I swear, Kira is such a pussy. FUCKING KILL ALREADY.
Kira could've EASILY ended the fight right when decapitated Impulse, yet he decided to dick around and get distracted by stupid shit and not go for critical hits.
I swear, Kira is such a pussy. FUCKING KILL ALREADY.
Kira could've EASILY ended the fight right when decapitated Impulse, yet he decided to dick around and get distracted by stupid shit and not go for critical hits.
Stop spoiling, this sin't a spoiler thread fuckin retard go to the sticky topic and spoil tehre not here.Originally posted by: PTX-003C
that happened just to show shinn can get the core and legs saperated...Originally posted by: Marks
KIRA DID AIM TO KILL! He tried to slize the center (cockpit area) of Impulse open, REMEMBER?!?!?
that's all..
wow wow wow calm down dudeOriginally posted by: Madell
Stop spoiling, this sin't a spoiler thread fuckin retard go to the sticky topic and spoil tehre not here.Originally posted by: PTX-003C
that happened just to show shinn can get the core and legs saperated...Originally posted by: Marks
KIRA DID AIM TO KILL! He tried to slize the center (cockpit area) of Impulse open, REMEMBER?!?!?
that's all..
its already written on the topic (may contain spoilerS)
and anyway
can anyone tell me where did the big explosion came from is it from the archangel or from NJC in Freedom
If it was the NJC, shouldnt Shinn be dead by now? He was right in the face of a nuclear explosion, all he got was a few melted parts
I just noticed this, Freedom NEVER exploded. The only explosion was from the Tannhauser shot. I know someone mentioned something about 2 explosions, there weren't. And someone else mentioned why didn't freedom just go under water, I think he was about too, but was waiting for Archangel to go under completely first. By then Shinn had thrown the Beam Boomerang at him which knocked him off balance before the sword attack. I would guess he just simply didn't think to shut off his thrusters and let gravity take him under water.
I'm surprised that noone has mentioned this yet, but notice the location of Shinn's final attack. If I had to guess I would think that Kira manages to get somewhere with Freedom and it is repaired into Strike Freedom now. The damage from the Sword was right where the torso cannon will be on Strike Freedom. Just to throw out a name, maybe he makes it to the Kingdom of Scandinavia.
Also I believe that the Nuetron Jammer Cancellor was behind the cockpit. It would make sense to go there, that way the chances of it getting captured by the enemy if they just took out the cockpit would be minimal. Remember when Freedom was built EAF didn't have the NJC yet, so it would make sense that if they wanted to capture the unit by just killing the pilot that they make it nearly impossle to take out without hitting the NJC as well. EDIT: The NJC blowing up wouldn't cause a nuclear explosion, it would do the opposite. Remember there are Nuetron Jammers all over Earth. As soon as the NJC is taking out Nuclear power no longer works. Remember ZAFT did that specifically so EAF couldn't use nukes.
Also note there isn't a great deal of rubble on the surface of the water. It seems to me that Freedom just lost some armor type stuff.
Before I really get into my bit on the fight just a NOTE: Kira did not aim for the cockpit. If you go frame by frame you can see he was aiming for the legs (I think it would reduce Impulse's manuverability because there are some thrusters in the legs), it's just that when Shinn seperated it made it look like he was going for the cockpit because his swing went right under it.
Personally I thought it was a really good battle. While I am an ardent Shinn-hater, I'm not a Kira-lover. It may seem that way because most of the dabates around them is Kira vs Shinn or Shinn vs Kira. Personally my favorite character is Dearkka. Anyways back to the fight, using his shield to deflect a blast was pretty smart I would have never seen that coming. Also just for bragging rights, Here, the second post I made after Guardian posted the picture of Freedom and Impulse I made a comment about launching parts at Kira while ordering new ones from the ship. I do agree though that it made no sense for Kira to "forget" to use his rail guns or the wing guns.
Just out of curiousity (I know noone know) I wonder how many of each Flyer the Minerva has. I would think storage space would be limited. I can see them have 2 of each just in case, but if that is the case then Impluse would be out of action now. Shinn trashed 2 Force Sillouettes and 2 Chest Flyers. He could probably get away with going with the Sword of the Blast Sillouettes, but they would have to take the time to repair a chest flyer. Considering they haven't really done any reapair on ANY other unit on board they don't seem to have the time.
Another thing, it is amazing how much restraint the Archangel showed. Purposely not hitting anything. I know they thought that is what ZAFT wanted, but still that had to be difficult.
Oh, and someone asked about when Talia and Murrue met, Murrue was the head technician working on repairing the Minerva when it was in Orb.
EDIT 2: It's nice that we will finally see the Mass Produced Gouf's next episode!
I hold nothing but utter dissapointment for this episode. I think that the makers are starting to rush this series.
Really liked that dodge that the AA did against the Minerva.
First off, Kira acted like this was his first time in battle or something. The only other time that he was this stupid was when he got Fllay killed and killed Nicol. The only problem Kira had was worrying about the AA but come on. Kira does have faith in the AA and everyone aboard so he should never be that worried about it. He is also not so dumb to the point where he doesn't focus his full attention on the obstacle that is keeping him from his objective at that moment in time. I am not saying this cause I 'm a Kira fan(I accually like Asuran,Lacus and Lunamaria the best), I'm saying this cause this isn't right. Kira basically only tried to shoot him that entire battle. Where was that unholy beam saber skill that Kira is always using. Even if Shinn knew whare Kira was aiming, he and the Impulse can't keep up with that. Kira didn't even try his trademark kick that he does to everyone. When Kira returns with his new SF he better kick Shinn one good time.
Also something that pissed me off. The Minerva was facing the oppisite direction of Shinn. This means it would take maybe about a minute for Shinn to combine new segments of his gundam. This would give Kira ample time to regain control of his gundam, realize that Shinn's gundam came in segment,s and cut up the core splendor or rail gun the incoming segments, but aparently Shinn can slow down time and combine in what seems like an instant to everyone else.
Now Freedom I believe did explode, but not all of it. I think that maybe the legs and some other parts exploded and Kira escaped with the the remaining cocpit and thrusters into the ocean. But then that wouldn't explain why the Impulse was burned to a crisp and the explosion that huge. Maybe something powerful just blew up cause lets face it, if it was a nuclear explosion then I don't think that anyone would be living right now.
As a side note Kira has yet pilot better than he did while he was in the desert.
that explodsion was indead freedom's, but for creating a nuclear fusion, it takes way more energy to start...so that little sword poke from shinn definitely won't creat a nuclear explodsion....
It may contain spoilers for that ep if you haven't seen this ep youwould be spoiled but don't say anything about other eps that haven't aired yet in a ep discussion thread please
I ment spoilers in general because people (including me) usualy start to talk about the upcoming episodes
Actually, while watching frame by frame, I'm not completely convinced it was from Freedom. If you watch from when the explosion starts you'll see a red line trailing back to the Minerva that fades, as their Tannhauser (sp?) would do, and when their ship first enters the scene it is the Tannhauser front that is originally facing the explosion before it QUICKLY gets turned to the side. Now I'm not sure where the Freedom & Impulse were in coorilation to the Minerva, but I sincerely doubt they would fire the Tannhauser almost direclty at those two. I won't say it wasn't the Freedom, but after watching that I'm rather confused... and hopeful!Originally posted by: PTX-003C
that explodsion was indead freedom's, but for creating a nuclear fusion, it takes way more energy to start...so that little sword poke from shinn definitely won't creat a nuclear explodsion....
Go Kira.
You are indeed correct. Kira aimed for the legs. I'm also very saddened that Kira didn't use the wing cannons or rail guns. Why not use your last wing cannon or right rail gun on Shinn's final approach? That's all I keep on thinking.Originally posted by: Curium
Before I really get into my bit on the fight just a NOTE: Kira did not aim for the cockpit. If you go frame by frame you can see he was aiming for the legs (I think it would reduce Impulse's manuverability because there are some thrusters in the legs), it's just that when Shinn seperated it made it look like he was going for the cockpit because his swing went right under it.
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Well the one taht was broken could explode then [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
You are indeed correct. Kira aimed for the legs. I'm also very saddened that Kira didn't use the wing cannons or rail guns. Why not use your last wing cannon or right rail gun on Shinn's final approach? That's all I keep on thinking.
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yep its true the chairman is just using shinn thats why put him in impluse and wanted him to defeat kira so badly but in kira's defeat its clear that he never was trying to kill shin or disable him at first he was just trying to buy time for archangel to escape to the sea. shinn's victory is a hollow one since kira didnt aim at the cockpit or use the himat system which is where freedoms true power lie's. but still he won which make's the battle strike freedom vs destiny ohh so much better since kira's gonna hand it to him. another thing how impulse managed to make it through that explosion was cheap it should at least have sent him flying.
Oh, but is there any proof that Kira will be the one who gets Strike Freedom? He might have died.
KIRA should have used the HImat system and use the whole 5 beams from freedom to shoot both hands both legs and the head of impulse leaving the cokpit alone, i feel sad i was so angry to see this episode because im so pro in kira and i hate shin so much because he is being such a dickhead and an arrogant person to asuran which is his senior, and im wondering how more arrogant can shin be after defeating freedom. and i think the big explosion in the end of 34 came from nowhere its just the explosion of the laser hitting the sea, because if the NJC explode shin would be in the sea like stellar in the river, and kira will be "the sea" .
i hope Infinite justice or strike freedom gonna kick destiny's ass
can somone tell me who will be the ultimate enemy in GSD ?
You know considering how stupid I found the majority of this episode. (all notes on the battles were posted earlier in this thread) What if Kira used the blast to his advantage to make Shinn believe he had killed Kira. Perhaps taking the sword in a nonvital area of the freedom and detonating say the railguns and wing cannons by overloading them in Shinn's face to make a explosion to hide his escape.
Considering they removed his ability to fight I don't see it as impossible for him to cause a explosion as a smoke screen so he could drop into the ocean and reach the archangel.
hmm when you stop to think about it the explosion had to be from the reactor since it was so large and impulse was burnt to a crisp that explsion did come from freedom because asuran yelled out kira right after it. but in any case freedom's cockpit is in its chest so its possible after realizing the danger he was in kira escaped but this battle in a sense was pure bullshit its like something from a dream sequence because of the way everthing happend and if you think about its the same exact thing that happen in endless waltz with quattre, duo and trowa when they were fighting the serpents on earth. all in all i think the real point of this episode was not the battle but mwu starting to regain his memory, dullandal is minipulating shinn, shinn is growing as a pilot, and asuran see's the errors of his way, and zaft is mostly likely the final enemy.
You peeps out there, there's no reason at all that you should hate Shinn. The writers made it in purpose that we should feel like hating him, perhaps becoz we already convinced ourselves that Kira and friends are the "good guys". I understand Shinn's situation and I respect him. Anyway, damn, Kira lost to Shinn? WTF? hahahahaha, Some guy mentioned that Shinn could never match up to Kira? That's completely a stupid opinion at all. So what if he's the "ultimate coordinator", Its true that it was mentioned in GS, but what was not mentioned was how exactly he was "ultimate". Was he ultimate in sports? Music? of In battle? or in everything? So being "ultimate" is irrelevant on determining who is better among the two. It's right that they're MS have different unique abilities, and they just used everything they got in the battle, (maybe not Kira) but I think Shinn has the potential to beat Kira to his fullest. (someday)
The only thing I hate about the plot is when someone dies in an absurd way, so unexplainable that they still survive in the end, is a very cheesy and lame way to continue the story with the same characters.
I know that in GSD laws of physics do not exactly apply, but NUCLEAR REACTORS DO NOT EXPLODE! nuclear reactor is not nuclear missile - it's very hard to make nuclear reactor explode, you must use fuel as in nuclear missile and that can't be done from outside of the reactor, only thing that damaged nuclear reactor can do is leak radiation. even if you meltdown the reactor, it won't explode.
anyway. I do not hate kira and I do not hate shinn, is there something wrong with me?
I think Dullindals goal is to come out looking like a hero to everyone, that he is greedy as hell and that he doesn't want anyone else taking credit for rescuing everyone from war... Like how he altered the camera showing the fight against the Destroyer.
Trying to take out the real Lacus having a fake Lacus doing everything he tells her to. and then with a fake operation try to save the earth from being taken out by the comet, I think that was his plans from the beginning.
And the fact that Dullindal knew Lau ru kruz isn't good either, that alone talks in favor of him being a nut-case.
Anyway, did anyone notice the fact that even after bing hit by Impulse sword, Kira still aimed his sword at the head in the end? Maybe that implies that Kira didn't try to save his own life because he had a plan of escpaing, maybe like emergancy exit and selfdetonation to make it look like death?
Telemari, maybe it isn't wrong, only understanding...
Anyhow, I have a hard time not hating Shinn because he is so inexperienced and act out of hatred and not out of logic trying to do the right thing as Kira. Kira has lost so many people close to him and is still strong enough to stand up and do the right thing because he believes in everyones right to life.
PS. I didn't get an answer to my question.... Is there any proof what-so-ever that Kira will be the one piloting Strike Freedom? Maybe Shinn will get a new unit.
yeah, maybe freedom have some kind of lifeboat. it's easy with lifeboats in scifi - they aren't here until you need them (as with Dominion)
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