve a happy retirement.
I was mostly referring to the Kira defeat though, but in the case of Athrun's defeat it can still be a cliffhanger even though it's resolved in the same episode.
In any case, it's there for a dramatic effect. And in that respect it works very well.
i think he intended to take down the gouf, but not kill athrun, sounds strange, but i think its sorta like the naruto sasuke thing, that he would break his arms and legs to bring him back, but after he succesfully attacked he realised he "killed" athrun, the scene at the stabbing was meant to portray the death of athrun, notice how the lightning lights up the sky, and makes silhouettes out of the 2 ms, drama stuff........
this may sound crazy but i think the seed mode shinn wanted to kill athrun but the normal shinn didn't, because remember he can't control his seed mode =P
Ovan, The Rebirth
yea...in every episode if shinn gets on seed mode,he goes berserk, he's a killer, intentions of killing, i think that is the only way for him to get on seed mode is getting really angry.
well basically, wasn't that how Kira went SEED in Seed untill he could trigger it at will?Originally posted by: naruto-kira
yea...in every episode if shinn gets on seed mode,he goes berserk, he's a killer, intentions of killing, i think that is the only way for him to get on seed mode is getting really angry.
something tells me that Shinn will soon be able to aswell and still remain clearheaded while he's in SEED mode
although i don't really hope he will, cause berserk Shinn is just way too much fun to watch in action
Love is fiction, misery is my only friend
I don't think he gets into SEED only thru anger. There was 1 episode where his sense of self-preservation took over and caused him to go SEED. Of course, ever since that episode his SEED mode has came mainly thru anger. The result is the same as Kira in GS, in the 1st half. A lot of killing...
Amaya, the Tauren Warrior
Gh! "Clearheaded Shinn" sounds like nonsense [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
shinn practically gets pissed at every battle so thus going SEED mode most of the time,, so does that count as controlling it ? o_o
he was clearheaded, in the ep kira shredded athrun, and he killed auel
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