But could his mom still love him if she knew how many women and children he killed on that shuttle?
But hey, I doubt anyones told her that...
But could his mom still love him if she knew how many women and children he killed on that shuttle?
But hey, I doubt anyones told her that...
Of course she would.
If she heard of that, though, it would prolly be as "Yzak shot down a shuttle of escaping soldiers".
Which was the reason Yzak shot it down, he didn't know there were civilians there.
(I wish he did though, I'd love Yzak even more if he killed off annoying children because he felt like it)
Hmm... if you are right, and he didn't realise it was full of civilians... well, that makes me feel better about Yzak. I always liked Duel, and Yzak was a much better "angry" character than Shinn. I just couldn't make myself like a murderer of children.Originally posted by: Terracosmo
Of course she would.
If she heard of that, though, it would prolly be as "Yzak shot down a shuttle of escaping soldiers".
Which was the reason Yzak shot it down, he didn't know there were civilians there.
(I wish he did though, I'd love Yzak even more if he killed off annoying children because he felt like it)
Though his two kills at the end of SEED made him uber in my mind. Give him a good Gundam and see how far he goes... (they really took one of these away from him in the Special Edition? Jerks!!)
Yep, I'm right. He also said that "You call yourself soldiers you pathetic cowards?" before blasting the shuttle. He also had a flashback about it in Destiny when he talked about the reasons to why he should have been executed after the war. "Him (Dearka) and me should have died a long time ago". As angry as Yzak is, he isn't really a bad person. He just has a really pissy demeanor. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] Which I happen to love.
And yes, they took his excellent Clotho kill away and gave to Dearka. Probably because the authors wanted us to feel like they are equally powerful.
I always felt Dearka was a great Grunt killer, not a character killer (like Yzak). This is shown what with his proficiency at shooting down missles and taking out daggers and whatnot.Originally posted by: Terracosmo
Yep, I'm right. He also said that "You call yourself soldiers you pathetic cowards?" before blasting the shuttle. He also had a flashback about it in Destiny when he talked about the reasons to why he should have been executed after the war. "Him (Dearka) and me should have died a long time ago". As angry as Yzak is, he isn't really a bad person. He just has a really pissy demeanor. [img][/img] Which I happen to love.
And yes, they took his excellent Clotho kill away and gave to Dearka. Probably because the authors wanted us to feel like they are equally powerful.
So did they just DROP that entire bondingish seen with Yzak and Dearka then? That thing where Yzak kinda showed that his friends were more important to him than ZAFT?
I thought that seen was pretty important, I dont see how they can still have that much meaning without Yzak taking that shot.
The Shani kill, where he jumps in and saves Cagalli and then gets shot and gets out of his Assault Shroud etc is still left intact.
The kill that was removed was when he took Dearka's gun and killed Clotho off, which was also a pretty important scene in my opinion.
Then again, that might be what you are referring to. Hehe.
Well, the special edition cuts out a ruthless amount of things; especially stuff related to the side characters (most of the important Kira/Athrun/Lacus/Cagalli events were spared).
Yes, the one I was reffering to is the one with him and Dearka, not the one where kills Forbidden. Which is even MORE badass. It was great that he saved Kagali, it really was kinda symbolic of him being over his Kira hatred (even though he doesn't realise that is Kira's sister, I still think its symbolic).
Those last two episodes of SEED were just jam packed with goodies, weren't they? Freedom vs. Providence was prolly my favorite duel in Gundam so far. Maybe S-Freedom and Legend will be as good...
Note: Does anyone else think that a 'friendly' matchup between Kira and Yzak, in comparable suits, would be great? Just for kicks and all that.
Also, SEED 3 (if it exists) should be about Yzak's squad. Maybe just do a short series about them or something.
I agree with that, Yzak grew a lot during those last episodes. He is arguably the Seed character who has changed the most. From a controlled squad member, to a man with injured pride hellbent on taking Strike down, to a person who looks around him for the answers to what he is fighting for (disgusted by many of the things ZAFT does in the war), to a man who gets over his childish games and grows up; becoming a commander. I love that so much.
S-Freedom VS Legend eh? I wonder if that duel will take place, I'd love to see it. However I'm quite sure the fight with Rey will be Athrun's at this point (revenge!) or maybe even Shinn's; forced to fight his former comrade. That is, if Shinn defects at all...
A friendly matchup between Kira and Yzak? I'm all for it. It's just too bad that Kira will probably win (plot device baby!).
Seed 3 should definitely be about Yzak's squad. Actually, everything related to Seed should be about Yzak's squad. He could travel space in his Yzak Gundam and fuck people up in each episode, I'd love it. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] And everytime Yzak owns someone, Dearka would be like "Oh my" with his calm voice and Shiho would scream "OOoooh Yzak-sama!" and then Yzak'd pose and everybody would say "Damn, that guy is the greatest!".
One can always dream!
The image that popped into my head from reading this was Yzak flying around in a ZAFTish pirate ship, flying around space raising hell. What an image.Originally posted by: Terracosmo
He could travel space and fuck people up in each episode, I'd love it. [img][/img]
YARRRR!!!
God, awesome image. *dreams*
Although I gotta say that I am somewhat disturbed by saying that you would love Yzak all the more if he would shoot down a shuttle of children, terra, I think we should get back to topic...
G SEED:
I guess it was ep 40, where Uzumi died and everybody was going back to space again. The ending, when Ahtrun and Kira were trying to get a hold of each other, ORB going up in flames and "akatsuki no kuruma" playing in the background has me sitting here shivering and feeling a strange tingle on my skin by even just thinking of it...(gotta love that song)
The episode, where Mwu died...kinda struck me like a lightning. I always had a thing for heroic deeds and acts out of love...dammit, that was tough to watch.
Hm...the episode, where Kira supposedly kills Waldfeld...I was sad to see him die, but the more I rejoiced when I discovered he was still alive.
GSD:
The episode with Junius 7 falling and Lacus singing "Fields of Hope". Man, that was touching.
Freedom finally launching again, another favorite of mine. It was really good to see Kira back in the seat again.
And finally and definately an episode in the late twenties, the one with the carrier from ORB sinking. It only occured to me during the last moments of that episode, that Shinn actually, by killing Captain Todoka, had killed the man who saved him from a burning ORB. Can't say why, but that really left an impression.
Only got around to watching GSD until ep 31 by now, so I might edit this later to add more episodes.^^
Stick around, Kenzaburo, and you'll find that to be one of the smaller things about me that is disturbing. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]Originally posted by: Kenzaburo
Although I gotta say that I am somewhat disturbed by saying that you would love Yzak all the more if he would shoot down a shuttle of children, terra, I think we should get back to topic...
As for your scenes, well picked.
I didn't realise how much I liked Andy until he came back from the grave.
Add his reapearance to my list of favorite SEED moments.
Also, the fact that he came back as a good guy was even better. Also, I think his reapearance was probably great for Kira too.
EDIT: I certainly liked Andy's reapearance more than I liked Mwu's, and Mwu is one of my favorite characters. I wish they hadn't made it SOOOOO obvious.Originally posted by: MeroTZ
I didn't realise how much I liked Andy until he came back from the grave.
Add his reapearance to my list of favorite SEED moments.
Also, the fact that he came back as a good guy was even better. Also, I think his reapearance was probably great for Kira too.
Don't double-post.
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Yeah, I was quite surprised at that, but wasn't particularly moved. I do agree however that it was good for Kira and the plot itself to boot.
The fact that he survived was in itself lame (I have never bought the whole "you can survive explosions" gig) but the result was pleasant.
I still haven't fully grasped the concept of Mwu being back, no matter how much I try it's hard to imagine that it's Mwu. Not only because the fact that he survived was ULTRA LAME, but also because... well... he isn't Mwu anymore, except for the sarcastic remarks which seems to have been left intact after the brain washing for some reason.
the sarcasm is a personality thing i think so maybe that's why it's still intact?Originally posted by: Terracosmo
Yeah, I was quite surprised at that, but wasn't particularly moved. I do agree however that it was good for Kira and the plot itself to boot.
The fact that he survived was in itself lame (I have never bought the whole "you can survive explosions" gig) but the result was pleasant.
I still haven't fully grasped the concept of Mwu being back, no matter how much I try it's hard to imagine that it's Mwu. Not only because the fact that he survived was ULTRA LAME, but also because... well... he isn't Mwu anymore, except for the sarcastic remarks which seems to have been left intact after the brain washing for some reason.
and just to be a jackass, i won't believe Neo is Mwu untill either he admits it after a memory recovery or it is been revealed in some other way
as for eps: i really liked the episode where Andy warns the Minerva is GSD, his sarcasm hits the spot every time
,so i basically think episode with Andy is good since there isn't an episode where he isn't being sarcastic in some way
oh and Terra might not agree but i really liked it when Andy told Yzak his place (in his own specific way) back in Seed in the desert battle
another favorite scene of mine is the convo between Talia and Murrue in the Minerva/Impulse VS Archangel/Freedom fight
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Oops, didn't realise I double posted. You see, I obviously meant to edit the other post, as shown in the double, lol.Originally posted by: Terracosmo
Yeah, I was quite surprised at that, but wasn't particularly moved. I do agree however that it was good for Kira and the plot itself to boot.
The fact that he survived was in itself lame (I have never bought the whole "you can survive explosions" gig) but the result was pleasant.
I still haven't fully grasped the concept of Mwu being back, no matter how much I try it's hard to imagine that it's Mwu. Not only because the fact that he survived was ULTRA LAME, but also because... well... he isn't Mwu anymore, except for the sarcastic remarks which seems to have been left intact after the brain washing for some reason.
Anyway, I take the whole explosion thing in the following way: Since such explosions are patently impossible, I just pretend they dont actually happen. I mean really, are these mobile suits packed with high explosives JUST so that they can explode when they take a hit? Whats in them to explode? They aren't carrying around amunition for the most part, and their power is battery based. I know I cant make a battery explode, especialy not by hitting it.
Therefore, explosions cant kill people in SEED, because they are imaginary. Or something to that effect [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
Mwu died for a cause, and his survival cheapens that sacrifice. Then again, he's Mwu so his survival isn't all bad. Great scene where he dies (and I maintain he DID die, whatever his survival means) btw.
And I'm glad he doens't have his memories, I hope he doesn't regain them.
for me in SEED: when kira first came back in freedom, when archangel's bridge was about to be shot down,, and crews' all x___x "ooh crap" kira shoots at the djinn's rifle, and first shot of freedom looking badass with those wings it creates with its thrusters"
was great [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
hmm..... someone should make a thread of whether they like destiny's wing thrusters or freedom's wing thrusters betterOriginally posted by: MrTicTac
for me in SEED: when kira first came back in freedom, when archangel's bridge was about to be shot down,, and crews' all x___x "ooh crap" kira shoots at the djinn's rifle, and first shot of freedom looking badass with those wings it creates with its thrusters"
was great [img][/img]
Ovan, The Rebirth
well that wouldn't be fair, since Freedom's thrusters have been shown alot more then Destiny's so it would be logical that Freedom would be the favourite pickOriginally posted by: AtHRunOwNZaLL
hmm..... someone should make a thread of whether they like destiny's wing thrusters or freedom's wing thrusters better
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