except kakashi chidori [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]Originally posted by: Terracosmo
It was always Kagerou.
It's pretty funny by the way how Kagerou has performed not only one, but two, "instant kill" techniques on him/herself, yet lives long enough to tell our jolly band of heroes about why he/she was cosplaying Kabuto to begin with.
Naruto rule #1: Instant kill moves are never actually killing anything.
Didn't kill Naruto.Originally posted by: darkshadow
except kakashi chidori [img][/img]Originally posted by: Terracosmo
It was always Kagerou.
It's pretty funny by the way how Kagerou has performed not only one, but two, "instant kill" techniques on him/herself, yet lives long enough to tell our jolly band of heroes about why he/she was cosplaying Kabuto to begin with.
Naruto rule #1: Instant kill moves are never actually killing anything.
Horrible episode.
Anime needs to take a 3-6 month break, because fillers are horrible and need to die.
Please don't double post.
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Crap, crap and more crap!
I want to see ninjas fighting in ninja-style against eacht other.
I dont want to have 10000000 transforming monster-ninjas with 10000000 Super-Special-Effect-technics.
In conclusion:
I want fights like within the first arch, the Zabuza-arch.
Fighting with Kunais, Shurikens and feet and fists, clever combinated to a real ninja-strategy...like the first fight against Zabuza....you know, Kakashi being captured, Naruto attacking with several kagebunshins, then within the chaos self-transforming into a Shuriken, leaving one kagebunshin "alive", then letting Sasuke throw the Shuriken, Zabuza evading it, but then Naruto re-tranforming into himself and throwing a Kunai that cannot be doged by Zabuza, so that Kakashi could come free.
THATs ninja-style!
In fact, it was all good until the last arch with the 5 Sound-ninjas.
"She's the only non-loli girl in the show, your honor!" will be my defense in court
Obviously, this filler isn't top-notch stuff. But it's not bad enough to make me stop downloading it.
As for the fighting, clever tricks and improvisation are nice, but there is something to be said for fights that end in one episode rather than being drawn out over half a dozen.
Im quite tired of the stupid ass transforming. It was cool with the 5 sound-nin but every mother doesnt need a transformation. This show is looking like it should just start off at this arc for the US episodes cause this is some dumbass toonami shit for sure.
why dont you throw in that oro's not overweight and doesnt have big cheeks while you're at it [img]i/expressions/rolleye.gif[/img]Originally posted by: masamuneehs
I totally disagree with the Godfather comparison on Oro! The Godfather is the authority figure within an organization of closely- knit family and friends. The Godfather works to maintain and further his Family's standing and to protect each member as best he can. The Godfather grants favors when that person can come back and help him later, BUT the Godfather also gets involved in certain 'favors' solely for another's benefit, even if the request is hard or troublesome for him to fulfill.
Orochimaru, on the other hand, is all about himself. He gladly sacrifices anything and anyone in order to further his study of jutsu. He grants people favors (and this is just my opinion on him, not any cold hard fact) only when they don't cost him much time or trouble AND when he believes that person will help him out with an equally large favor. Oro doesn't care about the Sound at all, they're just another tool to be used and discarded when needed...
Did any of you guys ever see the Godfather (or even parts 2 or 3) ? Or where you stoned when you watched it or something...
ANY comparison can have details that don't match up when you only concentrate on that, the point is to find 2 things that are more similiar to each other than any other 2 things, fool
Lets see.....the godfather helps people who will benefit his family....gee....if we substitute "family" with oro's "ambition" then maybe you can be a little more flexible in understanding the correlations. The only time the godfather ever did favors solely for another's benefit was on his daughter's wedding...other than that, it was either to establish or keep ties with other people of power or to strengthen the power of his own "family," OR as reward to people who in some way have helped his "family"
Of course oro doesn't care about the sound at all.....just as the godfather doesnt care about "random business owner X" at all....until person in question proves to be someone worthy of his attention.
Do you even read the forums at all, or where (sic) you stoned when you read it or something...
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
The episode was crap (nothing new there, I guess, but said nonetheless), painful to watch. Only slightly less suck by it being a fake Kabuto, 'cause Naruto was doing way too well against him. The stupid Sasame trick saving the say, this whole scenario in general...
And why is so much trouble being wasted on this group? Why don't they just treat it like a regular, incompetent invasion and just kill them already? Gah.
HOLY CRAP THIS EPISODE SUCKED
WTF why doesnt sakura have bruises on her knees? I mean, she falls to them once every minutes. Also WTF this is so gay first kabuto fake, then oro fake? then the loser transforms into like 10 people in a big blob on his back! WTF NARUTO IS SUPPOSED TO BE NINJAS NOT DBZ!!!
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blob guy is gay
yeah, and this part is actually in the mangaOriginally posted by: Fudgeman
HOLY CRAP THIS EPISODE SUCKED
WTF why doesnt sakura have bruises on her knees? I mean, she falls to them once every minutes. Also WTF this is so gay first kabuto fake, then oro fake? then the loser transforms into like 10 people in a big blob on his back! WTF NARUTO IS SUPPOSED TO BE NINJAS NOT DBZ!!!
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blob guy is gay
Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
why dont you throw in that oro's not overweight and doesnt have big cheeks while you're at it [img][/img]Originally posted by: masamuneehs
I totally disagree with the Godfather comparison on Oro! The Godfather is the authority figure within an organization of closely- knit family and friends. The Godfather works to maintain and further his Family's standing and to protect each member as best he can. The Godfather grants favors when that person can come back and help him later, BUT the Godfather also gets involved in certain 'favors' solely for another's benefit, even if the request is hard or troublesome for him to fulfill.
Orochimaru, on the other hand, is all about himself. He gladly sacrifices anything and anyone in order to further his study of jutsu. He grants people favors (and this is just my opinion on him, not any cold hard fact) only when they don't cost him much time or trouble AND when he believes that person will help him out with an equally large favor. Oro doesn't care about the Sound at all, they're just another tool to be used and discarded when needed...
Did any of you guys ever see the Godfather (or even parts 2 or 3) ? Or where you stoned when you watched it or something...
ANY comparison can have details that don't match up when you only concentrate on that, the point is to find 2 things that are more similiar to each other than any other 2 things, fool
Lets see.....the godfather helps people who will benefit his family....gee....if we substitute "family" with oro's "ambition" then maybe you can be a little more flexible in understanding the correlations. The only time the godfather ever did favors solely for another's benefit was on his daughter's wedding...other than that, it was either to establish or keep ties with other people of power or to strengthen the power of his own "family," OR as reward to people who in some way have helped his "family"
Of course oro doesn't care about the sound at all.....just as the godfather doesnt care about "random business owner X" at all....until person in question proves to be someone worthy of his attention.
Do you even read the forums at all, or where (sic) you stoned when you read it or something...
Well I simply saw a comparison between two characters that I don't believe are similair at all. And physical characteristics aside and noting that you raise a good point about the Godfather giving out favors on his daughter's wedding day (as its supposedly a Sicilian tradition that he cannot refuse to give out such favors) I still don't think your argument works.
Oro has no family, no loved ones. The Godfather (Vito at least, Michael was far more ruthless...) is a family man at heart, always placing the family first. Not just "the family" but his true blood relatives. The Godfather also takes careful pains to maintain his "mob family" amidst the mafia warring.
Oro has no blood relatives, but I do believe he would use them as research material if he did! Comparing his ambition to the Godfather's family is a lengthy stretch to make. Oro would throw everything away to get what he wants, while the Godfather constantly puts himself on the line for his family and "the family" and tries to protect the people around him.
And perhaps I can make superior arguments even when I am stoned. Ever consider that?
Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".
to the person above...
maybe u should reread that sentence.if we substitute "family" with oro's "ambition" then maybe you can be a little more flexible in understanding the correlations.
I would hope you are indeed not stoned then, because your argument here sucks.Originally posted by: masamuneehs
And perhaps I can make superior arguments even when I am stoned. Ever consider that?
When you compare people like this you don't say well this person is EXACTLY like this other person, because that never happens. You compare parts of their personality to the other person, not the whole person. No matter your attachment to the godfather you need to calm down and think about things a little.
the point is that everyone has something they care about.....
for the godfather, its his family
for orochimaru, its his ambitions
If you consider that, then you can make the substitution that i suggested earlier
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Every person has an objective in life that they eventually choose for themselves and then spend their life in pursuit of that objective, unless that objective is challenged by others and proved to be a worthless/lame pbjective to pursue... I would belive that to be the most general way to encompass what is being said so far.
Thats what I belive anyway.
This is my final defense on the subject and then I'm shutting up
GRANTED No two people are exactly alike.
'Main desires' or 'things you care about the most' can & often do largely dictate what kind of person you are (as well as how you go about pursuing these things)
GRANTED The Godfather & Oro both grant people favors, in return for some other kind of favor/service.
BUT the most important thing to each of them are incredibly different!
One's personal ambition vs. one's family
I just see people pursuing each one of these things as vastly different, since one focuses entirely on the self, and the other on other people. One path tends more to personal sacrifice and the other to betrayal & taking advantage of everyone around you.
Their "way" being largely dictated by their goals puts each indivudal (in this case Oro and the Godfather, use either Vito or Michael) on far ends of a spectrum (and how I view this spectrum and how important I believe it to be are entirely my opinion) and any other similarities between the two pale in comparison (again, my choice to focus on certain aspects as more important)
When it comes down to it, some people judge others by their ends, and others judge them more bytheir means. Everyone also sees the situation differently and bases their judgment and belief on things closest to them. Nuff said, I've gone thrice talking on this subject and I'm quite spent -tho always interested to see a reply-
Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".
I rewatched the ending of this episode recently just to enjoy Arashi Birkin once again, and realized the following:
Naruto is not going to forgive Orochimaru!
Well guess what, NO SHIT! I'm so fucking sick of that stupid excuse for a main character yelling that he won't forgive people.
It's a bad line to begin with and the fact that he repeats it every second episode just makes me laugh rather than take it seriously.
It's even funnier when you take in consideration that he's said it at least once during every one of the latest episodes...
At least it's better than...........Originally posted by: Terracosmo
I rewatched the ending of this episode recently just to enjoy Arashi Birkin once again, and realized the following:
Naruto is not going to forgive Orochimaru!
Well guess what, NO SHIT! I'm so fucking sick of that stupid excuse for a main character yelling that he won't forgive people.
It's a bad line to begin with and the fact that he repeats it every second episode just makes me laugh rather than take it seriously.
It's even funnier when you take in consideration that he's said it at least once during every one of the latest episodes...
"Because that's my way of the ninja!"
"Our hearts are full of memories but not all of them reflect the truth. The heart isn't a recording device. Even important memories change with time. They warp or fade, leaving us with but a shadow of what we hoped to remember." 天の道を行き、全てを司る。これは僕の世界。
Well that's true. That line is the worst among the worst. I cringe when I hear that overused nonsense.
He could combine them too! Fear this ultimate Naruto catchline abuse:
"I am Uzumaki Naruto and I will become the next hokage! Therefore I will never forgive him... because that's my way of the ninja!
Tightly followed by a rasengan of course [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
which misses/doesn't beat the target, who uses some ultimate unbeatable new ninjitsu only to lose to a second rasengan, this time purple-kyuubi powered.
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