Episode 34 (may contain SPOILERS)

[Nai]

I promise I'll be out after this one, I need sleep.

DDBen, well, Shinn slicing open the cockpick and then Kira shoving his saber into the charging cannon probably made her take some damage. Yes, I do indeed consider Shinn a direct contributor to her death. She was obviously dead before he threw her in the lake tho.

Now for Guardian_2000:

Kira directly contributed to the death of Heine, much like Shinn did to the death of Stellar. So no, obviously you have not comprehended anything at all.

Thank you.

[DDBen]

Originally posted by: Nai
I promise I'll be out after this one, I need sleep.

DDBen, well, Shinn slicing open the cockpick and then Kira shoving his saber into the charging cannon probably made her take some damage. Yes, I do indeed consider Shinn a direct contributor to her death. She was obviously dead before he threw her in the lake tho.

Now for Guardian_2000:

Kira directly contributed to the death of Heine, much like Shinn did to the death of Stellar. So no, obviously you have not comprehended anything at all.

Thank you.

The Shinn Drowned Stellar was NOT as serious comment in any way. I just hated the fact that they show Shinn with her out of the cockpit holding her at which point she goes "Shinn Like" then either dies or passes out its really unspecified and Shinn honestly doesn't bother to check much less give her CPR. After this Shinn wanders off tosses her in a lake not even pulling the shrapnel out of her suit. It just seemed rushed, random and uncalled for. I'm thinking more or less she suffocated from the fumes that shinn allowed in the cockpit with the hole he cut. Then he decided not to attempt to save her because she would have just ended up in the same place she was last time and thus making her suffer more was pointless.

My problem is in the end Shinn blames Kira for this when he is the one person who had absolutely nothing to do with Stellar. He disabled gaia once or twice and um yeah he stopped destroy from killing Shinn and who knows how many other people. That aside of all the possible people to blame he is the LEAST responsable for what happened.

[qilinkiddo]

Originally posted by: Nai
I promise I'll be out after this one, I need sleep.

DDBen, well, Shinn slicing open the cockpick and then Kira shoving his saber into the charging cannon probably made her take some damage. Yes, I do indeed consider Shinn a direct contributor to her death. She was obviously dead before he threw her in the lake tho.

Now for Guardian_2000:

Kira directly contributed to the death of Heine, much like Shinn did to the death of Stellar. So no, obviously you have not comprehended anything at all.

Thank you.

even if kira was contributing to heine death which was true but its indirectly...
if kira was the one who kill heine with his gun and stuff then that would be directly...

but after kira disable heine gundam...heine felt that he loses his face/pride
and feel that kira being too cocky who came to the battlefield out of sudden and disable every single gundam/mobile suit he seen...
his rage to get back to freedom that he did not notice gaia was coming from behind(correct it)
stellar using the beam sabre and killed heine from behind

its was stellar who directly kill heine...but kira who indirectly causes the death of heine

[Motteh]

Originally posted by: qilinkiddo
when he going to get his revenge on freedom

on what do you base that he was getting his revenge?
he was just floating there not moving an inch closer to Freedom

[MeroTZ]

Kira holds no blame at all for Heines death. Had Heine done the correct thing, he would have fallen back to Minerva for safety/repairs.

As for Stellar... without an autopsy (impossible due to Shinns actions) there is no way to know what killed her. Could be fumes, could be Shinns beam saber ignited the air in the cockpit and fried her lungs. Maybe it was the radiation released when Kira blew the positron cannonish things on hte chest.

One thing is for certain though. Had Shinn not exposed Stellar to the outside by cutting open Stellars cockpit, she probably would have been fine.

Kira isn't responsible for Stellars death any more than Shinn is. Just liek he's not responsible for Heines.

At least, unless we get more info on Stellars death. maybe kira did kill her, but right now, we dont know.

[Vegita]

Originally posted by: MeroTZ

One thing is for certain though. Had Shinn not exposed Stellar to the outside by cutting open Stellars cockpit, she probably would have been fine.

How's that? He would've stabbed right rhough that cockpit whether or not Shinn cut it open first.

[MeroTZ]

Originally posted by: Vegita

Originally posted by: MeroTZ

One thing is for certain though. Had Shinn not exposed Stellar to the outside by cutting open Stellars cockpit, she probably would have been fine.

How's that? He would've stabbed right rhough that cockpit whether or not Shinn cut it open first.

...Except that he never stabbed anywhere near the cockpit?

EDIT: Seriously, did you watch it? he destroyed Destroy's chest cannons, he never went near Stellar herself.

[Vegita]

Originally posted by: MeroTZ

Originally posted by: Vegita

Originally posted by: MeroTZ

One thing is for certain though. Had Shinn not exposed Stellar to the outside by cutting open Stellars cockpit, she probably would have been fine.

How's that? He would've stabbed right rhough that cockpit whether or not Shinn cut it open first.

...Except that he never stabbed anywhere near the cockpit?

EDIT: Seriously, did you watch it? he destroyed Destroy's chest cannons, he never went near Stellar herself.

Are you expecting the cockpit plating facing outside to protect her from an internal explosion?

EDIT: lol oops it turns out she was thrown from the cockpit. Oh well I guess she should've worn a seatbelt.