Episode 34 (may contain SPOILERS)

[Pwas]

WTF Kiras got no purpose in GSD, hes no longer the main character. A matter of fact i think Kira was only in GSD to be defeated by Shinn to show Shinns power. Hes got no purpose or else he would be the main character instead of Shinn. As for your comment on Shinn not being able to take out Kira, thats bs because he just did like in this episode proves. Kira doesnt have the faith of the world on his hands and protecting his love ones because hello this isnt GS this is GSD and hes no longer the main character. So go cry some more under your bedsheets that kira got his ass kicked !

[Jurojin]

disregard, was beaten to the punch on Kira being in Seed Mode.

[Motteh]

Originally posted by: Pwas
WTF Kiras got no purpose in GSD, hes no longer the main character. A matter of fact i think Kira was only in GSD to be defeated by Shinn to show Shinns power. Hes got no purpose or else he would be the main character instead of Shinn. As for your comment on Shinn not being able to take out Kira, thats bs because he just did like in this episode proves. Kira doesnt have the faith of the world on his hands and protecting his love ones because hello this isnt GS this is GSD and hes no longer the main character. So go cry some more under your bedsheets that kira got his ass kicked !

true, Kira is no longer THE main character but he is A main character
and according to your logic Athrun should take a dive too then, since he obviously has no purpose at all yet
except being yelled at by Shinn

edit: damn look at me, been defending Shinn since the beginning more or less and now i sound like a Kira fanboy
i'll just go "cry under my bedsheets" now [img]i/expressions/beer.gif[/img] cheers!

[ChaosK]

Then again Shinn's going down the exact path kira was.

[Jurojin]

No, while similar, there is a large difference.

1) Kira vs Athrun: Both were friends before, and they didn't want to kill each other at first, until friends died- then after that they calmed down and worked it out (after Strike and Aegis blew up).

2) Kira vs Shinn: Neither knew of the other, and all Shinn has known from Kira's actions is pain, and misery. (not that it was Kira's intention). Shinn only wants Kira's head on a pike, and has no interest in being friends with him.

Because of that difference, Shinn has a different path- it looks similar, but it's not.

[MeroTZ]

Originally posted by: Pwas
WTF Kiras got no purpose in GSD, hes no longer the main character. A matter of fact i think Kira was only in GSD to be defeated by Shinn to show Shinns power. Hes got no purpose or else he would be the main character instead of Shinn. As for your comment on Shinn not being able to take out Kira, thats bs because he just did like in this episode proves. Kira doesnt have the faith of the world on his hands and protecting his love ones because hello this isnt GS this is GSD and hes no longer the main character. So go cry some more under your bedsheets that kira got his ass kicked !

Kira is not the main character, he is the Hero.

Shinn may not end up being the main villain, but he's certainly on the right track.

If you compare the characters, Shinn has been on the way down since the start of the series. He's gone from standard soldier to hardened, cocky, battle butcher. Directly opposite of Kira.

And in this series, Kira has grown into more of a Hero character than before. We dont see any of the doubt, or the confusion of the first series. Kira is confident in his decisions, and is not worrying about whether what he is doing is right. He believes his actions are right, and acts on them.

Think of this like Star Wars where Shinn is Anakin. This is the story of his fall, and Kira is like Obi Wan. His purpose is to be the hero, to protect the people, save the girl, and find the treasure. Or something like that.

[ch4kz]

Originally posted by: Digitalgirl

Originally posted by: PTX-003C

Originally posted by: Mut@chi

Originally posted by: PTX-003C

Stupid fucking fight.

I hate this MAIN CHARACTER HAS TO WIN bullshit.

what are you talking about...kira just lost today....
main characters does lose

What the fuck?

it's true...the director announced long time ago that Kira is the main charactor in gsd

.....Well I dislike shinn...and I hate him even more after he started going insane...but he is a decent character..it was a bit of a BS fight though....but KIRA SEEMED to be in SEED mode the whole time...but what is confusing me is that don't they always show when someone goes seed?

I am not sure what to beleive about these long forgotten quotes above, Did the director actually announce that Kira was the main character of GSD. if so, everything makes so much more sense. Shinn beating Kira, sets Shinn up for a major fall in later episodes. If not Then Kira is the Hero or at least that is my opinion. I think Shinn is turning evil, he may even turn out to be a bad guy. If not how will the director get shinn out of the mental state he is in to make him out to be the Hero..or the MAIN character, which is questionable...because some people say that the director already announced Kira was the main character. Shinn I think is insane. I dislike Shinn a lot but that is not really clouding my judgment about anything. Shinn fought really really well, he out piloted Kira in that fight, but that was for a lot of reasons already mentioned.

For the record Kira is most definatley alive, this reminds of the time when athurna destroyed Kira's MS, it was already announced that Kira is piloting Strike Freedom...and about the explosion I am totoally lost on that., however Kira's fate probably won't be revealed for a couple of eps.

Athuran should most def come back to being normal after this last ep. This was def. a wake up call, but who knows.

About stellar agree with the sister brother thing, but nothing is really proven about that, They may have loved each other more.

Kira and Shinn took very different paths ins GS/GSD...they maty look similar but they are not. I almost agree that Shinn is jsut a male version of frey...but he may be the main character...

Personally I am hoping whoever I quoted about the director saying Kira is the main character is right...! Kira is my fav....

[cybercoin]

Say, is it me or is Mu regaining his memories?

He said something like

"Geez, why is this place always like this"

And then he seemed surprised he said that.

[Board of Command]

All I gotta say is

RAMIUS IS BACK!

[MeroTZ]

Originally posted by: cybercoin
Say, is it me or is Mu regaining his memories?

He said something like

"Geez, why is this place always like this"

And then he seemed surprised he said that.

It almost looked like he scared himself when he said that.

I think this is supposed to be subtle evidence that he is in fact Mu, and not a replica. Because up to this point, everything can still be explained if he's a clone. Him regaining memories, as shown here, of the AA, can not be explained if he's a clone.

[PSJ]

Originally posted by: ch4kz

Originally posted by: Digitalgirl

Originally posted by: PTX-003C

Originally posted by: Mut@chi

Originally posted by: PTX-003C

Stupid fucking fight.

I hate this MAIN CHARACTER HAS TO WIN bullshit.

what are you talking about...kira just lost today....
main characters does lose

What the fuck?

it's true...the director announced long time ago that Kira is the main charactor in gsd

.....Well I dislike shinn...and I hate him even more after he started going insane...but he is a decent character..it was a bit of a BS fight though....but KIRA SEEMED to be in SEED mode the whole time...but what is confusing me is that don't they always show when someone goes seed?

I am not sure what to beleive about these long forgotten quotes above, Did the director actually announce that Kira was the main character of GSD. if so, everything makes so much more sense. Shinn beating Kira, sets Shinn up for a major fall in later episodes. If not Then Kira is the Hero or at least that is my opinion. I think Shinn is turning evil, he may even turn out to be a bad guy. If not how will the director get shinn out of the mental state he is in to make him out to be the Hero..or the MAIN character, which is questionable...because some people say that the director already announced Kira was the main character. Shinn I think is insane. I dislike Shinn a lot but that is not really clouding my judgment about anything. Shinn fought really really well, he out piloted Kira in that fight, but that was for a lot of reasons already mentioned.

For the record Kira is most definatley alive, this reminds of the time when athurna destroyed Kira's MS, it was already announced that Kira is piloting Strike Freedom...and about the explosion I am totoally lost on that., however Kira's fate probably won't be revealed for a couple of eps.

Athuran should most def come back to being normal after this last ep. This was def. a wake up call, but who knows.

About stellar agree with the sister brother thing, but nothing is really proven about that, They may have loved each other more.

Kira and Shinn took very different paths ins GS/GSD...they maty look similar but they are not. I almost agree that Shinn is jsut a male version of frey...but he may be the main character...

Personally I am hoping whoever I quoted about the director saying Kira is the main character is right...! Kira is my fav....

both of them are main characters. it was the same in seed with asuran and kira they were both main characters.

[XwingRob]

Originally posted by: ch4kz
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.....Well I dislike shinn...and I hate him even more after he started going insane...but he is a decent character..it was a bit of a BS fight though....but KIRA SEEMED to be in SEED mode the whole time...but what is confusing me is that don't they always show when someone goes seed?

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No, I'm pretty sure they never showed Lacus going SEED. Even though she did have the eyes.

[ch4kz]

That does make more sense haveing them both as main characters....now I wonder who will end up coming into the Hero character, I know Kira came into being more of the Hero rather then Athuran in GS, but Athuran was still up there, but Kira is already a Hero now, will Shinn ever take that roll away from Kira, with Shinn's mentaltiy I doubt it. Shinn is going a bit mad...but you never know with this director, he throws a lot of twisits, plus uses a lot of plot scenes from other series. I think Kira will eventually come out on top, juat because he is the Hero and the 'ultimate coordinator'. I doubt Shinn will be able to take that roll away from Kira because of his mentality and the way the story is progressing. It is hinting more and more that Shinn is going evil, but almost similar things happend to Kira in GS, but I think Kira's reasons and reactions were always more just...you could say. Shinn's and Kira's path look simila r but they are not at all....Kira's defeat now sets Shinn up for a big defeat later on, but it may never happend...Shinn may evolve by some miracle...but i really don't want that to happen...

That what I thought about Seed...Kira was in SEED...my friend seems to think otherwise....he refused to beleive shinn can take Kira in seed...I do to, but it happend....even though there were a lot of distractions..
Now on to....bashing..the director should burn for makuing shinn beat KIRA!!!....

I hope shinn gets beaten really really bad...because I truly want Shinn to die soon....I wanna see him get smashed by strike freedom.(there no reason to reply to this bashing...because its just me stating my opinion and what I want to happend)...I know some other people would like Kira to stay dead...but w.e....SHINN SHOULD DIE...he is a maniac
The stuff above was what you should be replying about...that is actually as non biased as it get...just going along with what i have seen)

[XwingRob]

Originally posted by: ch4kz
That does make more sense haveing them both as main characters....now I wonder who will end up coming into the Hero character, I know Kira came into being more of the Hero rather then Athuran in GS, but Athuran was still up there, but Kira is already a Hero now, will Shinn ever take that roll away from Kira, with Shinn's mentaltiy I doubt it. Shinn is going a bit mad...but you never know with this director, he throws a lot of twisits, plus uses a lot of plot scenes from other series. I think Kira will eventually come out on top, juat because he is the Hero and the 'ultimate coordinator'. I doubt Shinn will be able to take that roll away from Kira because of his mentality and the way the story is progressing. It is hinting more and more that Shinn is going evil, but almost similar things happend to Kira in GS, but I think Kira's reasons and reactions were always more just...you could say. Shinn's and Kira's path look simila r but they are not at all....Kira's defeat now sets Shinn up for a big defeat later on, but it may never happend...Shinn may evolve by some miracle...but i really don't want that to happen...

That what I thought about Seed...Kira was in SEED...my friend seems to think otherwise....he refused to beleive shinn can take Kira in seed...I do to, but it happend....even though there were a lot of distractions..
Now on to....bashing..the director should burn for makuing shinn beat KIRA!!!....

I hope shinn gets beaten really really bad...because I truly want Shinn to die soon....I wanna see him get smashed by strike freedom.(there no reason to reply to this bashing...because its just me stating my opinion and what I want to happend)...I know some other people would like Kira to stay dead...but w.e....SHINN SHOULD DIE...he is a maniac
The stuff above was what you should be replying about...that is actually as non biased as it get...just going along with what i have seen)

Shinn shouldn't die. He should have a chance to see the good way of doing things. If he continues to be crazy killing bastard, then he should get sabered in the final episode. Heh.
As for Shinn beating Kira, who cares really? We know Kira isn't dead, and he is gonna get some uber mobile suit now. Though I don't understand why everyone thinking Shinn is the greatest pilot ever, he had every possible advantage(he was prepared, Kira was watching Archangel, etc.) and had a mobile suit that took advantage of Kira's non-willing to kill. Though I'm not saying Shinn is a bad pilot by any means.

CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?!!?!?!?!oneonequestionmark?!?!!?!?!

[antoine]

there is more than 1 main character in gsd, and if you can't understand that, deal with it or cry.

Kira took on his main character role after he was dragged into the war, and there would be no reason for him to be a main character otherwise.

Shinn has made his greatest accomplishment, but as many others have said, NOW WHAT?

[XwingRob]

NOW WHAT? is a very good question indeed.
I'm curious how there gonna wrap everything up in the next 16 episodes..

[ch4kz]

Antione...if you havent read my post...I SAID i understoond there were two main characters...I am saying which one will become the HERO character in the end...MAIN AND HERO ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS....blahh now what...we will just have to wait an see. We all know that if certain stuff happends people will start ranting off again, Like people have and i have a bit...anyway you asked the most logical question in this topic...yet ^_^

Xwingrob...didn't I say there was no point in replying to my bashing...Its jsut what I want to happend in my dreams...see shinn die. ...~_^...but really I don;'t actually hate shinn I jsut don't agree with what the director did, to many holes...but it doesn't matter what is done is done, we jsut got to wait and find out. i am trying to get along, I haven't made any crude remarks about anything except int eh bashing part...wich i told people to ingore.

I my last post the 1st parqraph was the my true response...the bashing was jsut to let out some stress(second paragraph.

I still think Shinn may go evil. I am not saying its true, I am just saying it is a possiblity....

If kira does end up dead which i highly doubt...i am 100 percent sure kira will remain alive, Mwu may take strike freedom...blahh that won't happend so you can almsot forgot i said it, I just had to say it.

[XwingRob]

Originally posted by: ch4kz


Xwingrob...didn't I say there was no point in replying to my bashing...Its jsut what I want to happend in my dreams...see shinn die. ...~_^...but really I don;'t actually hate shinn I jsut don't agree with what the director did, to many holes...but it doesn't matter what is done is done, we jsut got to wait and find out. i am trying to get along, I haven't made any crude remarks about anything except int eh bashing part...wich i told people to ingore.

Hmm, I guess you did say it. My bad.

[Dannynonsense]

the battle between kira and shinn is over for now the next battle is the smacking that asuran is gonna give shinn. but on to another note its clear that shinn is most likely gonna be the bad guy i doubt he will join the AA its makes no sense for him to join that ship and i doubt they can change him in these last 16 episodes. finally Shinn can not and will never be able to defeat kira the supreme mobile suit pilot his only rival is asuran

[antoine]

well i was referring to everyone as a whole, but my apologies.