Just seems like this suit is weak to me when I look at the armaments it has compared to the monsters that are Strike Freedom, Legend and Destiny. So far I know it has: beam saber x 2, beam cannon x 2, beam boomerang x 2, CIWS x 2, beam rifle x 1. Nothing about thats seems very impressive or unique really. I guess I'll hold judgement until more information about the flight pack is know but right now it is not looking good. What do you guys think?
Well looking at the pictures I think that IJ might have beams in the wings like Gaia's transformed state (what she killed Heine with).
I think that it *Looks* weak but really its loaded.
the only problem with Ij is there really isnt any information out on it like sf but dont count it out it is an upgrade from the original justice and finally ij is close combat mobile suit so it doesnt need all that crap sf has
and where the hell does ij have two beam boomerangs
There are beam boomerangs on IJ...you can go to mahq.com to check it out
lol I nearly missed it...why? Cause the boomerang is actually in the damn shield [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img].
Amaya, the Tauren Warrior
Originally posted by: DragonBladeX
There are beam boomerangs on IJ...you can go to mahq.com to check it out
lol I nearly missed it...why? Cause the boomerang is actually in the damn shield [img][/img].
There is ONE beam boomarang on the shield not 2 as far as I know atleast. As for it being a close combat suit I don't see that anywhere nor do I see any point in a suit with such a bulky flightpack and no antiship sword to be close combat. Remember all the suits of a nuclear nature are ment to run the entire battlefield and as far as Athran is concerned I've never seen him or any of his suits as ment for close combat. Given Aegis did have its clamp on transformation.
As per MAHQ:
Unit type: prototype assault mobile suit
Armament: beam saber x 2, beam cannon x 2, beam boomerang x 2, CIWS x 2, beam rifle x 1
Pilot: Athrun Zala
Mechanical designer: Kunio Okawara
After looking at the specs further, I disagree with the assumption that this unit is a close-combat oriented suit. Just as with every unit used by Athrun Zala (Aegis, Justice and Saviour), this suit is well rounded and gives it's pilot multiple style and tactical options depending on a given situation. The large difference between this unit and it's designed counterpart, Strike Freedom, is mainly in purpose. Kira Yamato has personal experience in combatting the DRAGOON system, and as such can estimate a proper use. Infinite Justice seems prioritized over short, mid and to an extent long, but not at the extreme ranges intended for Strike Freedom.
i think the reason it seems like a close combat ms is because of the way athrun used it back in GS. although it does have its other weapons, he mostly used the beam saber and boomerang.
one that hasn't been anouced yet but it's there
the shield for ij has a think beam sword attached to it
its a beam boomerang...Originally posted by: solid01
one that hasn't been anouced yet but it's there
the shield for ij has a think beam sword attached to it
wondering why IJ does not have a light beam shield generator like destiny and freedom have...
even ZGMF-X666S Legend Gundam have
time to address this issue head on ij shield is what i call 3 things in one ( you probally heard that on some electronic but i came up with the idea) its a shield that can extend its defensive range because of the hub in the center wich creates a beam shield ( you'll notice the hub or whatever looks like the beam shield on the arms of ms in V Gundam) also it stores a beam boomerang when stored on the shield it turns the shield into a beam saber shield like providence gundam. so that wraps up the issue of the shield just spreading my knowlege to help my fellow posters (more or less)
edit: in light of new information the hub on the shield maybe a rocket anchor (like sword strike)
Justice Gundam
Head machine gun: MMI-M19L 14mm dual machine guns x 2
Chest machine gun: MMI-GAU26 17.5mm CIWS x 2
Leg/shin beam cutter: MR-Q15A Griffon beam blade
Hip beam saber: MA-M02G Super Lacerta (Speel Lacerta?) x 2
Lifter beam cannon: MA-6J Hyper Fortis beam cannon
Lifter retracted beam cannon's short beam saber: MA-M02S Prefis (?) Lacerta x 2
Lifter wing beam cutter: MR-Q17X Griffon 2 beam blade x 2
Lifter edge beam saber: MA-M02G Super Lacerta (Speel Lacerta?)
Beam rifle: MA-M1911 High energy beam rifle
Beam boomerang: RQM55 Shining Edge beam boomerang
Beam shield: MX2002 beam carry shield x 1
Shield anchor: EEQ8 Grapple Stinger
It isn't dissapointing dudes it's a fuckin melee gundam [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
i've always said that IF would be more melee orientated, since that is the way athrun fights his bestOriginally posted by: Madell
Justice Gundam
Head machine gun: MMI-M19L 14mm dual machine guns x 2
Chest machine gun: MMI-GAU26 17.5mm CIWS x 2
Leg/shin beam cutter: MR-Q15A Griffon beam blade
Hip beam saber: MA-M02G Super Lacerta (Speel Lacerta?) x 2
Lifter beam cannon: MA-6J Hyper Fortis beam cannon
Lifter retracted beam cannon's short beam saber: MA-M02S Prefis (?) Lacerta x 2
Lifter wing beam cutter: MR-Q17X Griffon 2 beam blade x 2
Lifter edge beam saber: MA-M02G Super Lacerta (Speel Lacerta?)
Beam rifle: MA-M1911 High energy beam rifle
Beam boomerang: RQM55 Shining Edge beam boomerang
Beam shield: MX2002 beam carry shield x 1
Shield anchor: EEQ8 Grapple Stinger
It isn't dissapointing dudes it's a fuckin melee gundam [img][/img]
atleast so it seems to me
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Madell was quicker then I am, but everyone was duped to believe that IJ was "under powered" compared to the other new suits. IJ is jam packed with weapons, especially melee ones. I can't wait to see it in action. Here's the source. It also shows S Freedom's Dragoons.
http://img78.echo.cx/img78/5276/11195141023024uw.jpg
So we should be expecting IJ to be belting out kungfu moves on us, since its mostly made of melee weapons? It might interesting to see IJ utilise most, if not all of its melee weapons in a single battle.
Amaya, the Tauren Warrior
It's too bad that Lowe Gear won't show up to work with the OS. For those of you that don't know, when he was working on the OS for the Astray Red Frame so he could use the Gabrera Straight Katana properly he somehow caused a side effect that allows it to "use" martial arts.Originally posted by: DragonBladeX
So we should be expecting IJ to be belting out kungfu moves on us, since its mostly made of melee weapons? It might interesting to see IJ utilise most, if not all of its melee weapons in a single battle.
I watched the short but interesting Astray Redframe clip about Lowe. Loved the way he uses his katana to bring the enemy down. The way Redframe sheathes its sword back, wow. Was a programming glitch that causes the Redframe to use martial arts or was it intentional since Lowe is such a whiz with mecha?
Amaya, the Tauren Warrior
I can't guarantee it, but from what I've heard and seen it was a side effect. Totally unintended. Of course so was the invention of plastic (or it may have been rubber, can't remember for sure).
Also, it is a little off topic, but another accident gave him an energy ball attack. Some of you may already know this, but the beam weapons in SEED etc. don't house their own primary power, they recieve it through plugs in the MS hand. At one point someone stole the Red Frame, and Lowe got in there and shared the cockpit with her when they were attacked as he was about to retrieve it. Because of the beam weapons needing energy from Red Frame itself he avoids using them too much so he pulled out the Gabrera Straight. The woman that stole it then got over excited and tried to feed energy into like a beam saber. To save the arm Lowe had to vent the energy and he used it as an attack. (For those that care, all 1 of you, the pilot that stole the Red Frame was the M1 pilot with glasses that was killed at the end of SEED).
IJ is fucking nice. I would pilot that suit any day. It got more beam sabre shit than an entire army does. It will be cool to see IJ and SF to fight side by side.
Wow this info is really making the rounds. Its in like 3 threads now. IJ not IF right ^^ I can't wait to pilot SF and IJ in GU if it sees R2.
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