Theory: Why people like/hate Kira/Shinn

[Digitalgirl]

Originally posted by: Shinji Ikari

Originally posted by: Aramis
Bah, Kira might look all that cool on the outside but he's just a power crazed little guy. His thought process during the latest battle could as well have been something like this:

Ok here we go again, some n00bs tryina take down me ship, hah not in a thousand years!
Aha there's their daggers coming in as obnoxiously as ever...better go mow them down effortlessly like always..
*zap-slice-boom-ka-zhonk*
Heh, easy as ever...Notice how i'm just impairing their suits instead of totally annihilating them...A really great pilot like me should have morals like that. Now where'd they all go? Huh? No more? Oh, they resorted to bombarding now. Damn what are they doing in the AA getting hit like that? Ah fuck there's missiles now. Shooting down missiles is so fucking stupid. Can't they get a turret or something to do this? Oh well *zzzapp* that takes care of it.
Alright now we're almost safe...wait what the hell? Minerva coming at us? Ungrateful fucking bastards. I even saved them like twice with my uber leet marksmanship. That Athrun whore is probably in there too. Whatever, you're with me or against me, bring it on...
Oh it's only that strike ripoff thing this time. I'm not supposed to kill and stuff but this guy is simply beyond redemption. Die! *slice* WTF? didn't work? aargh it split in pieces! Noo they're kamikzeing on me and shooting point blank with CIWS! Omg now they grew back! Oh fuck my suit is totally ruined! Damnit pull together now...someone as elite as I should not fear---OHGOD IT HAS HUGE ASS FRIGGIN' SWORDS NOW AND COMING RIGHT AT ME! NOOO *booooom*

yeah thats right. he wasn't worried about the archangel or anything, just trembling with fear of losing and dying!
ok, probably it wasn't intended like that, but i'm bored and don't like kira much.

I gotta hand it to you, with jokes like that, you could become one hell of a comedian someday...

Have you seen Gundam Seed, for if you have, then you know that Kira isn't the kind of person who thinks he is better than anyone else.

*coughitsasarcasticjoke[ihope]don'ttrytoanalyzeitcough*

[Vegita]

Originally posted by: Vegita

And let me say if you don't already know... Shinn is a flawed character... and he's meant to be like that. For example, his conviction against ORB to me is a lot more interesting than Kira's "Don't you see? Cagalli is crying! Time for me to go berzerk." That's just lame.

Wouldn't you want to protect your sister when she's in pain?[/quote]

His sister crying or not shouldn't change the actions of this ultra-rational and pragmatic character Kira is supposed to be.

If that was the case then Cagalli is the ultimate coordinator cause she can just cry and make Kira do anything she wants.

[Vegita]

Originally posted by: Digitalgirl
We don't need to watch cocky, "real-life" characters on anime shows. We have enough real-life people with the same annoying attitudes outside of t.v. [like PSJ said]

[Shinn Fan: wow, Shinn's annoying as hell, but he's so realistic!
Shinn type person: You F****** f*g, I'll kill you and get my revenge!
meh...I'm obviously a Kira lover, Shinn hater, but Aramis' post was hilarious]

Oh ok so everyone should be humble and modest in anime? What a joke.

[Deblas]

Originally posted by: Vegita

Originally posted by: Digitalgirl
We don't need to watch cocky, "real-life" characters on anime shows. We have enough real-life people with the same annoying attitudes outside of t.v. [like PSJ said]

[Shinn Fan: wow, Shinn's annoying as hell, but he's so realistic!
Shinn type person: You F****** f*g, I'll kill you and get my revenge!
meh...I'm obviously a Kira lover, Shinn hater, but Aramis' post was hilarious]

Oh ok so everyone should be humble and modest in anime? What a joke.

Nah, We need characters like Shinn so we can hate them.

[TeknoXI]

Originally posted by: Deblas

Originally posted by: Vegita

Originally posted by: Digitalgirl
We don't need to watch cocky, "real-life" characters on anime shows. We have enough real-life people with the same annoying attitudes outside of t.v. [like PSJ said]

[Shinn Fan: wow, Shinn's annoying as hell, but he's so realistic!
Shinn type person: You F****** f*g, I'll kill you and get my revenge!
meh...I'm obviously a Kira lover, Shinn hater, but Aramis' post was hilarious]

Oh ok so everyone should be humble and modest in anime? What a joke.

Nah, We need characters like Shinn so we can hate them.

I agree with you in that we need characters to hate. Shinn does a great job of making me hate the shit out of him. Frey was like that in a way, but I could stand her. Any character which triggers deep emotions, whether happy, sad, or mad are good. But good characters don't have to be liked.

[DDBen]

Originally posted by: TeknoXI
I agree with you in that we need characters to hate. Shinn does a great job of making me hate the shit out of him. Frey was like that in a way, but I could stand her. Any character which triggers deep emotions, whether happy, sad, or mad are good. But good characters don't have to be liked.

you could tollerate Fllay better then Shinn because she had boobs. That aside I completely agree wie need characters like Shinn to really hate without a character that is so dislikeably how can anyone like another character.

[ShinnIsGay]

Shinn sucks.. he should just kill himself.. i mean .. he hates kira just because kira killed stellar..
Shinn rather let stellar live and kill millions of other people.. to shinn all the millions of people killed by stellar is not important. Shinn is just gay.. he sucks.. big time.. i mean so what if Shinn likes stellar.. the fact that stellar killed so many people is just enough reason for her to die.

[MeroTZ]

Originally posted by: DDBen

Originally posted by: TeknoXI
I agree with you in that we need characters to hate. Shinn does a great job of making me hate the shit out of him. Frey was like that in a way, but I could stand her. Any character which triggers deep emotions, whether happy, sad, or mad are good. But good characters don't have to be liked.

you could tollerate Fllay better then Shinn because she had boobs. That aside I completely agree wie need characters like Shinn to really hate without a character that is so dislikeably how can anyone like another character.

Both posters are right! And brilliant deduction on why Fllay was tolerable DDBen!

Shinn is a guy you love to hate.

[Curium]

Originally posted by: ShinnIsGay
Shinn sucks.. he should just kill himself.. i mean .. he hates kira just because kira killed stellar..
Shinn rather let stellar live and kill millions of other people.. to shinn all the millions of people killed by stellar is not important. Shinn is just gay.. he sucks.. big time.. i mean so what if Shinn likes stellar.. the fact that stellar killed so many people is just enough reason for her to die.

It's people like you that give the rest of us Shinn-haters a bad name.

[DDBen]

Originally posted by: MeroTZ

Originally posted by: DDBen

Originally posted by: TeknoXI
I agree with you in that we need characters to hate. Shinn does a great job of making me hate the shit out of him. Frey was like that in a way, but I could stand her. Any character which triggers deep emotions, whether happy, sad, or mad are good. But good characters don't have to be liked.

you could tollerate Fllay better then Shinn because she had boobs. That aside I completely agree wie need characters like Shinn to really hate without a character that is so dislikeably how can anyone like another character.

Both posters are right! And brilliant deduction on why Fllay was tolerable DDBen!

Shinn is a guy you love to hate.

Hey lets not forget Lunimaria is essantially Shinn with boobs as well she is drawn virtually identical to him and as someone did earlier by changing her hair to black and eye's to red low and behold she looked exactly like Shinn. Then they added boobs and incase you haven't noticed I would say she has atleast 10X the popularity of Shinn.

[PSJ]

Lunamaria is more popular because A) She is female B) She got a diffrent personality. And for the record i dont agree with you on Frey being tolerable cause she had boobs, she was tolerable because she wasn't a main character and not featured in the show that much. I still hated her guts, i actually laughed when she died.

@Curium: I would say most of the Shinn-haters does that very well themselves.

[Ahirman]

It's Shinn's character that makes me dislike him. His attitude towards others and his logic drive me to the point where I can't stand him at times. And like others have said, the writers most likely made him like this on purpose for us to hate him. And as he has some of the qualities of a person I really dislike, they've done a good job when it comes to me. It'll be interesting to see where the writers take it from here.

[kinggalaxia]

Originally posted by: DDBen

you could tollerate Fllay better then Shinn because she had boobs.[/quote]

omg, that's hilarious, Ben. single most refreshing thing I've read from you


and ShinnIsGay? grow a brain, get a life, and get a fucking original, semi-cleaver forum name.

[Digitalgirl]

Originally posted by: ShinnIsGay
Shinn sucks.. he should just kill himself.. i mean .. he hates kira just because kira killed stellar..
Shinn rather let stellar live and kill millions of other people.. to shinn all the millions of people killed by stellar is not important. Shinn is just gay.. he sucks.. big time.. i mean so what if Shinn likes stellar.. the fact that stellar killed so many people is just enough reason for her to die.

Kira killed a couple of people in GS, and he still had about 2 ships and a couple of mobile suits willing to protect him. [if necessary]

[Curium]

Originally posted by: Digitalgirl

Originally posted by: ShinnIsGay
Shinn sucks.. he should just kill himself.. i mean .. he hates kira just because kira killed stellar..
Shinn rather let stellar live and kill millions of other people.. to shinn all the millions of people killed by stellar is not important. Shinn is just gay.. he sucks.. big time.. i mean so what if Shinn likes stellar.. the fact that stellar killed so many people is just enough reason for her to die.

Kira killed a couple of people in GS, and he still had about 2 ships and a couple of mobile suits willing to protect him. [if necessary]

The only differance was Kira didn't attempt Genocide.

@PSJ, I know but I still wanted to say it. You have to admit both of our statements are true. I like your new Sig. Banner BTW.

[PSJ]

Yea i agree with you that the guy is annoying as hell and drags down the intelligence level of us Shinn dislikers, as i would like to call it.

[Terracosmo]

Originally posted by: DDBen

Originally posted by: MeroTZ

Originally posted by: DDBen

Originally posted by: TeknoXI
I agree with you in that we need characters to hate. Shinn does a great job of making me hate the shit out of him. Frey was like that in a way, but I could stand her. Any character which triggers deep emotions, whether happy, sad, or mad are good. But good characters don't have to be liked.

you could tollerate Fllay better then Shinn because she had boobs. That aside I completely agree wie need characters like Shinn to really hate without a character that is so dislikeably how can anyone like another character.

Both posters are right! And brilliant deduction on why Fllay was tolerable DDBen!

Shinn is a guy you love to hate.

Hey lets not forget Lunimaria is essantially Shinn with boobs as well she is drawn virtually identical to him and as someone did earlier by changing her hair to black and eye's to red low and behold she looked exactly like Shinn. Then they added boobs and incase you haven't noticed I would say she has atleast 10X the popularity of Shinn.

And let's not forget, that popularity ALWAYS tells us how great a character is. (slight sarcasm)
Luna & Shinn has nothing in common. If you are talking about how she is drawn, all characters in this show are drawn almost identically. You can put any two characters to the comparison board like you've done with Luna & Shinn.

[DDBen]

Originally posted by: Terracosmo
And let's not forget, that popularity ALWAYS tells us how great a character is. (slight sarcasm)
Luna & Shinn has nothing in common. If you are talking about how she is drawn, all characters in this show are drawn almost identically. You can put any two characters to the comparison board like you've done with Luna & Shinn.

Sure I can as Lunimaria and Shinn also have almost identical hair. Most coordinators are drawn in a similar fashion but the hairstyle is usually a defining factor of the character. In the case of Lunimaria and Shinn take away the color and they look basically 100% identicle. On a side note go watch 35 your favorite character is in it [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

[DeluxSkillz]

only just started watching destiny so i'm only at ep 12 of destiny, but so far i don't like Shinn at all so i guess i'm a Kira>Shinn guy and i watched GS before GSD, back to watching some more Destiny

[Jurojin]

Originally posted by: DDBen

Originally posted by: TeknoXI
I agree with you in that we need characters to hate. Shinn does a great job of making me hate the shit out of him. Frey was like that in a way, but I could stand her. Any character which triggers deep emotions, whether happy, sad, or mad are good. But good characters don't have to be liked.

you could tollerate Fllay better then Shinn because she had boobs. That aside I completely agree wie need characters like Shinn to really hate without a character that is so dislikeably how can anyone like another character.

Wait, so are you saying people would tolerate Shinn more if he had boobs? O.o