Yep I am 100% saying that Shinn would be a more tollerable female character.Originally posted by: Jurojin
Wait, so are you saying people would tolerate Shinn more if he had boobs? O.o
Yep I am 100% saying that Shinn would be a more tollerable female character.Originally posted by: Jurojin
Wait, so are you saying people would tolerate Shinn more if he had boobs? O.o
So, being evil, bitchy, obsessive, and coniving is more accepted coming from a girl than a guy..... Interesting...
let's all collect money for Shinn's big operation then
Love is fiction, misery is my only friend
You are slightly off here. It is more acceptible from a GOOD LOOKING girl then a guy.Originally posted by: Jurojin
So, being evil, bitchy, obsessive, and coniving is more accepted coming from a girl than a guy..... Interesting...
No he wouldn't. I don't care if he turned into the hottest girl in Seed. I still would hate his personality. Why the hell are we talking about giving Shinn breasts and castrating him anyways. If I wanted to see a boy magically get breasts and look like a girl I'd watch Mahoromatic.Originally posted by: DDBen
Yep I am 100% saying that Shinn would be a more tollerable female character.Originally posted by: Jurojin
Wait, so are you saying people would tolerate Shinn more if he had boobs? O.o
There is a perfect example for this.... It's called Frey Alster [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] She must be the most hated person in SEED
i beg to differOriginally posted by: Shinji Ikari
There is a perfect example for this.... It's called Frey Alster [img][/img] She must be the most hated person in SEED
to me at least she somewhat redeemed herself in the last couple of eps
well her "transformation" started after Kira went MIA
but the last few eps were most significant, atleast that's my opinion
Love is fiction, misery is my only friend
I agree Motteh, but I can't think of anyone who would me more hated than Flay lol.
I'm 100% sure that what you are saying is bullshit. Shinn wouldn't be more tolerable as a female. Just because you get turned on by animated characters doesn't mean the rest of us do.Originally posted by: DDBen
Yep I am 100% saying that Shinn would be a more tollerable female character.Originally posted by: Jurojin
Wait, so are you saying people would tolerate Shinn more if he had boobs? O.o
A great example is Frey who was one of if not the most hated character in SEED. I disagree that she reedemed herself in the end of SEED, in my opinion she got what she deserved. She was a fucking whore.
Originally posted by: PSJ
I'm 100% sure that what you are saying is bullshit. Shinn wouldn't be more tolerable as a female. Just because you get turned on by animated characters doesn't mean the rest of us do.Originally posted by: DDBen
Yep I am 100% saying that Shinn would be a more tollerable female character.Originally posted by: Jurojin
Wait, so are you saying people would tolerate Shinn more if he had boobs? O.o
A great example is Frey who was one of if not the most hated character in SEED. I disagree that she reedemed herself in the end of SEED, in my opinion she got what she deserved. She was a fucking whore.
She slept with Kira aside from that it was only fan speculation as to her being a whore. Although I don't actually disagree with this point but still its best to give her the benifit of the doubt. I think Fllay was FAR more tollerable then Shinn will ever be. The fact is even though she controlled and manipulated others in Seed mainly Kira. She still didn't go around killing people after they surrendered or blindly follow anyone. Atleast Fllay was her own person and was largely the one in control but she was still a victum and having your father blow up in front of you is a tramatic experience. Please note a large differnce is you were also watching Fllay as it happened not 3 years later. Considering it happened and she was still alive at this point as she was at the END of seed chances are you would feel completely differn't about her.
I tend to think in the end Fllay playing the manipulative but fragile female made her far more tollerable then Shinn has any chance of becomming as the vengeful psycopath.
Also do note Shinn with boobs = Lunimaria not Fllay and I believe its universally accepted that she's a much more popular character on the personal level of likeability even if it can be argued she isn't as well written.
First off saying that Frey's behaviour was acceptable because she saw her father die and Shinn's behaviour is not accepted is hypocritical. Shinn saw his family die right in front of his eyes so if you accept Frey's behaviour you will accept Shinn's. I do not accept either persons behaviour, both let their anger and sadness out on other people but in this case Shinn is far better than Frey. Frey completly used Kira, Shinn doesn't use anyone.
Shinn with boobs is not Lunamaria as their personalities are totally diffrent. That comment was just stupid on your part, did you think it through at all before you posted it?
As for my comment about Frey being a whore, that was not entirely serious. I thought that was rather clear.
Originally posted by: PSJ
First off saying that Frey's behaviour was acceptable because she saw her father die and Shinn's behaviour is not accepted is hypocritical. Shinn saw his family die right in front of his eyes so if you accept Frey's behaviour you will accept Shinn's. I do not accept either persons behaviour, both let their anger and sadness out on other people but in this case Shinn is far better than Frey. Frey completly used Kira, Shinn doesn't use anyone.
Shinn with boobs is not Lunamaria as their personalities are totally diffrent. That comment was just stupid on your part, did you think it through at all before you posted it?
As for my comment about Frey being a whore, that was not entirely serious. I thought that was rather clear.
No Shinn and Fllay's situations with the death of there family are completely differen't and you obviously did not read my above post. Case 1 we have Fllay who Kira promised to protect her father and he failed in doing so this lead to direct hatred towards Kira at the time and was something we saw dealt with real time.
Shinn on the other hand had this happen 3 years before hand it is not a current event and it is part of his past. He's chosen to feel sorry about himself rather then deal with it and move on. Please note that by the end of GS Fllay has dealt with her issue and moved on unlike Shinn at this point.
As for the Lunimaria/Shinn comment looking at the 2 side by side they are the same character one male and one female. I am not directly relating this to there personalities at this point in the series as we honestly don't know anything about Lunimaria aside from she has a sister. Her parents could have also died in the war there is absolutely no reference to anything about her past in all of GSD to this point. So in is essentially impossible to really relate a one dimensional side character to a main character whom we have a lot of insight into there past.
Frey's behavior is a far cry from the obnoxious, irrational, and uncalled for behavior from Shinn. Sure they saw their parents die right infront of them. But Shinn is taking his hate and anger to a level that Frey never did or could. Female characters are usually meant to be innocent and forgiven for things they have done. Also Frey actually was trying to change as she stated things were changing between her and Kira later in the series. Originally she just wanted to get back at Kira but she grew to actually care about him somewhere in the mix of all things. Shinn is also in a bunch of crazy crap. He is getting smacked around by life left and right. However instead of making his character grow out of the hate and revenge. He's getting worse. He's become more arrogant. Consumed with hate and rage. What little shot at peace with Stellar failed and hes drowning in his own life. Grasping at whatever he can to stay afloat. Hes a really interesting character since he's so out of place for what the norm is. I don't like him. But thats the point. He isn't meant to be a character that you like or get along with. Hes supposed to be hated and despised.
I don't like Shinn at all. As a person hes just an ass and deserves whats coming to him. But as a character hes really interesting right up there with Kira. Its a good choice as one of the main characters. Although its looking more like hes drifting off to the sidelines now that Kira is in. I mean hes barely in the intro anymroe. Hopefully the fourth shows him alot more.
I can't believe that noone has photoshopped Shinn's head on Lunamaria's body just for the sake of laughter yet- I'd do it, but I don't have the mad skillz for it ;_;
Originally posted by: Jurojin
I can't believe that noone has photoshopped Shinn's head on Lunamaria's body just for the sake of laughter yet- I'd do it, but I don't have the mad skillz for it ;_;
someone did a picture of Lunamaria with Shinn's hair and eye color somewhere in the forum and its about the same result cut and pasting Shinns head would be.
Originally posted by: DDBen
Originally posted by: PSJ
First off saying that Frey's behaviour was acceptable because she saw her father die and Shinn's behaviour is not accepted is hypocritical. Shinn saw his family die right in front of his eyes so if you accept Frey's behaviour you will accept Shinn's. I do not accept either persons behaviour, both let their anger and sadness out on other people but in this case Shinn is far better than Frey. Frey completly used Kira, Shinn doesn't use anyone.
Shinn with boobs is not Lunamaria as their personalities are totally diffrent. That comment was just stupid on your part, did you think it through at all before you posted it?
As for my comment about Frey being a whore, that was not entirely serious. I thought that was rather clear.
No Shinn and Fllay's situations with the death of there family are completely differen't and you obviously did not read my above post. Case 1 we have Fllay who Kira promised to protect her father and he failed in doing so this lead to direct hatred towards Kira at the time and was something we saw dealt with real time.
Shinn on the other hand had this happen 3 years before hand it is not a current event and it is part of his past. He's chosen to feel sorry about himself rather then deal with it and move on. Please note that by the end of GS Fllay has dealt with her issue and moved on unlike Shinn at this point.
As for the Lunimaria/Shinn comment looking at the 2 side by side they are the same character one male and one female. I am not directly relating this to there personalities at this point in the series as we honestly don't know anything about Lunimaria aside from she has a sister. Her parents could have also died in the war there is absolutely no reference to anything about her past in all of GSD to this point. So in is essentially impossible to really relate a one dimensional side character to a main character whom we have a lot of insight into there past.
So, what your saying is, DDBen that if someone close to you was killed infront of your eyes, the weight of such an event would lessen as time goes by? It doesn't. People find ways to deal with they're sadness, Shinn's was his connection with Stellar...Flay's was fucking Kira and overall trying to manipulate every male in her general facinity. Shinn did find a way to deal with his sadness and anger: Revenge. That is the basis of thousands of stories and a very real emotion that takes a true adult to deal with. I'm not even going to touch on the Shinn(Female) comment, because it's such severe stupidity (albeit mildly amusing) in it's seriousness that the validity of those who agree with such a statement have lost entirely too many brain cells.
I was making the comment in jest ^^; apologies.
I wasn't found the random pic.Originally posted by: Jurojin
I was making the comment in jest ^^; apologies.
Originally posted by: Kovash
I noticed something strange about that picture of Luna-Maria; so I made her hair dark and her eyes red and... MY GOD! I CREATED A MONSTER!
Luna-Auska
Shinn and Lunamaria doesn't have similar personalities. They are entirely diffrent which is why they are diffrent in popularity. It is not because Shinn is a male Lunamaria that he isn't as popular, it's because he is a jackass. Even if Lunamaria's parents died during the previous war Shinn and her still isn't the same since the have diffrent fucking personalities. What is so hard to get about this?Originally posted by: DDBen
Originally posted by: PSJ
First off saying that Frey's behaviour was acceptable because she saw her father die and Shinn's behaviour is not accepted is hypocritical. Shinn saw his family die right in front of his eyes so if you accept Frey's behaviour you will accept Shinn's. I do not accept either persons behaviour, both let their anger and sadness out on other people but in this case Shinn is far better than Frey. Frey completly used Kira, Shinn doesn't use anyone.
Shinn with boobs is not Lunamaria as their personalities are totally diffrent. That comment was just stupid on your part, did you think it through at all before you posted it?
As for my comment about Frey being a whore, that was not entirely serious. I thought that was rather clear.
No Shinn and Fllay's situations with the death of there family are completely differen't and you obviously did not read my above post. Case 1 we have Fllay who Kira promised to protect her father and he failed in doing so this lead to direct hatred towards Kira at the time and was something we saw dealt with real time.
Shinn on the other hand had this happen 3 years before hand it is not a current event and it is part of his past. He's chosen to feel sorry about himself rather then deal with it and move on. Please note that by the end of GS Fllay has dealt with her issue and moved on unlike Shinn at this point.
As for the Lunimaria/Shinn comment looking at the 2 side by side they are the same character one male and one female. I am not directly relating this to there personalities at this point in the series as we honestly don't know anything about Lunimaria aside from she has a sister. Her parents could have also died in the war there is absolutely no reference to anything about her past in all of GSD to this point. So in is essentially impossible to really relate a one dimensional side character to a main character whom we have a lot of insight into there past.
What is diffrent about seeing your father/family die? If you are going to take time in account then count with how they died. Shinn saw his sister's arm severed from her body and his father and mother lying in a pool of blood dead while Frey simply saw her father's ship explode. Shinn has moved on from feeling sorry for himself, he uses his anger and desire for revenge on the battlefield in the name of ZAFT. While Frey moved on i find it hard to believe that she became any better as she was a spoiled brat before her father died and after a lunatic psychopath.
Shinn didn't do anyhing directly towards people either exept being arrogant towards Asuran, Frey fucked Kira and told Sai without any guilt and made Kira and Sai fight who were good friends before the stupid whore manipulated and used Kira.
Yes, Shinn killed a couple of EA soldiers which i won't defend but in his eyes he was doing the right thing and saved the people who were oppressed by them. And he is a soldier just like they were, death is not unusual in situations like that and no one has talked shit about Neo for manipulating Stellar into destroying a bunch of cities which is much worse than anything Shinn has done. Neo just gets away with it because people think he is Mwu.
Since Kira promised to protect Frey's father it makes it okey for her to make Sai feel like shit and Manipulate Kira? Imagine how Sai felt when she dropped the bomb on him "I slept with Kira". I mean that guy didn't deserve any of that.
I think your hatred for Shinn is a bit to much in your posts. I hate Frey more than i have hated anyone as she does it towards the only people she have left close to her and hurts herself at that. Nothing Shinn does can be that hard unless he stabs Lunamaria out of spite or something.
PSJ - DDBen : 1 - 0
Partly because of the fact that I agree with PSJ, but also because he actually uses facts stated in the show unlike DDBen with his funny ways of analyzing personalities.
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